https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YakykAbxiek&t=11m1s

No throws here though.

this is a good moment to think a bit about this thing and if it ever should happen. CSGO players have actual prizes to play for yet they opt to throw for skins what do you think is going to happen in tf2 where we have virtually nothing worth playing for other than fun. We also don't have 250k majors and valve is never going to give a damn about our betting problems.

I'd like to believe that in such a small community like our no one would really consider throwin for le skins but...

dflame of cs?

to be honest i wonder how the betting will work in saloon.tf
if its tf2 skins then itll be pretty harmless as most skins arent worth anything outside of unusuals and some promos from when they first started promos.
dota skins are really all over the place in worth so idk how that go.
and if its CS skins then nothing is sacred.

I use to bet in dota2lounge, it's not that great, you have to put up some really high quality cosmetics to actually get a good gain. Most items in Dota 2 are really cheap, even the rares. About 1-2 years ago, most or all rares were like 30 cents or higher which was cool, but now they are/can be as cheap as 3-5 cents. Although biased and with no statistical proof, I feel that is it much harder to get drops in Dota 2, and when you do you most likely get a rare or lower(so it'll be like 3 cents). These low values might have to do with the amount of players playing Dota(over 900,000), so some drops will definitely be the same item and this would decrease an item's value. As years go by, the rares that were a certain smallish supply become cheaper as more and more are dropped. Dota 2 economy is weird and crazy so I don't know much about it.

I have only been betting in csgolounge lately, but it's pretty well balanced. There is numerous amount of skins with different low-high prices which is not too hard to obtain. I been betting 11 cent to 30 cent items and if you win, you would usually get an appropriate reward with it's worth. The CSGO economy seems to be doing well and it's really direct.

As for TF2 and saloon.tf, it'll seem a bit weird at first I think. If we go by steam market prices, you could only really bet vintages, genuines, keys, bills, buds, and unusuals(listed off the top of my head). But some people deem refined metal to be what, 20 cents or something? This could work and not work as refined isn't too hard to make, but at least many will be able to participate(whether you deem this as good or bad depends). I think one thing for sure, it can't be as bad as dota2lounge...or at least I hope.

If anyone's still paying attention, GMX has accused Epsilon of throwing a game against OverGaming last year. Source and more information here.

I have a really hard time believing that scream would fix matches :/

Peer pressure does wonders. Though it could just be GMX stirring shit up, I'm not surprised that all this has happened with how valve is handling gambling accessible to kids.

I think it's because since GMX is quitting CS he might as well tell people the truth. I mean, I hope it's not true but if it is, I hope Epsilon gets punished because match fixing is a fucking joke.

the "friends" of epsilon who bet against them make it seem like they really threw, especially the 6month inactive account coming back just to make a huge bet against epsi

http://www.dailydot.com/esports/braxton-swag-pierce-counter-strike-match-fixing/

http://www.hltv.org/news/14149-fxy0-admits-match-fixing

If scream actually is innocent like GMX says, then holy shit, he must be the unluckiest CS player in the world. Poor guy.

https://www.facebook.com/fxy0CS/posts/552067954895604

More teams getting bans, and it's been clarified that it's an indefinite ban subject to review:

Source: http://www.esl-one.com/csgo/katowice-2015/news/update-on-the-offline-qualifier-including-disqualifications-invites-and-more/

Goodnight sweet prince

man it feels like a LOT of players are getting banned
is 2015 gonna be a shitty year because of how many top players are getting banned?

good riddance

I think them fixing matches would have made it a shittier year.

thats fair

well there goes most of polish cs. kinda sucks, but shouldn't have match fixed.

dont worry, vp represents 95% of polish cs

If proof came out that VP threw a couple random games, I wouldn't be surprised or doubt it honestly.

looks like ex-ESC got unbanned? Still not really fair since they have at least 2 players who threw on ALSEN.

edit: apparently they were involved but didn't actually play in the match. considering they banned other players who were involved, I'd say it's still fair to ban.

Big PR fuck-up by Valve. Banning players, providing no evidence for their bans, then "further investigation" leads to reversing their previous decision.

They're so disconnected from the CS community.

I wonder if ESEA will follow their reversal soon.

ESEA already followed through and unbanned the players.

Kind of off topic but Sir scoots reported csgolounge to the fbi (https://twitter.com/SirScoots/status/564083952017604608)

should be interesting to see what happens

fckin narc

Holy fuck people seem mad* about him reporting it and even more hilarious that they think nothing can be done about it. Valve controls the "currency" and the FBI could just make them shut down the api support for CSGO Lounge completely.

well u used the word butthurt so im just gonna ignore everything else u say forever thanks