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Cheater/Hacker thread
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#631
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bl4nkSo how about that team in IM with the cheaters

Mid IM even with cheats, just like always.

[quote=bl4nk]So how about that team in IM with the cheaters[/quote]


Mid IM even with cheats, just like always.
632
#632
-8 Frags +

i'd love slayer to review one of the matches we've played

i'd love slayer to review one of the matches we've played
633
#633
11 Frags +

MaxBox should be focused next

MaxBox should be focused next
634
#634
4 Frags +
cabinchambscabinretrogradenot how lmaobox works - it changes the code for every premium version so if one version is cracked any ban wave will only affect that single copy. clever but annoying as fuck.
Its not feasible or even possible afaik for it to have 100% file uniqueness across all builds unless the guy running lmaobox is coding a whole new cheat for every single member. If valve cared enough about cheats on TF2 I'm sure they could find common detection vectors to hit all of lmaobox.
it's possible you just write a polymorphic / metamorphic engine.

When I typed 100% file uniqueness I meant uniqueness @ runtime, my bad. Depending on what you mean by "polymorphic engine" (Kinda like what themida and vmprotect does???) it will help you achieve close to 100% compiled file uniqueness. Correct me if I'm wrong but I still don't see how a polymorphic engine would achieve 100% uniqueness @ runtime. Also, the slightest of patterns will result in possible detection vectors for VAC to sig it with. Plenty of well known CSGO hacks meant for "legit-style league" cheating that utilize polymorphic engines have all been hit in the past month or two by VAC (Don't want to link any cheat sites so check reddit for sauce). CSGO MM has been squeaky clean for the longest period since release :) Thanks gaben!!!

Not sure about metamorphic code but a cheat that can completely self-modify would probably be very taxing on the user's system.

Someone lmk if I'm very wrong here. Just typing this from my basic personal understanding as a newcomer CS major.

Ontopic: I haven't played TF2 in a couple of seasons but was there always this many cheaters? @_@

Ya I think themida is an example of polymorphic. Metamorphic is dynamic at run-time. The exe will disassemble and change itself when its run. I've only read about these in this cool article: http://www.openrce.org/articles/full_view/27.

segfaultsmobocabinOntopic: I haven't played TF2 in a couple of seasons but was there always this many cheaters? @_@Lmaobox is gaining huge popularity because of how long it's been undetected by VAC. People have faith in the program, and many cheaters will use it on their accounts with tons of items.
This.

Most of the current big pay cheat providers don't even have a TF2 hook for sale, LMAOBOX Premium is pretty much the goto for cheating in this game. It's annoying too, considering how often CSGO VAC waves happen - And that a lot of the cheats are pretty advanced. Don't want to fall into the usual trap of whining about Valve not caring about this game etc, but targeting this cheat would help a lot. As soon as a paycheat starts developing a reputation for being undetected for a significant amount of time more and more people will be tempted to use it, with the inverse being true as well - AW went from being the goto ragehacking cheat in CSGO to being a literal joke after two detections.

If anything, it's a reason to be excited about matchmaking - Being free to play means if they aren't more vigilant matchmaking will just be a mess.

Lmaobox is undetected because it runs in a driver and VAC3 runs in usermode.

[quote=cabin][quote=chambs][quote=cabin][quote=retrograde]not how lmaobox works - it changes the code for every premium version so if one version is cracked any ban wave will only affect that single copy. clever but annoying as fuck.[/quote]

Its not feasible or even possible afaik for it to have 100% file uniqueness across all builds unless the guy running lmaobox is coding a whole new cheat for every single member. If valve cared enough about cheats on TF2 I'm sure they could find common detection vectors to hit all of lmaobox.[/quote]
it's possible you just write a polymorphic / metamorphic engine.[/quote]

When I typed 100% file uniqueness I meant uniqueness @ runtime, my bad. Depending on what you mean by "polymorphic engine" (Kinda like what themida and vmprotect does???) it will help you achieve close to 100% compiled file uniqueness. Correct me if I'm wrong but I still don't see how a polymorphic engine would achieve 100% uniqueness @ runtime. Also, the slightest of patterns will result in possible detection vectors for VAC to sig it with. Plenty of well known CSGO hacks meant for "legit-style league" cheating that utilize polymorphic engines have all been hit in the past month or two by VAC (Don't want to link any cheat sites so check reddit for sauce). CSGO MM has been squeaky clean for the longest period since release :) Thanks gaben!!!

Not sure about metamorphic code but a cheat that can completely self-modify would probably be very taxing on the user's system.

Someone lmk if I'm very wrong here. Just typing this from my basic personal understanding as a newcomer CS major.

Ontopic: I haven't played TF2 in a couple of seasons but was there always this many cheaters? @_@[/quote]
Ya I think themida is an example of polymorphic. Metamorphic is dynamic at run-time. The exe will disassemble and change itself when its run. I've only read about these in this cool article: http://www.openrce.org/articles/full_view/27.

[quote=segfault][quote=smobo][quote=cabin]Ontopic: I haven't played TF2 in a couple of seasons but was there always this many cheaters? @_@[/quote]
Lmaobox is gaining huge popularity because of how long it's been undetected by VAC. People have faith in the program, and many cheaters will use it on their accounts with tons of items.[/quote]

This.

Most of the current big pay cheat providers don't even have a TF2 hook for sale, LMAOBOX Premium is pretty much the goto for cheating in this game. It's annoying too, considering how often CSGO VAC waves happen - And that a lot of the cheats are pretty advanced. Don't want to fall into the usual trap of whining about Valve not caring about this game etc, but targeting this cheat would help a lot. As soon as a paycheat starts developing a reputation for being undetected for a significant amount of time more and more people will be tempted to use it, with the inverse being true as well - AW went from being the goto ragehacking cheat in CSGO to being a literal joke after two detections.

If anything, it's a reason to be excited about matchmaking - Being free to play means if they aren't more vigilant matchmaking will just be a mess.[/quote]

Lmaobox is undetected because it runs in a driver and VAC3 runs in usermode.
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#635
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89zombiezJenkinsJust played a scrim with this dude.

Name: ThatIrishSOB
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ThatIrishSOB/
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:41158068

http://logs.tf/817523
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/370120

86% accuracy with the scattergun, also got 2 really obvious headshots on last. He had the gamesense of a baked potato, but whenever I saw him, he would just 2-shot me.

We're watching the demo right now. http://www.twitch.tv/evgle

Edit: Watching the demo, he jumped 3 times while revved up as a heavy, lmao.

Edit2: VOD http://www.twitch.tv/evgle/b/659223341 He jumps up revved around 18:55

Someone should probably show this thread to Zoomoo, hes the leader of the team Irish is on.

I told him that right after the scrim and sent him proof
he said "He told me hes not hacking, i believe him"

[quote=89zombiez][quote=Jenkins]Just played a scrim with this dude.

Name: ThatIrishSOB
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ThatIrishSOB/
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:41158068

http://logs.tf/817523
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/370120

86% accuracy with the scattergun, also got 2 really obvious headshots on last. He had the gamesense of a baked potato, but whenever I saw him, he would just 2-shot me.

We're watching the demo right now. http://www.twitch.tv/evgle

Edit: Watching the demo, he jumped 3 times while revved up as a heavy, lmao.

Edit2: VOD http://www.twitch.tv/evgle/b/659223341 He jumps up revved around 18:55[/quote]

Someone should probably show this thread to Zoomoo, hes the leader of the team Irish is on.[/quote]

I told him that right after the scrim and sent him proof
he said "He told me hes not hacking, i believe him"
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#636
0 Frags +
Weeabadsnip

multiple people have said that person is sketchy af' on sniper
wouldn't be surprised if they hacked.

[quote=Weeabad]snip[/quote]
multiple people have said that person is sketchy af' on sniper
wouldn't be surprised if they hacked.
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#637
1 Frags +

Can't find anything about him except his alt getting banned from reddit. //steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198084014663

Can't find anything about him except his alt getting banned from reddit. //steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198084014663
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#638
2 Frags +
eagletf89zombiezJenkinsJust played a scrim with this dude.

Name: ThatIrishSOB
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ThatIrishSOB/
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:41158068

http://logs.tf/817523
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/370120

86% accuracy with the scattergun, also got 2 really obvious headshots on last. He had the gamesense of a baked potato, but whenever I saw him, he would just 2-shot me.

We're watching the demo right now. http://www.twitch.tv/evgle

Edit: Watching the demo, he jumped 3 times while revved up as a heavy, lmao.

Edit2: VOD http://www.twitch.tv/evgle/b/659223341 He jumps up revved around 18:55

Someone should probably show this thread to Zoomoo, hes the leader of the team Irish is on.

I told him that right after the scrim and sent him proof
he said "He told me hes not hacking, i believe him"

Thats...Wow. Thats a team I wont be scrimming then.

[quote=eagletf][quote=89zombiez][quote=Jenkins]Just played a scrim with this dude.

Name: ThatIrishSOB
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ThatIrishSOB/
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:41158068

http://logs.tf/817523
http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/370120

86% accuracy with the scattergun, also got 2 really obvious headshots on last. He had the gamesense of a baked potato, but whenever I saw him, he would just 2-shot me.

We're watching the demo right now. http://www.twitch.tv/evgle

Edit: Watching the demo, he jumped 3 times while revved up as a heavy, lmao.

Edit2: VOD http://www.twitch.tv/evgle/b/659223341 He jumps up revved around 18:55[/quote]

Someone should probably show this thread to Zoomoo, hes the leader of the team Irish is on.[/quote]

I told him that right after the scrim and sent him proof
he said "He told me hes not hacking, i believe him"[/quote]

Thats...Wow. Thats a team I wont be scrimming then.
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#639
2 Frags +

which IM team has cheaters?

which IM team has cheaters?
640
#640
5 Frags +

"(Bit) 14K"
U:1:149666637
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198109932365

https://mega.co.nz/#!iEYCQITT!KBWZd71aq4IZArn8FsttQpyPAB1a3LtJwDIoMeROVvw

"(Bit) 14K"
U:1:149666637
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198109932365

https://mega.co.nz/#!iEYCQITT!KBWZd71aq4IZArn8FsttQpyPAB1a3LtJwDIoMeROVvw
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#641
2 Frags +
phobiawhich IM team has cheaters?

http://play.esea.net/teams/86840

[quote=phobia]which IM team has cheaters?[/quote]
http://play.esea.net/teams/86840
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#642
-1 Frags +
fatswimdudephobiawhich IM team has cheaters?http://play.esea.net/teams/86840

has anyone proved that they cheat or is it just out of pure suspicion?

[quote=fatswimdude][quote=phobia]which IM team has cheaters?[/quote]
http://play.esea.net/teams/86840[/quote]
has anyone proved that they cheat or is it just out of pure suspicion?
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#643
2 Frags +
phobiafatswimdudephobiawhich IM team has cheaters?http://play.esea.net/teams/86840has anyone proved that they cheat or is it just out of pure suspicion?

bullet is on that team apparently

[quote=phobia][quote=fatswimdude][quote=phobia]which IM team has cheaters?[/quote]
http://play.esea.net/teams/86840[/quote]
has anyone proved that they cheat or is it just out of pure suspicion?[/quote]
bullet is on that team apparently
644
#644
12 Frags +

In our weekly edition of "this kid is too stupid for life", I come bearing news of yet another Sun alt. This one was much much harder to find, since he's apparently realized that "SunTF" as a customID may be a bit too obvious. Instead, he's opted for a different customID, while sticking to his roots with an in game name of "sun", and using possibly every hack available to the casual consumer in a Valve pub.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/carouselmurder/
STEAM_0:1:115586221
https://mega.co.nz/#!o5pDmI5C!7-fgXCOXKaGijsO1xbNTazHSfHlRrH44BCFt3bYnLvE

Featuring his trusty sidekick hobo, who you may have seen posting in this thread
http://steamcommunity.com/id/PrussianKingAlt
STEAM_0:0:9638
https://mega.co.nz/#!50IEWRzC!eu9BN3OxzbhM8ffq-of8LL5f14ylAhNKoIrAXJ0zQ6w

In our weekly edition of "this kid is too stupid for life", I come bearing news of yet another Sun alt. This one was much much harder to find, since he's apparently realized that "SunTF" as a customID may be a bit too obvious. Instead, he's opted for a different customID, while sticking to his roots with an in game name of "sun", and using possibly every hack available to the casual consumer in a Valve pub.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/carouselmurder/
STEAM_0:1:115586221
https://mega.co.nz/#!o5pDmI5C!7-fgXCOXKaGijsO1xbNTazHSfHlRrH44BCFt3bYnLvE


Featuring his trusty sidekick hobo, who you may have seen posting in this thread
http://steamcommunity.com/id/PrussianKingAlt
STEAM_0:0:9638
https://mega.co.nz/#!50IEWRzC!eu9BN3OxzbhM8ffq-of8LL5f14ylAhNKoIrAXJ0zQ6w
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#645
3 Frags +

Bringing back that Fearmie R^4 thing, I like to browse peoples profiles when Im bored. I found this and I thought I should share http://gyazo.com/6e97ae54d99a527f8d5ebf27e2b8f256

the circlejerk is strong here

Bringing back that Fearmie R^4 thing, I like to browse peoples profiles when Im bored. I found this and I thought I should share http://gyazo.com/6e97ae54d99a527f8d5ebf27e2b8f256


the circlejerk is strong here
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#646
2 Frags +

Terry if you want one of his other ones, here it is, he added me on it a few days ago I'm sure it'll be his next account

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198193537817/

I mean hes even in the same group he always joins, the "hackers arent cheaters" one

This is sun of course if you didn't get that

Terry if you want one of his other ones, here it is, he added me on it a few days ago I'm sure it'll be his next account

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198193537817/

I mean hes even in the same group he always joins, the "hackers arent cheaters" one

This is sun of course if you didn't get that
647
#647
2 Frags +

lol

lol
648
#648
-12 Frags +

nvm pls no down vote

nvm pls no down vote
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#649
-12 Frags +

my downvotes matter to me

my downvotes matter to me
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#650
2 Frags +

Was turning yourself in for triggerbotting a joke then?

Was turning yourself in for triggerbotting a joke then?
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#651
-8 Frags +

I dont trigger bot that was the joke

I dont trigger bot that was the joke
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#652
0 Frags +

http://logs.tf/820559
http://logs.tf/profile/76561198123748611
Alt or cheater? Have anyone from EU or possibly NA played with this guy?
"jOOEY" guy
Private profile, tf2center said that he got 500 hours in tf2

http://logs.tf/820559
http://logs.tf/profile/76561198123748611
Alt or cheater? Have anyone from EU or possibly NA played with this guy?
"jOOEY" guy
Private profile, tf2center said that he got 500 hours in tf2
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#653
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.

.
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#654
-8 Frags +

topkek

topkek
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#655
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.

.
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#656
-12 Frags +
89zombiezBringing back that Fearmie R^4 thing, I like to browse peoples profiles when Im bored. I found this and I thought I should share http://gyazo.com/6e97ae54d99a527f8d5ebf27e2b8f256

the circlejerk is strong here

hilarious

[quote=89zombiez]Bringing back that Fearmie R^4 thing, I like to browse peoples profiles when Im bored. I found this and I thought I should share http://gyazo.com/6e97ae54d99a527f8d5ebf27e2b8f256


the circlejerk is strong here[/quote]

hilarious
657
#657
14 Frags +

supporting cheaters isnt very hilarious

supporting cheaters isnt very hilarious
658
#658
8 Frags +

.

.
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#659
2 Frags +

I just played with Hubble, he basically has no game sense at all lol.

I just played with Hubble, he basically has no game sense at all lol.
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#660
9 Frags +

Caught another one from tonights lobbying:

Username: S W E G

Log: http://logs.tf/822252?highlight=76561198100217307

Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:69975789

Profile: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198100217307

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After about 5 minutes of playing with this guy on viaduct we were about 99% sure he was cheating. He had the game sense of a bowling ball. Held W the whole game and hit every shot. Luckily we had accuracy stats enabled and after the lobby knew with 99.999% certainty that he was cheating.

He averaged 96% accuracy on his scattergun, and 70% on his sniper. I have literally never seen any hacker with such high accuracy on their scattergun!

STV can be downloaded here: http://logs.tf/822252?highlight=76561198100217307

After the match I added him. And he admitted to using lmaobox silent aim and walls just like I suspected he was using. Here is a paste bin of part of our conversation. I started off by saying I had a team of cheaters and that I wanted him to join us lol. Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/z6e8iTnF

Caught another one from tonights lobbying:

Username: S W E G

Log: http://logs.tf/822252?highlight=76561198100217307

Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:69975789

Profile: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198100217307

---------------------------

After about 5 minutes of playing with this guy on viaduct we were about 99% sure he was cheating. He had the game sense of a bowling ball. Held W the whole game and hit every shot. Luckily we had accuracy stats enabled and after the lobby knew with 99.999% certainty that he was cheating.

He averaged 96% accuracy on his scattergun, and 70% on his sniper. I have literally never seen any hacker with such high accuracy on their scattergun!

STV can be downloaded here: http://logs.tf/822252?highlight=76561198100217307

After the match I added him. And he admitted to using lmaobox silent aim and walls just like I suspected he was using. Here is a paste bin of part of our conversation. I started off by saying I had a team of cheaters and that I wanted him to join us lol. Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/z6e8iTnF
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