No one is better than me and this video explains why.
this is why we have LAN finals
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"I swear its 100% obvious, but just incase its not let me bribe you with 100$. Also, pls ban me because i will be a martyr."
sounds like a fustrated 12 year old trying to get his way.
"I swear its 100% obvious, but just incase its not let me bribe you with 100$. Also, pls ban me because i will be a martyr."
sounds like a fustrated 12 year old trying to get his way.
sounds like a fustrated 12 year old trying to get his way.
in his newest video he says he didnt get any sleep because he went through all of marisa's demos
in his newest video he says he didnt get any sleep because he went through all of marisa's demos
Just an fyi, the guy called teapot posting in that thread is a filthy imposter.
Just an fyi, the guy called teapot posting in that thread is a filthy imposter.
neroHacked for 3 days and knows everything there is to know about how hacks work? What a joke, I hacked for like a year and it takes way more than 3 days to understand hacks to the point of being able to say without a doubt someone hacked. She clearly doesn't hack imo. All of those flicks after the shots are 100% natural things snipers do. The only thing you could possibly accuse her of is triggerbotting which is easily detectable now by using the thing that shows what buttons someones clicking in their demos. Wait for gxl and stop these damn witch hunts cause they're useless.
Admission of guilt acquired. Contacting UGC/ESEA admins. *dickface*
[quote=nero]Hacked for 3 days and knows everything there is to know about how hacks work? What a joke, [b]I hacked for like a year[/b] and it takes way more than 3 days to understand hacks to the point of being able to say without a doubt someone hacked. She clearly doesn't hack imo. All of those flicks after the shots are 100% natural things snipers do. The only thing you could possibly accuse her of is triggerbotting which is easily detectable now by using the thing that shows what buttons someones clicking in their demos. Wait for gxl and stop these damn witch hunts cause they're useless.[/quote]
Admission of guilt acquired. Contacting UGC/ESEA admins. *dickface*
Admission of guilt acquired. Contacting UGC/ESEA admins. *dickface*
Sounds like Axio made up his mind at the start of the second half of their match, let it justify his fuck-ups and now can't let it go.
Also he's nowhere near funny enough for me to want to agree with him. ):
Sounds like Axio made up his mind at the start of the second half of their match, let it justify his fuck-ups and now can't let it go.
Also he's nowhere near funny enough for me to want to agree with him. ):
Also he's nowhere near funny enough for me to want to agree with him. ):
I needed some good TF2 drama to read while bored at work.
While we're on the topic, can we talk about how lack luster afla's sniping has been all season, and then last night with the 16-0 reputation on the line, he goes nuts? I need to make a video of me failing at CSGO real quick with one of alfa's shots, upload should be up soon.
I needed some good TF2 drama to read while bored at work.
While we're on the topic, can we talk about how lack luster afla's sniping has been all season, and then last night with the 16-0 reputation on the line, he goes nuts? I need to make a video of me failing at CSGO real quick with one of alfa's shots, upload should be up soon.
While we're on the topic, can we talk about how lack luster afla's sniping has been all season, and then last night with the 16-0 reputation on the line, he goes nuts? I need to make a video of me failing at CSGO real quick with one of alfa's shots, upload should be up soon.
WithADanceNumber"I swear its 100% obvious, but just incase its not let me bribe you with 100$. Also, pls ban me because i will be a martyr."
sounds like a fustrated 12 year old trying to get his way.
Good way of making $100 though.
Ban M4risa
Get $100
Ban Axio
Unban M4risa
[quote=WithADanceNumber]"I swear its 100% obvious, but just incase its not let me bribe you with 100$. Also, pls ban me because i will be a martyr."
sounds like a fustrated 12 year old trying to get his way.[/quote]
Good way of making $100 though.
Ban M4risa
Get $100
Ban Axio
Unban M4risa
sounds like a fustrated 12 year old trying to get his way.[/quote]
Good way of making $100 though.
Ban M4risa
Get $100
Ban Axio
Unban M4risa
"I do do just as good without hacks as I do with them"
why even hack then
"I do do just as good without hacks as I do with them"
why even hack then
why even hack then
This is definitely one of the shittiest hackusation videos I've seen. The horrible comparisons between what an actual hacker looks like and what marisa did are not even close. The wireframe part where it looked like she was tracking the medic through the wall is also totally stupid. Slowly peeking and moving your mouse like that is totally normal (and smart), yet just because a medic happened to be running that way, she's cheating?
Yeah, some of her twitch shots aren't totally clean as other snipers in terms of mouse movement, but that doesn't mean that one is cheating at all. Some people twitch differently, and that's just how it is. In fact, I've adapted a similar twitch style from Unreal Tournament 2004 (though I really can't snipe for shit in TF2, lol).
Marisa will do just fine at GXL, which should put this to rest.
This is definitely one of the shittiest hackusation videos I've seen. The horrible comparisons between what an actual hacker looks like and what marisa did are not even close. The wireframe part where it looked like she was tracking the medic through the wall is also totally stupid. Slowly peeking and moving your mouse like that is totally normal (and smart), yet just because a medic happened to be running that way, she's cheating?
Yeah, some of her twitch shots aren't totally clean as other snipers in terms of mouse movement, but that doesn't mean that one is cheating at all. Some people twitch differently, and that's just how it is. In fact, I've adapted a similar twitch style from Unreal Tournament 2004 (though I really can't snipe for shit in TF2, lol).
Marisa will do just fine at GXL, which should put this to rest.
Yeah, some of her twitch shots aren't totally clean as other snipers in terms of mouse movement, but that doesn't mean that one is cheating at all. Some people twitch differently, and that's just how it is. In fact, I've adapted a similar twitch style from Unreal Tournament 2004 (though I really can't snipe for shit in TF2, lol).
Marisa will do just fine at GXL, which should put this to rest.
on the ugc thread he wrongly accused a well known cs player of using hacks after seeing a vid linked to him by harbleu... in the video it even says the footage was taken from a lan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_GvqkHmAaU
Looks like all those 3 days of hacking experience and his self proclaimed ability to spot a hacker a mile away 100% have failed here gents
on the ugc thread he wrongly accused a well known cs player of using hacks after seeing a vid linked to him by harbleu... in the video it even says the footage was taken from a lan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_GvqkHmAaU
Looks like all those 3 days of hacking experience and his self proclaimed ability to spot a hacker a mile away 100% have failed here gents
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_GvqkHmAaU
Looks like all those 3 days of hacking experience and his self proclaimed ability to spot a hacker a mile away 100% have failed here gents
MemphisVonI needed some good TF2 drama to read while bored at work.
While we're on the topic, can we talk about how lack luster afla's sniping has been all season, and then last night with the 16-0 reputation on the line, he goes nuts? I need to make a video of me failing at CSGO real quick with one of alfa's shots, upload should be up soon.
Please personally message him to commend his sniping, as he will probably become filled with great sadness otherwise.
[quote=MemphisVon]I needed some good TF2 drama to read while bored at work.
While we're on the topic, can we talk about how lack luster afla's sniping has been all season, and then last night with the 16-0 reputation on the line, he goes nuts? I need to make a video of me failing at CSGO real quick with one of alfa's shots, upload should be up soon.[/quote]
Please personally message him to commend his sniping, as he will probably become filled with great sadness otherwise.
While we're on the topic, can we talk about how lack luster afla's sniping has been all season, and then last night with the 16-0 reputation on the line, he goes nuts? I need to make a video of me failing at CSGO real quick with one of alfa's shots, upload should be up soon.[/quote]
Please personally message him to commend his sniping, as he will probably become filled with great sadness otherwise.
"I only hacked for the good of my own team in matchmaking and to keep my rank up high against other people who were obviously cheating, and I never hacked in TF2 so... don't think I cheated my way to where I'm at. I did play this game legitimately the entire time that I did play and if I do go to LAN you will still see me playing just as good as I do without hacks in like CS:GO or with TF2. Everything is going to be the same as normal because I don't use hacks. I only used it for about three days."
This guy sounds like every other hacker who ever existed
"I only hacked for the good of my own team in matchmaking and to keep my rank up high against other people who were obviously cheating, and I never hacked in TF2 so... don't think I cheated my way to where I'm at. I did play this game legitimately the entire time that I did play and if I do go to LAN you will still see me playing just as good as I do without hacks in like CS:GO or with TF2. Everything is going to be the same as normal because I don't use hacks. I only used it for about three days."
This guy sounds like every other hacker who ever existed
This guy sounds like every other hacker who ever existed
Him To Marissa and harb:Yet again that is irrelevant, I could go to lan and fake a pattern of flicking after all my shots. I've looked through your pov's and let me say that youre not in good shape. If i have to make another video and show all the things me, and others, have seen then so be it. I will take more out of my time to bring your cheats to light. You are the scum of the earth for using these cheats and I hope to god you get whats coming to you. The fact that you've tried so hard to hide these as well is disgusting. If you do get banned for hacking harbleu isn't in good shape either. What a joke you two are.
My reply to him :Pot calling the kettle black. Lol you use hacks in a game and have the gall to call some one a disgusting human being when you are right in the same place if she really did cheat.
His reply to me:I AM a disgusting human being for using hacks, but when I used hacks I had good intentions for my team to only use against other hackers. But the fact that this person used hacks to obtain a medal in a community of very nice people is beyond disgusting. That is absolute fucking filth.
At least he admits to being a dumb piece of shit.
Him To Marissa and harb:Yet again that is irrelevant, I could go to lan and fake a pattern of flicking after all my shots. I've looked through your pov's and let me say that youre not in good shape. If i have to make another video and show all the things me, and others, have seen then so be it. I will take more out of my time to bring your cheats to light. You are the scum of the earth for using these cheats and I hope to god you get whats coming to you. The fact that you've tried so hard to hide these as well is disgusting. If you do get banned for hacking harbleu isn't in good shape either. What a joke you two are.
My reply to him :Pot calling the kettle black. Lol you use hacks in a game and have the gall to call some one a disgusting human being when you are right in the same place if she really did cheat.
His reply to me:I AM a disgusting human being for using hacks, but when I used hacks I had good intentions for my team to only use against other hackers. But the fact that this person used hacks to obtain a medal in a community of very nice people is beyond disgusting. That is absolute fucking filth.
At least he admits to being a dumb piece of shit.
My reply to him :Pot calling the kettle black. Lol you use hacks in a game and have the gall to call some one a disgusting human being when you are right in the same place if she really did cheat.
His reply to me:I AM a disgusting human being for using hacks, but when I used hacks I had good intentions for my team to only use against other hackers. But the fact that this person used hacks to obtain a medal in a community of very nice people is beyond disgusting. That is absolute fucking filth.
At least he admits to being a dumb piece of shit.
Ok, in light of M4risa posting this video in response to Axiom's retarded witch hunt, what do you guys think of it? (the footage here was recorded from her pov demo).
Ok, in light of M4risa posting [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO08gy6SgCE]this video[/url] in response to Axiom's retarded witch hunt, what do you guys think of it? (the footage here was recorded from her pov demo).
TheFragileMarisa will do just fine at GXL, which should put this to rest.
The problem is that I don't think anyone claimed that m4risa was using full time aimbot or anything, just that she would occasionally use a toggle aimbot hack. (which sounds pretty hard to prove/disprove) she will probaby do pretty well at GXL, but I don't think that can be said as definite proof that she never had a toggle. ( unless she hits airshots that look similar to the lakeside one)
With all that said though, I watched a pov and a half that contained the "alternating flick shot" (that was mentioned in the video) which was consistent with any misses and bodyshots as well as head shots. So if the ugc AC dosnt see anything definite there's not much case to go on. Kudos to m4risa for providing said povs, I can't see why someone would hack and give their povs to admins voluntarily for them to see if there are any hacks in it neither then to disprove accusations.
[quote=TheFragile]Marisa will do just fine at GXL, which should put this to rest.[/quote]
The problem is that I don't think anyone claimed that m4risa was using full time aimbot or anything, just that she would occasionally use a toggle aimbot hack. (which sounds pretty hard to prove/disprove) she will probaby do pretty well at GXL, but I don't think that can be said as definite proof that she never had a toggle. ( unless she hits airshots that look similar to the lakeside one)
With all that said though, I watched a pov and a half that contained the "alternating flick shot" (that was mentioned in the video) which was consistent with any misses and bodyshots as well as head shots. So if the ugc AC dosnt see anything definite there's not much case to go on. Kudos to m4risa for providing said povs, I can't see why someone would hack and give their povs to admins voluntarily for them to see if there are any hacks in it neither then to disprove accusations.
The problem is that I don't think anyone claimed that m4risa was using full time aimbot or anything, just that she would occasionally use a toggle aimbot hack. (which sounds pretty hard to prove/disprove) she will probaby do pretty well at GXL, but I don't think that can be said as definite proof that she never had a toggle. ( unless she hits airshots that look similar to the lakeside one)
With all that said though, I watched a pov and a half that contained the "alternating flick shot" (that was mentioned in the video) which was consistent with any misses and bodyshots as well as head shots. So if the ugc AC dosnt see anything definite there's not much case to go on. Kudos to m4risa for providing said povs, I can't see why someone would hack and give their povs to admins voluntarily for them to see if there are any hacks in it neither then to disprove accusations.
ReasonerThe problem is that I don't think anyone claimed that m4risa was using full time aimbot or anything, just that she would occasionally use a toggle aimbot hack. (which sounds pretty hard to prove/disprove) she will probaby do pretty well at GXL, but I don't think that can be said as definite proof that she never had a toggle. ( unless she hits airshots that look similar to the lakeside one)
If being lan proven isn't definitive proof of a players legitimacy then there is literally no way to prove it. If a player aims the same way on lan as they do online and plays well, then there is no other way to prove themselves clean. Hence why the burden of proof lies on the accuser, which up until now has been pretty much non-existent.
[quote=Reasoner]The problem is that I don't think anyone claimed that m4risa was using full time aimbot or anything, just that she would occasionally use a toggle aimbot hack. (which sounds pretty hard to prove/disprove) she will probaby do pretty well at GXL, but I don't think that can be said as definite proof that she never had a toggle. ( unless she hits airshots that look similar to the lakeside one)[/quote]
If being lan proven isn't definitive proof of a players legitimacy then there is literally no way to prove it. If a player aims the same way on lan as they do online and plays well, then there is no other way to prove themselves clean. Hence why the burden of proof lies on the accuser, which up until now has been pretty much non-existent.
If being lan proven isn't definitive proof of a players legitimacy then there is literally no way to prove it. If a player aims the same way on lan as they do online and plays well, then there is no other way to prove themselves clean. Hence why the burden of proof lies on the accuser, which up until now has been pretty much non-existent.
harbleuReasonerThe problem is that I don't think anyone claimed that m4risa was using full time aimbot or anything, just that she would occasionally use a toggle aimbot hack. (which sounds pretty hard to prove/disprove) she will probaby do pretty well at GXL, but I don't think that can be said as definite proof that she never had a toggle. ( unless she hits airshots that look similar to the lakeside one)
If being lan proven isn't definitive proof of a players legitimacy then there is literally no way to prove it. If a player aims the same way on lan as they do online and plays well, then there is no other way to prove themselves legit. Hence why the burden of proof lies on the accuser, which up until now has been pretty much non-existent.
That's the problem, unless you can mimic the air headshots (not easy to do on demand) then there's no definitive way to say she's never ever hacked, in my opinion anyway. Maybe she can/will do really similar things at LAN, which is enough for me. If ugc ac team says they don't find anything though, it's pretty reasonable to assume she dosnt hack. (Especially with making it into a frag vid and sending povs)
But yeah, there's not nearly enough for me to say she's hacking, probably just good shots. I'll watch the viaduct demo later to see if the aiming style changes in the 2nd half. (V. Dk) shouldint have been made public into this mess.
[quote=harbleu][quote=Reasoner]The problem is that I don't think anyone claimed that m4risa was using full time aimbot or anything, just that she would occasionally use a toggle aimbot hack. (which sounds pretty hard to prove/disprove) she will probaby do pretty well at GXL, but I don't think that can be said as definite proof that she never had a toggle. ( unless she hits airshots that look similar to the lakeside one)[/quote]
If being lan proven isn't definitive proof of a players legitimacy then there is literally no way to prove it. If a player aims the same way on lan as they do online and plays well, then there is no other way to prove themselves legit. Hence why the burden of proof lies on the accuser, which up until now has been pretty much non-existent.[/quote]
That's the problem, unless you can mimic the air headshots (not easy to do on demand) then there's no definitive way to say she's never ever hacked, in my opinion anyway. Maybe she can/will do really similar things at LAN, which is enough for me. If ugc ac team says they don't find anything though, it's pretty reasonable to assume she dosnt hack. (Especially with making it into a frag vid and sending povs)
But yeah, there's not nearly enough for me to say she's hacking, probably just good shots. I'll watch the viaduct demo later to see if the aiming style changes in the 2nd half. (V. Dk) shouldint have been made public into this mess.
If being lan proven isn't definitive proof of a players legitimacy then there is literally no way to prove it. If a player aims the same way on lan as they do online and plays well, then there is no other way to prove themselves legit. Hence why the burden of proof lies on the accuser, which up until now has been pretty much non-existent.[/quote]
That's the problem, unless you can mimic the air headshots (not easy to do on demand) then there's no definitive way to say she's never ever hacked, in my opinion anyway. Maybe she can/will do really similar things at LAN, which is enough for me. If ugc ac team says they don't find anything though, it's pretty reasonable to assume she dosnt hack. (Especially with making it into a frag vid and sending povs)
But yeah, there's not nearly enough for me to say she's hacking, probably just good shots. I'll watch the viaduct demo later to see if the aiming style changes in the 2nd half. (V. Dk) shouldint have been made public into this mess.
wpminnowsbetween this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be good
what hiGPS video are you talking about?
[quote=wpminnows]between this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be good[/quote]
what hiGPS video are you talking about?
what hiGPS video are you talking about?
TheManWithNoNamewpminnowsbetween this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be good
what hiGPS video are you talking about?
I think he's referring to this vid
[quote=TheManWithNoName][quote=wpminnows]between this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be good[/quote]
what hiGPS video are you talking about?[/quote]
I think he's referring to this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCgaajqoMA4
what hiGPS video are you talking about?[/quote]
I think he's referring to this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCgaajqoMA4
tenacioustoasterTheManWithNoNameI think he's referring to this vidwpminnowsbetween this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be goodwhat hiGPS video are you talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCgaajqoMA4
Nope, there was a mumble record or something like that of HiGPS qq'ing and hackusating m4risa but seems like it's been removed.
[quote=tenacioustoaster][quote=TheManWithNoName][quote=wpminnows]between this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be good[/quote]
what hiGPS video are you talking about?[/quote]
I think he's referring to this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCgaajqoMA4[/quote]
Nope, there was a mumble record or something like that of HiGPS qq'ing and hackusating m4risa [s]but seems like it's been removed.[/s]
what hiGPS video are you talking about?[/quote]
I think he's referring to this vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCgaajqoMA4[/quote]
Nope, there was a mumble record or something like that of HiGPS qq'ing and hackusating m4risa [s]but seems like it's been removed.[/s]
I'll just leave this here for posterity.
AxioI've seen hacks, I've used hacks, I've hidden hacks, and I can spot hacks from a mile away with my experience.
http://i.imgur.com/1hTQoUw.jpg
Axio You do realize that I have not hacked a single time in the entire time period I have been playing tf2, and that I could simply go and buy hacks for next seasons play offs? Same example with csgo, I used it only for a short period of time to simple boost my rank and then afterwards I deleted them. Same goes for m4risa this past season except rank, its reputation and a medal for first place.
"I know he fuckin cheats cuz I have cheated long enough to know all about the cheats hes using and I see what I saw when I was cheating so I can't be wrong on this!!! I paid for a subscription to cheats 4 research!!! I never cheated once in tf2 because I respect it as a game but I cheated in CS because omfg all the cheaters kept me from ranking up without the cheats but I swear I am as good without the cheats as with the cheats I just wanted to learn how the cheats work and look so I could spot filthy cheaters like marisa!!! But ya I don't cheat!! I just know how they work from cheating which I never cheated but I have used them to see how they work!!!"
Are you fucking mental? You really, actually, genuinely, seriously thought that this argument would yield you positive results? Even a little?
I'm glad I banned this idiot from all the pug channels. If UGC has half a brain, they'll ban him as well for admitting to using cheats in CS. If nothing else, ban him in an effort to raise the average player's IQ 30 or 40 points.
I'll just leave this here for posterity.
[quote=Axio]I've seen hacks, I've used hacks, I've hidden hacks, and I can spot hacks from a mile away with my experience.[/quote]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/1hTQoUw.jpg[/img]
[quote=Axio] You do realize that [u]I have not hacked a single time[/u] in the entire time period I have been playing tf2, and that I could simply go and buy hacks for next seasons play offs? Same example with csgo, [u]I used it[/u] only for a short period of time to simple boost my rank and then afterwards I deleted them. Same goes for m4risa this past season except rank, its reputation and a medal for first place. [/quote]
"I know he fuckin cheats cuz I have cheated long enough to know all about the cheats hes using and I see what I saw when I was cheating so I can't be wrong on this!!! I paid for a subscription to cheats 4 research!!! I never cheated once in tf2 because I respect it as a game but I cheated in CS because omfg all the cheaters kept me from ranking up without the cheats but I swear I am as good without the cheats as with the cheats I just wanted to learn how the cheats work and look so I could spot filthy cheaters like marisa!!! But ya I don't cheat!! I just know how they work from cheating which I never cheated but I have used them to see how they work!!!"
Are you fucking mental? You really, actually, genuinely, [i]seriously[/i] thought that this argument would yield you positive results? Even a little?
I'm glad I banned this idiot from all the pug channels. If UGC has half a brain, they'll ban him as well for admitting to using cheats in CS. If nothing else, ban him in an effort to raise the average player's IQ 30 or 40 points.
[quote=Axio]I've seen hacks, I've used hacks, I've hidden hacks, and I can spot hacks from a mile away with my experience.[/quote]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/1hTQoUw.jpg[/img]
[quote=Axio] You do realize that [u]I have not hacked a single time[/u] in the entire time period I have been playing tf2, and that I could simply go and buy hacks for next seasons play offs? Same example with csgo, [u]I used it[/u] only for a short period of time to simple boost my rank and then afterwards I deleted them. Same goes for m4risa this past season except rank, its reputation and a medal for first place. [/quote]
"I know he fuckin cheats cuz I have cheated long enough to know all about the cheats hes using and I see what I saw when I was cheating so I can't be wrong on this!!! I paid for a subscription to cheats 4 research!!! I never cheated once in tf2 because I respect it as a game but I cheated in CS because omfg all the cheaters kept me from ranking up without the cheats but I swear I am as good without the cheats as with the cheats I just wanted to learn how the cheats work and look so I could spot filthy cheaters like marisa!!! But ya I don't cheat!! I just know how they work from cheating which I never cheated but I have used them to see how they work!!!"
Are you fucking mental? You really, actually, genuinely, [i]seriously[/i] thought that this argument would yield you positive results? Even a little?
I'm glad I banned this idiot from all the pug channels. If UGC has half a brain, they'll ban him as well for admitting to using cheats in CS. If nothing else, ban him in an effort to raise the average player's IQ 30 or 40 points.
so is everyone that's ever hit a headshot in the air hacking? just need to clear this up because I might be due some etf2l div6 winners medals.
so is everyone that's ever hit a headshot in the air hacking? just need to clear this up because I might be due some etf2l div6 winners medals.
TheManWithNoNamewpminnowsbetween this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be good
what hiGPS video are you talking about?
[quote=TheManWithNoName][quote=wpminnows]between this and that higps video i'm thinking marisa accusation videos will always be good[/quote]
what hiGPS video are you talking about?[/quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44dgjFD2eI
what hiGPS video are you talking about?[/quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P44dgjFD2eI
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