Twitch now scanning VODs for copyrighted content

#61

Jynxii

-2 Frags – +

They are so fucking dumb

#62

hooky

6 Frags – +

MunchFor real though, copyright law has been a complete joke for a long time. Hope this causes people with influence to actually do something about it.

nothing will happen, it's actually going to get worse

[quote=Munch]For real though, copyright law has been a complete joke for a long time. Hope this causes people with influence to actually do something about it.[/quote]
nothing will happen, it's actually going to get worse

#63

wpminnows

6 Frags – +

are hitbox streams on the sidebar

#64

phorofor

4 Frags – +

part of my VODs are muted when i know i wasn't even listening to any music at all. it seems like if copyrighted music is played for 1 minute, a huge chunk is muted

#65

Zoltan

20 Frags – +

Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Nobody likes that this has happened. I remember the meeting that it was announced at... the entire room was silent... all 140+ of us.
[6:53:50 PM] Geoff: really?
[6:53:53 PM] Geoff: damn
[6:54:03 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Yes. We hate that we have to do this. But we can't afford getting sued.
[6:54:06 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): It'd shut us down.

#66

hooky

2 Frags – +

phoroforpart of my VODs are muted when i know i wasn't even listening to any music at all. it seems like if copyrighted music is played for 1 minute, a huge chunk is muted

That's what they said. It's terrible. The whole idea of muting any part of the stream is terrible.

But they pretty much had to do this. I believe Youtube has deals worked out with record labels to give them all ad revenue for copyrighted songs in videos. Twitch most likely doesn't.

[quote=phorofor]part of my VODs are muted when i know i wasn't even listening to any music at all. it seems like if copyrighted music is played for 1 minute, a huge chunk is muted[/quote]
That's what they said. It's terrible. The whole idea of muting any part of the stream is terrible.

But they pretty much had to do this. I believe Youtube has deals worked out with record labels to give them all ad revenue for copyrighted songs in videos. Twitch most likely doesn't.

#67

hooky

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ZoltanBryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Nobody likes that this has happened. I remember the meeting that it was announced at... the entire room was silent... all 140+ of us.
[6:53:50 PM] Geoff: really?
[6:53:53 PM] Geoff: damn
[6:54:03 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Yes. We hate that we have to do this. But we can't afford getting sued.
[6:54:06 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): It'd shut us down.

but of course, Twitch is 150% evil. This means nothing.

[quote=Zoltan]Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Nobody likes that this has happened. I remember the meeting that it was announced at... the entire room was silent... all 140+ of us.
[6:53:50 PM] Geoff: really?
[6:53:53 PM] Geoff: damn
[6:54:03 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Yes. We hate that we have to do this. But we can't afford getting sued.
[6:54:06 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): It'd shut us down.[/quote]
but of course, Twitch is 150% evil. This means nothing.

#68

_Kermit

3 Frags – +

From the Audible Magic site: "Automatic Content Recognition for unparalleled digital media experiences"

Sure.

From the Audible Magic site: "Automatic Content Recognition for unparalleled digital media experiences"

Sure.

#69

BobbyTables

-3 Frags – +

yah so instead of whining about it there's things you can do.

maybe like this:
!songlist / !playlist
displays - spotify url / lastfm thing
Not the end of the world.

yah so instead of whining about it there's things you can do.

maybe like this:
!songlist / !playlist
displays - spotify url / lastfm thing
Not the end of the world.

#70

hooky

5 Frags – +

BobbyTablesyah so instead of whining about it there's things you can do.

maybe like this:
!songlist / !playlist
displays - spotify url / lastfm thing
Not the end of the world.

I don't know if this is what you're trying to suggest, but just giving credit isn't enough.

If you're saying to just give people a playlist, what's the point?

[quote=BobbyTables]yah so instead of whining about it there's things you can do.

maybe like this:
!songlist / !playlist
displays - spotify url / lastfm thing
Not the end of the world.[/quote]
I don't know if this is what you're trying to suggest, but just giving credit isn't enough.

If you're saying to just give people a playlist, what's the point?

#71

Irishhhh

3 Frags – +

So it will only mute vods and not live streams?

#72

BobbyTables

-11 Frags – +

hookyBobbyTablesyah so instead of whining about it there's things you can do.

maybe like this:
!songlist / !playlist
displays - spotify url / lastfm thing
Not the end of the world.I don't know if this is what you're trying to suggest, but just giving credit isn't enough.

If you're saying to just give people a playlist, what's the point?

well yes, basically give a playlist. If you need music that badly.

[quote=hooky][quote=BobbyTables]yah so instead of whining about it there's things you can do.

maybe like this:
!songlist / !playlist
displays - spotify url / lastfm thing
Not the end of the world.[/quote]
I don't know if this is what you're trying to suggest, but just giving credit isn't enough.

If you're saying to just give people a playlist, what's the point?[/quote]

well yes, basically give a playlist. If you need music that badly.

#73

Zoltan

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hookyZoltanBryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Nobody likes that this has happened. I remember the meeting that it was announced at... the entire room was silent... all 140+ of us.
[6:53:50 PM] Geoff: really?
[6:53:53 PM] Geoff: damn
[6:54:03 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Yes. We hate that we have to do this. But we can't afford getting sued.
[6:54:06 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): It'd shut us down.but of course, Twitch is 150% evil. This means nothing.

Right, Twitch is an evil company selling out to big daddy corporate.

[quote=hooky][quote=Zoltan]Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Nobody likes that this has happened. I remember the meeting that it was announced at... the entire room was silent... all 140+ of us.
[6:53:50 PM] Geoff: really?
[6:53:53 PM] Geoff: damn
[6:54:03 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Yes. We hate that we have to do this. But we can't afford getting sued.
[6:54:06 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): It'd shut us down.[/quote]
but of course, Twitch is 150% evil. This means nothing.[/quote]

Right, Twitch is an evil company selling out to big daddy corporate.

#74

botmode

5 Frags – +

how do you play music (through say spotify web player) without it playing through your stream
i want to play music but i don't want to have to deal with this :(

#75

DavidTheWin

0 Frags – +

botmodehow do you play music (through say spotify web player) without it playing through your stream
i want to play music but i don't want to have to deal with this :(

Play it on your phone or something

[quote=botmode]how do you play music (through say spotify web player) without it playing through your stream
i want to play music but i don't want to have to deal with this :([/quote]

Play it on your phone or something

#76

hooky

-4 Frags – +

ZoltanRight, Twitch is an evil company selling out to big daddy corporate.

I don't know if you know this or not, but that was sarcasm

[quote=Zoltan]
Right, Twitch is an evil company selling out to big daddy corporate.[/quote]
[size=10]I don't know if you know this or not, but that was sarcasm[/size]

#77

Deathy

-5 Frags – +

botmodehow do you play music (through say spotify web player) without it playing through your stream
i want to play music but i don't want to have to deal with this :(

Same

[quote=botmode]how do you play music (through say spotify web player) without it playing through your stream
i want to play music but i don't want to have to deal with this :([/quote]

Same

#78

Zoltan

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hookyZoltanhookyZoltanBryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Nobody likes that this has happened. I remember the meeting that it was announced at... the entire room was silent... all 140+ of us.
[6:53:50 PM] Geoff: really?
[6:53:53 PM] Geoff: damn
[6:54:03 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Yes. We hate that we have to do this. But we can't afford getting sued.
[6:54:06 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): It'd shut us down.but of course, Twitch is 150% evil. This means nothing.
Right, Twitch is an evil company selling out to big daddy corporate.I don't know if you know this or not, but that was sarcasm

I was trying to play along with your sarcasm.

[quote=hooky][quote=Zoltan][quote=hooky][quote=Zoltan]Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Nobody likes that this has happened. I remember the meeting that it was announced at... the entire room was silent... all 140+ of us.
[6:53:50 PM] Geoff: really?
[6:53:53 PM] Geoff: damn
[6:54:03 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Yes. We hate that we have to do this. But we can't afford getting sued.
[6:54:06 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): It'd shut us down.[/quote]
but of course, Twitch is 150% evil. This means nothing.[/quote]

Right, Twitch is an evil company selling out to big daddy corporate.[/quote]
[size=10]I don't know if you know this or not, but that was sarcasm[/size][/quote]

I was trying to play along with your sarcasm.

#79

nich

0 Frags – +

Guys hold up this might not be a bad thing

Google just spent 1 billion dollars to kill competition
Maybe they are fucking stupid after all

Guys hold up this might not be a bad thing

Google just spent 1 billion dollars to kill competition
Maybe they are fucking stupid after all

#80

hooky

2 Frags – +

ZoltanI was trying to play along with your sarcasm.

oh ok. I blame the internet for this misunderstanding.

[quote=Zoltan]
I was trying to play along with your sarcasm.[/quote]
oh ok. I blame the internet for this misunderstanding.

#81

Zoltan

-4 Frags – +

hookyZoltanhookyZoltanhookyZoltanBryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Nobody likes that this has happened. I remember the meeting that it was announced at... the entire room was silent... all 140+ of us.
[6:53:50 PM] Geoff: really?
[6:53:53 PM] Geoff: damn
[6:54:03 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Yes. We hate that we have to do this. But we can't afford getting sued.
[6:54:06 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): It'd shut us down.but of course, Twitch is 150% evil. This means nothing.
Right, Twitch is an evil company selling out to big daddy corporate.I don't know if you know this or not, but that was sarcasm
I was trying to play along with your sarcasm.oh ok. I blame the internet for this misunderstanding.

It's ok bae <3

[quote=hooky][quote=Zoltan][quote=hooky][quote=Zoltan][quote=hooky][quote=Zoltan]Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Nobody likes that this has happened. I remember the meeting that it was announced at... the entire room was silent... all 140+ of us.
[6:53:50 PM] Geoff: really?
[6:53:53 PM] Geoff: damn
[6:54:03 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): Yes. We hate that we have to do this. But we can't afford getting sued.
[6:54:06 PM] Bryan Veloso (Avalonstar): It'd shut us down.[/quote]
but of course, Twitch is 150% evil. This means nothing.[/quote]

Right, Twitch is an evil company selling out to big daddy corporate.[/quote]
[size=10]I don't know if you know this or not, but that was sarcasm[/size][/quote]

I was trying to play along with your sarcasm.[/quote]
oh ok. I blame the internet for this misunderstanding.[/quote]

It's ok bae <3

#82

turtsmcgurts

4 Frags – +

botmodehow do you play music (through say spotify web player) without it playing through your stream
i want to play music but i don't want to have to deal with this :(

there's a software called VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) that can do this, but in my experience it makes the quality awful. your best bet is to get a hardware mixer I think.

skimming through this video it sounds like he's making it so skype/teamspeak aren't audible to the stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMyiv7DRu3Q

[quote=botmode]how do you play music (through say spotify web player) without it playing through your stream
i want to play music but i don't want to have to deal with this :([/quote]

there's a software called VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) that can do this, but in my experience it makes the quality awful. your best bet is to get a hardware mixer I think.

skimming through this video it sounds like he's making it so skype/teamspeak aren't audible to the stream.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMyiv7DRu3Q[/youtube]

#83

Getawhale

2 Frags – +

turtsmcgurtsbotmodehow do you play music (through say spotify web player) without it playing through your stream
i want to play music but i don't want to have to deal with this :(
there's a software called VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) that can do this, but in my experience it makes the quality awful. your best bet is to get a hardware mixer though.

I came to write about VAC. If you know what you're doing, it can be okay; I used this for the first two episodes of my Whale Calls show and it's great. Honestly took a while to understand though. My experience is that it can be finnicky when it comes to actually getting your virtual streams going (may need to play with different buffers etc) but once they're working fine with sufficient buffers, your quality is unaffected. You could easily listen to music without streaming it and it'd sound great, 44.1 or 48KHz quality.

An okay tutorial is here and the software itself has a Help file with examples (scroll down to the end of the page)

EDIT: Also the stealth edited video added in the post above

[quote=turtsmcgurts][quote=botmode]how do you play music (through say spotify web player) without it playing through your stream
i want to play music but i don't want to have to deal with this :([/quote]

there's a software called VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) that can do this, but in my experience it makes the quality awful. your best bet is to get a hardware mixer though.[/quote]

I came to write about VAC. If you know what you're doing, it can be okay; I used this for the first two episodes of my Whale Calls show and it's great. Honestly took a while to understand though. My experience is that it can be finnicky when it comes to actually getting your virtual streams going (may need to play with different buffers etc) but once they're working fine with sufficient buffers, your quality is unaffected. You could easily listen to music without streaming it and it'd sound great, 44.1 or 48KHz quality.

An okay tutorial is [url=https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/how-to-exclude-any-audio-using-vac.3202/]here[/url] and the software itself has a Help file with examples (scroll down to the end of the page)

EDIT: Also the stealth edited video added in the post above

#84

boppet

1 Frags – +

i for one welcome our google overlords

#85

AndKenneth

2 Frags – +

Yeah it essentially means that it will force casting teams to do post produced videos instead of using the youtube uploader, there's just too much that can go wrong if it does a false positive. It's a huge pain. That being said, it will probably force me to make my youtube vods a little bit nicer but now it's no longer a job I can do between classes at uni.

It's just annoying.

Yeah it essentially means that it will force casting teams to do post produced videos instead of using the youtube uploader, there's just too much that can go wrong if it does a false positive. It's a huge pain. That being said, it will probably force me to make my youtube vods a little bit nicer but now it's no longer a job I can do between classes at uni.

It's just annoying.

#86

Getawhale

5 Frags – +

dashnerAlso, how accurate is the flagging? Apparently it's picking up in-game soundtracks and other bizarre false positives.

Well I can tell you that the VODs of my Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 speedruns are fuckin done, due to in-game soundtrack. So much for that.

[quote=dashner]Also, how accurate is the flagging? Apparently it's picking up in-game soundtracks and other bizarre false positives.[/quote]

Well I can tell you that the VODs of my Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 speedruns are fuckin done, due to in-game soundtrack. So much for that.

#87

Cocoa

3 Frags – +

Along with this recent bullshit, BetterTTV seems to not be working as well.

#88

rQwire

3 Frags – +

Hey guys! Losing hope on Twitch? Want to lose even more hope? Well this is your lucky day because Twitch will also disable VODs and force every channel to have highlights only, with a maximum time of 2 hours! 2 WHOLE HOURS! What a deal!

http://blog.twitch.tv/2014/08/update-changes-to-vods-on-twitch/

Hey guys! Losing hope on Twitch? Want to lose even more hope? Well this is your lucky day because Twitch will also disable VODs and force every channel to have highlights only, with a maximum time of 2 hours! 2 WHOLE HOURS! What a deal!

http://blog.twitch.tv/2014/08/update-changes-to-vods-on-twitch/

#89

crafty

3 Frags – +

poop

#90

vrisk

3 Frags – +

If you guys were actually thinking off switching of Twitch, livegaming.tv would be a good choice, they have good admins and just recently hosted a tf2 tournament, also sub buttons and quality options for everyone.

It's gonna take a lot more to make me stop using Twitch though.

If you guys were actually thinking off switching of Twitch, livegaming.tv would be a good choice, they have good admins and just recently hosted a tf2 tournament, also sub buttons and quality options for everyone.

It's gonna take a lot more to make me stop using Twitch though.