stop relying on trickstabs
play the class more
realize that braindead pubbers are not the same level as comp players, who have at least 1 synapse

Forget about trickstabs, just try to improve putting yourself in positions where you can kill people when they don't notice. Thinking so much about trickstabs is like calculating repair costs and methods to approaching auto-repair mechanics, when you just shouldn't have crashed the car in the first place. Don't crash the car, don't get caught out.

As a side note, this forum is generally for competitive TF2 and 6v6 in particular. Just a heads up that questions like this don't really get much from being posted here.

play more

the more you play, the more you will understand all the ways that people move

i've played with/against acooma and stabby a ton of times, and it's just about learning when to start or stop moving or when to hug a corner or when to move while people are looking for you

a lot of the times they get chains of people stabbed is when they have them all lined up around an objective and have someone distract for them to get in easier, the higher you go in terms of player experience, the more likely that situation won't present itself often

it's mainly about patience combined with luck

when time is being crunched, you should know from having experience when to go in when people won't be checking for spies, like when people are starting to move for a push or are trying to milk ubercharges when a fight is starting

more often than not, spies would get 1-2 kills and then die, but better spy players will usually just single people out that aren't around their teammates and just be a nuisance over going for streak stab kills

rofl

major thakns. The most helpful thing I've gotten from this. tbh, playing spy on lobbies is ezmode and all you need to do to be "good" is to backstab the medic and keep him dead the whole match.

medic is obviously a good pick always but if there's one player on the other team doing well (or it's a map where a class is really good like via for sniper) you should try to focus them down

"Hey guys how do I improve my gameplay as X class? I am doing really well against valve pubbers and I only do flashy things like my idols do in their frag videos so that I can one day make my own frag video and bask in e-fame."
"What do you mean use the already existing community resources? That would require effort, spoon feed me please."

except thats not at all what hes saying twisted -vote
i typed minus vote and got plus fragged the fuck is wrong with you people?

I really think you're missing the point of this. If people were to take all of their best moments and just go compile into one video, then anybody could look like they're better than Acooma or Stabby. Also, if you really think there is one, go and show me a detailed guide on movements. Pls do. I intend to use movements to help me escape sticky situations in lobbies when many people are searching for me.

i'm pretty sure typing out that super witty response took more effort than helping him

don't forget that you have a gun!
and don't undervalue the revolver, either. the ambassador is not the only good primary :)

Just get some seasons under your belt and learn from mistakes.

I'd say movement and positioning has a lot to do with being unpredictable. If the enemy knows what you are doing and where you are going, you're going to have a much harder time. I don't know much about Spy, but I remember this trick of cloaking and then immediately switching direction so the enemy doesn't know where you are going.
Map knowledge is key, know where players normally are and take a look at various little jumps that you can do to get someplace you didn't know you could or to open up a different flanking route.
Your best bet is to have a plan in mind beforehand instead of having to hastily make one up on the go. Also, don't go for trickstabs and flashy plays all the time, what makes people good is helping their team and playing consistently

Main like 10 seasons of scout. There really isn't "movement" to spy considering the DR watch makes up for everything. Learning how to surf damage is useful getting out of cramped situations though.

Watching youtube vids of trickstabbing is the most useless parasitic shit you can learn in TF2.

SteveCs a plat spy listen to his advice

I always thought Slurgis videos were quite helpful!mchexk them out if you didnt already.

realize that you only have to walk up to peoples backs not take away there virginity

Become 12

Learn every little nuance of every map you'll play in comp. There can be so many routes and pathways that nobody ever thinks about (scouts don't need them cause double jump, soldiers don't them cause RJ, etc). If nobody is ever thinking about those spots and routes, then they'll never think to check for you there. I remember playing HL on some map against some spy who kept killing our medic over and over and we had no fucking clue how he managed it. Turns out he found some sneaky jump that got him into a position that we'd never think to check.

Don't use idiot proof weapons like DR and Spycicle and you will eventually learn how to not die every 15 seconds while still killing people.

I regret nothing.

Play the other classes, you'll improve your aim and movement faster while getting a better sense of how those classes will react in specific situations.

I pretty agree with this 100%. When I'm in lobbies, I use the Invis watch, and it doesn't stop me from surfing at all. I've personally learned that Spy is a very low priority target, and if I can sneak in with an Invis Watch undetected (Unlike the obvious as hell DR that makes targets expect you, and makes every2 less vulnerable) easily allowing me to pick off high-priority targets, along with the occasional Pyro and happenseverytim Heavy. I also think that having a second-life machine isn't going to make you better, but instead more sloppy and less careful.

I can use the revolver just as effectively as I can use a shotgun, and my Amby aim can consistently kill people that aren't scouts. I'm a noob, but I still have 1,000 Hours, a Steelseries Rival, and a mid-low DPI. I honestly think enemy reactions are very obvious, and knowing the general enemy positions on the map is much more important.

to be honest?

don't play spy

i heard u can practice that in mge

Sounds like you know what you're doing then, just keep playing. Asking tftv for spy tips is like asking Hitler to point you in the direction of the nearest synagogue.

lol

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O7YdtH-cC9M

as a wise man once told me

"YOU GET BETTER AT TF2 BY PLAYING FUCKING TF2"