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note that many of these paintings depict goddesses and royalty which represent the ideal of what a woman should be for that time period. you can find more with a simple google search. common features include: small waist, protruding hip bones, thin arms, long legs, tight ass, etc...
fat women have never been desirable in any culture, save for a few isolated tribes in africa. not only has the male's spectrum for attraction not changed in the past 6000 years, it wouldn't even have made any sense if it had. in ancient times, people had to work to survive and women were expected to have certain jobs and tasks, same as men. a fat women would have been seen as nothing but a depletion of resources, food, a higher risk of disease, and poor fertility.
tfw you'll never have a qtpie ancient egyptian gf
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note that many of these paintings depict goddesses and royalty which represent the ideal of what a woman should be for that time period. you can find more with a simple google search. common features include: small waist, protruding hip bones, thin arms, long legs, tight ass, etc...
fat women have never been desirable in any culture, save for a few isolated tribes in africa. not only has the male's spectrum for attraction not changed in the past 6000 years, it wouldn't even have made any sense if it had. in ancient times, people had to work to survive and women were expected to have certain jobs and tasks, same as men. a fat women would have been seen as nothing but a depletion of resources, food, a higher risk of disease, and poor fertility.[/quote]
tfw you'll never have a qtpie ancient egyptian gf
responding to hooli posts is a dangerous game to play, you guys need to be more careful
i dont get the frustration, dad bods are attractive to me as well, being fit just comes with a boring ass lifestyle
Hallowi dont get the frustration, dad bods are attractive to me as well, being fit just comes with a boring ass lifestyle
That's a pretty sweeping generalization to make. You can be responsible about your diet, be healthy, and still have pizza/alcohol/junk pretty often. Additionally it really depends on what you consider a "boring ass lifestyle". I have climber friends who are jacked and they travel north America mountain climbing, backpacking, and camping. being in shape does not require you to be a gym rat who eats nothing but reheated chicken and broccoli. I would say your statement is true for people on both extremes, those who obsess over every calorie or missed workout and those who are so unfit they can't enjoy normal activities.
That's a pretty sweeping generalization to make. You can be responsible about your diet, be healthy, and still have pizza/alcohol/junk pretty often. Additionally it really depends on what you consider a "boring ass lifestyle". I have climber friends who are jacked and they travel north America mountain climbing, backpacking, and camping. being in shape does not require you to be a gym rat who eats nothing but reheated chicken and broccoli. I would say your statement is true for people on both extremes, those who obsess over every calorie or missed workout and those who are so unfit they can't enjoy normal activities.
the dad bod experience is described as lifting weights with a relaxed (sloppy even) diet. surely that translates to eliminating that to reach something beyond a soft belly. and in reality natural gains are extremely scarce if you regularly drink and don't watch your diet.
You COULD embrace it and enjoy the comfy life.
You COULD not care about it.
But instead, you really, really want them sexy, cut boys.
Heterosexuality in America, folks.
You COULD not care about it.
But instead, you really, really want them sexy, cut boys.
Heterosexuality in America, folks.
why does every one of these threads turn into a really philosophical discussion and every time hooli posts something really long smh
Benkan attractive body fat level is 12~15%, not >20%While I agree with the point you're trying to make your numbers are less than accurate for women.
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at least <5% body fat
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an attractive body fat level is 12~15%, not >20%[/quote]
While I agree with the point you're trying to make your numbers are less than accurate for women.
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at least <5% body fat
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DrPloxoYou COULD embrace it and enjoy the comfy life.
You COULD not care about it.
But instead, you really, really want them sexy, cut boys.
Heterosexuality in America, folks.
idk what ur point is? r u saying to be hedonistic 24/7 and never push urself?
You COULD not care about it.
But instead, you really, really want them sexy, cut boys.
Heterosexuality in America, folks.[/quote]
idk what ur point is? r u saying to be hedonistic 24/7 and never push urself?
ComangliaThis depends very heavily on the subjective view point of "How fat is fat?" During the Italian Renaissance the "ideal" beauty was certainly heavier than it really had been before in Europe or since for that matter. If I recall the ideal size for the Italian Renaissance was roughly a size 10 for girls which the ideal for American women now is roughly a size 6, though the average American woman is roughly a size 14 now. S. Korean/Japanese standards of beauty would require women to be roughly a size 2 or 4 (which to them a size 6, 10, and 14 are all fat).
yeah people have different perceptions of beauty but the point i'm making is that the point ploxo and turin are making, which is more fat=more sexy, is retarded. i suppose, biologically, the point of which people start to become visually repulsive is the point where they become unable to perform basic movement patterns required for manual labor or general monkeying around.
yeah people have different perceptions of beauty but the point i'm making is that the point ploxo and turin are making, which is more fat=more sexy, is retarded. i suppose, biologically, the point of which people start to become visually repulsive is the point where they become unable to perform basic movement patterns required for manual labor or general monkeying around.
DrPloxoYou COULD embrace it and enjoy the comfy life.
You COULD not care about it.
But instead, you really, really want them sexy, cut boys.
Heterosexuality in America, folks.
heterosexuality? you have a pretty skewed view on this sort of stuff lol
You COULD not care about it.
But instead, you really, really want them sexy, cut boys.
Heterosexuality in America, folks.[/quote]
heterosexuality? you have a pretty skewed view on this sort of stuff lol
PankeymanWould it be a good idea to get a kinda chubby gf and try and help her become a Fit Tit?
i think that choosing a gf with the goal of "improving" them is kind of fucked up. not that youre a bad person, but i just dont think the goal of a romantic relationship should ever be to fix someone.
DrPloxoYou COULD embrace it and enjoy the comfy life.
You COULD not care about it.
But instead, you really, really want them sexy, cut boys.
Heterosexuality in America, folks.
theres nothing comfy about being out of shape and overweight. i think that bodytype is pretty much defined by feeling ill at ease during summer when youre sweaty and gross and worried about people looking at you or being invited to swim
hell, ive never been fat but ive been out of shape and its just a terrible lifestyle choice. by not pushing yourself your body sets its upper limit as the average day, so anytime you have to walk up more stairs than usual youre awkwardly winded and because the sensation is so foreign youre even shitty at catching your breath once youve lost it.
i think most people who attempt to rationalize being fat do it because they view a disconnect between their body and mind, that their mind is their "true self", the being they choose to cater to and maximize the pleasure of. but you're more than a disembodied mind, the body you drag along is not some unfortunate carcass only persisting because we havent advanced far enough to replace it.
Hallowi dont get the frustration, dad bods are attractive to me as well, being fit just comes with a boring ass lifestyle
being fit is easy and non-invasive. 30 min a day, 3x a week is all thats required to not be fat. that and some modicum of control over your diet. if you really cant make sacrifices on the dietary side its still not a problem because you can simply choose to be more active instead. one of the reasons being unfit is so repulsive is what it betrays about the fundamental type of person they are in the worst way.
one of the keys of a successful life is an ability to recognize the self as not just your present self, but also the compilation of future and past selves. i dont think anyone honestly views being healthy and fit as less important than the time required in an absolute sense (this is why new years resolutions centering around fitness are so common) but today is never the day, right now never the time because theyre too busy or there are other things they would rather do (why resolutions fail at alarmingly high rates). its that systemized compromise (sacrificing future benefit for present gain even if the disconnect between the two is massive) that is really repulsive. its that attitude that leaves dirty dishes in the sink, a thin layer of dust over everything, and maybe most importantly: allowing a relationship to descend to shit because they can be HARD sometimes. because telling your partner that you disagree, or wish they would help out in some places, is HARD to do. but its also fucking NECESSARY, just like exercising is fucking NECESSARY if you want to be viewed as anything but a brute animal.
im out
i think that choosing a gf with the goal of "improving" them is kind of fucked up. not that youre a bad person, but i just dont think the goal of a romantic relationship should ever be to fix someone.
[quote=DrPloxo]You COULD embrace it and enjoy the comfy life.
You COULD not care about it.
But instead, you really, really want them sexy, cut boys.
Heterosexuality in America, folks.[/quote]
theres nothing comfy about being out of shape and overweight. i think that bodytype is pretty much defined by feeling ill at ease during summer when youre sweaty and gross and worried about people looking at you or being invited to swim
hell, ive never been fat but ive been out of shape and its just a terrible lifestyle choice. by not pushing yourself your body sets its upper limit as the average day, so anytime you have to walk up more stairs than usual youre awkwardly winded and because the sensation is so foreign youre even shitty at catching your breath once youve lost it.
i think most people who attempt to rationalize being fat do it because they view a disconnect between their body and mind, that their mind is their "true self", the being they choose to cater to and maximize the pleasure of. but you're more than a disembodied mind, the body you drag along is not some unfortunate carcass only persisting because we havent advanced far enough to replace it.
[quote=Hallow]i dont get the frustration, dad bods are attractive to me as well, being fit just comes with a boring ass lifestyle[/quote]
being fit is easy and non-invasive. 30 min a day, 3x a week is all thats required to not be fat. that and some modicum of control over your diet. if you really cant make sacrifices on the dietary side its still not a problem because you can simply choose to be more active instead. one of the reasons being unfit is so repulsive is what it betrays about the fundamental type of person they are in the worst way.
one of the keys of a successful life is an ability to recognize the self as not just your present self, but also the compilation of future and past selves. i dont think anyone honestly views being healthy and fit as less important than the time required in an absolute sense (this is why new years resolutions centering around fitness are so common) but today is never the day, right now never the time because theyre too busy or there are other things they would rather do (why resolutions fail at alarmingly high rates). its that systemized compromise (sacrificing future benefit for present gain even if the disconnect between the two is massive) that is really repulsive. its that attitude that leaves dirty dishes in the sink, a thin layer of dust over everything, and maybe most importantly: allowing a relationship to descend to shit because they can be HARD sometimes. because telling your partner that you disagree, or wish they would help out in some places, is HARD to do. but its also fucking NECESSARY, just like exercising is fucking NECESSARY if you want to be viewed as anything but a brute animal.
im out
ya 30 min three times a week is bs. i guess your assuming maintenance, which obviously wouldnt work for someone whos already fat. often we're talking about a 500-700 kcal deficit for close to a year, sometimes well over that.
also i should perhaps clarify that by 'fit' i didnt mean ur average not fat person nor ur grandmother who plays badminton. i meant actually visibly fit, like built and toned and all those buzzwords
also i should perhaps clarify that by 'fit' i didnt mean ur average not fat person nor ur grandmother who plays badminton. i meant actually visibly fit, like built and toned and all those buzzwords
SS or candytoes takes like 3-5 hours a week. You spend more time scrimming than u would getting swole
also a 500 kcal deficit is baby shit tbh if you cant maintain that you have absolutely NO willpower whatsoever
ie ur probably a total loser lmao
also a 500 kcal deficit is baby shit tbh if you cant maintain that you have absolutely NO willpower whatsoever
ie ur probably a total loser lmao
Hallowya 30 min three times a week is bs. i guess your assuming maintenance, which obviously wouldnt work for someone whos already fat. often we're talking about a 500-700 kcal deficit for close to a year, sometimes well over that.
also i should perhaps clarify that by 'fit' i didnt mean ur average not fat person nor ur grandmother who plays badminton. i meant actually visibly fit, like built and toned and all those buzzwords
any bodytype takes time, even the 400 lbs dude whose body has molded to his desk chair only becomes that 400 lbs dude whose body has molded to his desk chair because of a daily routine compounded by time.
becoming fit is not a month thing, its not even a year thing if youre in a terrible spot and want a non-invasive routine., but neither is becoming morbidly obese.
also i should perhaps clarify that not only is your definition of fit nonsensical in the context of the thread (were talking about whether its acceptable to be fat and you said that fit people are boring. one would be justified in assuming you were using fit to describe any body type that was "not fat") but its also nonsensical in a general sense.
imagine the word fit in the most basic sense, like how a literal child would learn the term. a specific instance would be that classic childhood block game where you place objects within like holes. kids are taught that the triangle block doesn't "fit" in the square block. theyre taught that the triangle block is not suitable for the square block, it is unable to be placed there.
so how does this apply to body types? well, lets imagine a "fit" body type, a body type which is "suitable". to me that's someone who is capable of activities that could be considered within the normal realm of activity. hiking, kayaking, riding a roller coaster without special restraints, doing a somersault, swimming etc. these activities do not require a lot of physical ability, they just require you to be "fit" for basic activity.
you could say that by your defn of fit that the previous defn is untenable, because those people could be unfit for tasks of your determining like benching 300 or crushing a can of soda with their pecs. but those are highly specialized activities requiring dedicated practice, to be unfit for those is not to be generally unfit, but to simply be unfit in that specific instance.
and moving beyond that, to deride people who can bench 300+ or crush a can of soda with their pecs as "boring" is ridiculous (esp. coming from someone with 8000 hrs in tf2). your body (w/o roids) has an upper limit on the amount of exercise you can do and see benefit. basically, each additional set has a bit of diminishing returns. these guys arent spending all day in the gym, they carve out a comparatively larger portion of their week sure, but even then they can become physically herculean without abandoning pursuits or interests outside of the gym.
also i should perhaps clarify that by 'fit' i didnt mean ur average not fat person nor ur grandmother who plays badminton. i meant actually visibly fit, like built and toned and all those buzzwords[/quote]
any bodytype takes time, even the 400 lbs dude whose body has molded to his desk chair only becomes that 400 lbs dude whose body has molded to his desk chair because of a daily routine compounded by time.
becoming fit is not a month thing, its not even a year thing if youre in a terrible spot and want a non-invasive routine., but neither is becoming morbidly obese.
also i should perhaps clarify that not only is your definition of fit nonsensical in the context of the thread (were talking about whether its acceptable to be fat and you said that fit people are boring. one would be justified in assuming you were using fit to describe any body type that was "not fat") but its also nonsensical in a general sense.
imagine the word fit in the most basic sense, like how a literal child would learn the term. a specific instance would be that classic childhood block game where you place objects within like holes. kids are taught that the triangle block doesn't "fit" in the square block. theyre taught that the triangle block is not suitable for the square block, it is unable to be placed there.
so how does this apply to body types? well, lets imagine a "fit" body type, a body type which is "suitable". to me that's someone who is capable of activities that could be considered within the normal realm of activity. hiking, kayaking, riding a roller coaster without special restraints, doing a somersault, swimming etc. these activities do not require a lot of physical ability, they just require you to be "fit" for basic activity.
you could say that by your defn of fit that the previous defn is untenable, because those people could be unfit for tasks of your determining like benching 300 or crushing a can of soda with their pecs. but those are highly specialized activities requiring dedicated practice, to be unfit for those is not to be generally unfit, but to simply be unfit in that specific instance.
and moving beyond that, to deride people who can bench 300+ or crush a can of soda with their pecs as "boring" is ridiculous (esp. coming from someone with 8000 hrs in tf2). your body (w/o roids) has an upper limit on the amount of exercise you can do and see benefit. basically, each additional set has a bit of diminishing returns. these guys arent spending all day in the gym, they carve out a comparatively larger portion of their week sure, but even then they can become physically herculean without abandoning pursuits or interests outside of the gym.
the thing is 8000 hours in tf2 is far more interesting and diverse than 6 nights a week in a gym. add to that the diet and alcohol abstinence and boring is a fair label, even from my 8000 hour perspective.
also gtfo with technical definitions. a dad bod is still (by definition) fit, just chubby cuz drinks and fast food. i said fit meaning fitter than that. dont need 8 paragraphs lmao
also gtfo with technical definitions. a dad bod is still (by definition) fit, just chubby cuz drinks and fast food. i said fit meaning fitter than that. dont need 8 paragraphs lmao
8k hours in a computer game isn't more interesting and diverse than 6 nights a week in a gym wtf
ur a complete fucking dork and i think most people are going to find you being swole as fuck a lot more interesting and approachable than being low/mid in a necrotic shooter.
if ur spending 6 nights a week at a gym anyway ur program is either shit or u actually enjoy going to the gym, there's no reason to go more than 3-4 times a week unless you're putting up weights way bigger than anyone here can.
if ur spending 6 nights a week at a gym anyway ur program is either shit or u actually enjoy going to the gym, there's no reason to go more than 3-4 times a week unless you're putting up weights way bigger than anyone here can.
what kind of crazy program are you on if your working out isnt more uniform than hanging out with people and playing different gamemodes and shit in game?
8000 / 365 = 21.92
What the fuck. You basically played this game for a whole one year of your life.
What the fuck. You basically played this game for a whole one year of your life.
Relatively convinced this hallow guy is trolling. Nobody can have such bad opinions.
its just bothering me that i'm expected to sacrifice good things in my life for apparently looking interesting
Hallowits just bothering me that i'm expected to sacrifice good things in my life for apparently looking interesting
I love this game almost more than anything else, because it has been such a big part of my life the past years, but even then I would never consider it more interesting and diverse than trying to strive to be your best self physically and mentally.
It's not about being a gym rat or sacrificing all the good things in your life, it's about being able to improve yourself and strive for your best as well as gain confidence and motivation while doing so. You can balance a regular exercising schedule with plenty other things (for example, the past 2 months I have been running 5Km every 2 days at night, if I have scrims, I do it after scrims, even if its 10-11 pm, takes me half an hour and a lot of sweating but I feel better everyday. Same can be said about meditation to improve your mental health, albeit that takes far more motivation and discipline.
I love this game almost more than anything else, because it has been such a big part of my life the past years, but even then I would never consider it more interesting and diverse than trying to strive to be your best self physically and mentally.
It's not about being a gym rat or sacrificing all the good things in your life, it's about being able to improve yourself and strive for your best as well as gain confidence and motivation while doing so. You can balance a regular exercising schedule with plenty other things (for example, the past 2 months I have been running 5Km every 2 days at night, if I have scrims, I do it after scrims, even if its 10-11 pm, takes me half an hour and a lot of sweating but I feel better everyday. Same can be said about meditation to improve your mental health, albeit that takes far more motivation and discipline.
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