2canalysis of game3 has somehow ignored s4 feeding the opposing team from start to finish
They did talk about him being awful game 3 during the game though. So many retarded dives and just being out of position in general.
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[quote=2c]analysis of game3 has somehow ignored s4 feeding the opposing team from start to finish[/quote]
They did talk about him being awful game 3 during the game though. So many retarded dives and just being out of position in general.
They did talk about him being awful game 3 during the game though. So many retarded dives and just being out of position in general.
notail is good, aui/zai are better. secret upgraded c9 downgraded from the trade overall. misery is probably better than pld which theoretically would offset. my guess is it's leadership issues moreso than any playeskill issues.
notail is good, aui/zai are better. secret upgraded c9 downgraded from the trade overall. misery is probably better than pld which theoretically would offset. my guess is it's leadership issues moreso than any playeskill issues.
brownymaster2canalysis of game3 has somehow ignored s4 feeding the opposing team from start to finishThey did talk about him being awful game 3 during the game though. So many retarded dives and just being out of position in general.
if after the game they endlessly talk about an sf losing his lane vs a sniper + sd mir roam theres issues
in general they spoke as if the game was hopeless very early on. thjere was a fight top where sf got arrowed at sideshop and the positioning was just awful and secret still almost won. if s4 didnt have bad game it would have been a 20minute steamroll
[quote=brownymaster][quote=2c]analysis of game3 has somehow ignored s4 feeding the opposing team from start to finish[/quote]
They did talk about him being awful game 3 during the game though. So many retarded dives and just being out of position in general.[/quote]
if after the game they endlessly talk about an sf losing his lane vs a sniper + sd mir roam theres issues
in general they spoke as if the game was hopeless very early on. thjere was a fight top where sf got arrowed at sideshop and the positioning was just awful and secret still almost won. if s4 didnt have bad game it would have been a 20minute steamroll
They did talk about him being awful game 3 during the game though. So many retarded dives and just being out of position in general.[/quote]
if after the game they endlessly talk about an sf losing his lane vs a sniper + sd mir roam theres issues
in general they spoke as if the game was hopeless very early on. thjere was a fight top where sf got arrowed at sideshop and the positioning was just awful and secret still almost won. if s4 didnt have bad game it would have been a 20minute steamroll
2cif after the game they endlessly talk about an sf losing his lane vs a sniper + sd mir roam theres issues
in general they spoke as if the game was hopeless very early on. thjere was a fight top where sf got arrowed at sideshop and the positioning was just awful and secret still almost won. if s4 didnt have bad game it would have been a 20minute steamroll
Didn't watch stream after game, but it was definitely s4's fault. Game was suppose to be won before 20 minutes, and I don't know how he botched bot so bad.
Also, EG looking pretty strong. Sumail can storm. Could argue the problem is the way BG laned/drafted though.
[quote=2c]if after the game they endlessly talk about an sf losing his lane vs a sniper + sd mir roam theres issues
in general they spoke as if the game was hopeless very early on. thjere was a fight top where sf got arrowed at sideshop and the positioning was just awful and secret still almost won. if s4 didnt have bad game it would have been a 20minute steamroll[/quote]
Didn't watch stream after game, but it was definitely s4's fault. Game was suppose to be won before 20 minutes, and I don't know how he botched bot so bad.
Also, EG looking pretty strong. Sumail can storm. Could argue the problem is the way BG laned/drafted though.
in general they spoke as if the game was hopeless very early on. thjere was a fight top where sf got arrowed at sideshop and the positioning was just awful and secret still almost won. if s4 didnt have bad game it would have been a 20minute steamroll[/quote]
Didn't watch stream after game, but it was definitely s4's fault. Game was suppose to be won before 20 minutes, and I don't know how he botched bot so bad.
Also, EG looking pretty strong. Sumail can storm. Could argue the problem is the way BG laned/drafted though.
sleeepybl4nksleeepyfalconI feel really bad for n0tail. He was the most talented player on Secret
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.
Average for a pro? You never saw him be the best mid in HoN by a mile when fnatic was trashing everyone. His talent is on par with people on Secret for sure. Just because an all star player doesn't end up on staying on an all star team doesn't mean he's not good anymore. Secret was probably not meshing with him as well as they wanted so they went separate ways.
Thats cool and everything but HoN was 3-4 years ago. What has he accomplished in Dota2? Comparing him to the rest of Secret is a joke. Everyone on that team is far better and more importantly more proven than notail. Zai and Arteezy have done a lot more in much less time. Kuroky and Puppey are legends. Everyone on Secret is an elite-level player. You can't compare notail to them, so yeah he's an average pro.
I'd argue that n0tail is just as (or close to as) talented as the other players in Secret in general, but if you have a choice between n0tail/Fly and Arteezy/zai who have a fuckton of experience playing together and a lot of chemistry in general not to mention their individual skill it's really a no brainer.
I'd even maybe argue that n0tail isn't quite as at home as he could be playing the roles he is. I think later this year we might see him in a different position or even just getting used to the position he's in because the guy REALLY has a lot of skill as a mid if you look at his HoN days. Chemistry is the most important thing in a team though and it just seems like C9 doesn't have any with these people.
[quote=sleeepy][quote=bl4nk][quote=sleeepy][quote=falcon]I feel really bad for n0tail. He was the most talented player on Secret[/quote]
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.[/quote]
Average for a pro? You never saw him be the best mid in HoN by a mile when fnatic was trashing everyone. His talent is on par with people on Secret for sure. Just because an all star player doesn't end up on staying on an all star team doesn't mean he's not good anymore. Secret was probably not meshing with him as well as they wanted so they went separate ways.[/quote]
Thats cool and everything but HoN was 3-4 years ago. What has he accomplished in Dota2? Comparing him to the rest of Secret is a joke. Everyone on that team is far better and more importantly more proven than notail. Zai and Arteezy have done a lot more in much less time. Kuroky and Puppey are legends. Everyone on Secret is an elite-level player. You can't compare notail to them, so yeah he's an average pro.[/quote]
I'd argue that n0tail is just as (or close to as) talented as the other players in Secret in general, but if you have a choice between n0tail/Fly and Arteezy/zai who have a fuckton of experience playing together and a lot of chemistry in general not to mention their individual skill it's really a no brainer.
I'd even maybe argue that n0tail isn't quite as at home as he could be playing the roles he is. I think later this year we might see him in a different position or even just getting used to the position he's in because the guy REALLY has a lot of skill as a mid if you look at his HoN days. Chemistry is the most important thing in a team though and it just seems like C9 doesn't have any with these people.
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.[/quote]
Average for a pro? You never saw him be the best mid in HoN by a mile when fnatic was trashing everyone. His talent is on par with people on Secret for sure. Just because an all star player doesn't end up on staying on an all star team doesn't mean he's not good anymore. Secret was probably not meshing with him as well as they wanted so they went separate ways.[/quote]
Thats cool and everything but HoN was 3-4 years ago. What has he accomplished in Dota2? Comparing him to the rest of Secret is a joke. Everyone on that team is far better and more importantly more proven than notail. Zai and Arteezy have done a lot more in much less time. Kuroky and Puppey are legends. Everyone on Secret is an elite-level player. You can't compare notail to them, so yeah he's an average pro.[/quote]
I'd argue that n0tail is just as (or close to as) talented as the other players in Secret in general, but if you have a choice between n0tail/Fly and Arteezy/zai who have a fuckton of experience playing together and a lot of chemistry in general not to mention their individual skill it's really a no brainer.
I'd even maybe argue that n0tail isn't quite as at home as he could be playing the roles he is. I think later this year we might see him in a different position or even just getting used to the position he's in because the guy REALLY has a lot of skill as a mid if you look at his HoN days. Chemistry is the most important thing in a team though and it just seems like C9 doesn't have any with these people.
Holy fuck these 8 slotting games. Rave surprisingly strong.
Holy fuck these 8 slotting games. Rave surprisingly strong.
brownymasterHoly fuck these 8 slotting games. Rave surprisingly strong.
pinoy power
honestly when i saw this team form i thought it was a joke because jeyo basically got rejected out of NA
[quote=brownymaster]Holy fuck these 8 slotting games. Rave surprisingly strong.[/quote]
pinoy power
honestly when i saw this team form i thought it was a joke because jeyo basically got rejected out of NA
pinoy power
honestly when i saw this team form i thought it was a joke because jeyo basically got rejected out of NA
rave has actually more of a north american team than c9 is lol
go jeyo
rave has actually more of a north american team than c9 is lol
go jeyo
go jeyo
Going to guess 3:1 EG, even though VG is a better team. I think EG will just have a little more momentum going in and somehow manage to win it. Could end up being a 3:0 VG's way though (or more likely, but I have some faith in EG).
Going to guess 3:1 EG, even though VG is a better team. I think EG will just have a little more momentum going in and somehow manage to win it. Could end up being a 3:0 VG's way though (or more likely, but I have some faith in EG).
Sumail's 4 deaths in less than 5 minutes....eeek
edit: 6:5?? sorry i doubted
Sumail's 4 deaths in less than 5 minutes....eeek
edit: 6:5?? sorry i doubted
edit: 6:5?? sorry i doubted
fishandkipsSumail's 4 deaths in less than 5 minutes....eeek
edit: 6:5?? sorry i doubted
Then 10 kills at 11 minutes. The birth of S-god.
USA USA USA
And holy fuck "I think I'd deserve it" if SS got renamed to Sumail. 15 year olds and he's won the eastern major. I love his ego.
[quote=fishandkips]Sumail's 4 deaths in less than 5 minutes....eeek
edit: 6:5?? sorry i doubted[/quote]
Then 10 kills at 11 minutes. The birth of S-god.
USA USA USA
And holy fuck "I think I'd deserve it" if SS got renamed to Sumail. 15 year olds and he's won the eastern major. I love his ego.
edit: 6:5?? sorry i doubted[/quote]
Then 10 kills at 11 minutes. The birth of S-god.
USA USA USA
And holy fuck "I think I'd deserve it" if SS got renamed to Sumail. 15 year olds and he's won the eastern major. I love his ego.
i do gotta say betting against secret is incredibly rewarding
i do gotta say betting against secret is incredibly rewarding
i think sumail's biggest strength is he doesn't tilt every time he gets off to a bad start
i think sumail's biggest strength is he doesn't tilt every time he gets off to a bad start
what im more curious about is how the chinese reshuffle is gonna affect china. i would love to see vg stay together with burning replacing black.lets be honest, as much as i would love black to stay they're gonna cut him due to the language barrier but who knows.
gg eg sumail so cocky in his interviews lol.
what im more curious about is how the chinese reshuffle is gonna affect china. i would love to see vg stay together with burning replacing black.lets be honest, as much as i would love black to stay they're gonna cut him due to the language barrier but who knows.
gg eg sumail so cocky in his interviews lol.
gg eg sumail so cocky in his interviews lol.
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