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I need help regarding RAM upgrades
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Hi, I'm Mubby. I'm a 12 year old child so I'm not smart about PC's in too much detail.
This is why I need help. I recently got my hands on a PC by my dad and it's specs are pretty decent. What is not decent how-ever is the shortage of RAM (which is only 3GB). I really want to upgrade this RAM but I have discovered that you need a specific DDR or DDM and I do not know what one I have/need. I've been trying to find out via various sites and etc but I can not find out due to me not knowing if this is a built PC by someone or a Pre-Built PC from a retailer. I also have found out you can use Softwares to have it find out what you have but they require internet and on this PC the internet is not currently available (until the next week of me posting this Thread). Until the next week, I'm just curious if anyone knows who/what this PC is from how what DDR is, but because again (I don't know anything) I have only been able to leave set amount of pictures (sorry that they are taken upon my crappy phone).

EDIT: I actually forgot the images, lol. Here they are;
http://imgur.com/a/PNvhT

But anyway if anyone can help me find out what DDR/DDM it is in advance that'd be lovely.
Thanks for reading.

Hi, I'm Mubby. I'm a 12 year old child so I'm not smart about PC's in too much detail.
This is why I need help. I recently got my hands on a PC by my dad and it's specs are pretty decent. What is not decent how-ever is the shortage of RAM (which is only 3GB). I really want to upgrade this RAM but I have discovered that you need a specific [b]DDR[/b] or [b]DDM[/b] and I do not know what one I have/need. I've been trying to find out via various sites and etc but I can not find out due to me not knowing if this is a built PC by someone or a Pre-Built PC from a retailer. I also have found out you can use Softwares to have it find out what you have but they require internet and on this PC the internet is not currently available (until the next week of me posting this Thread). Until the next week, I'm just curious if anyone knows who/what this PC is from how what [b]DDR[/b] is, but because again (I don't know anything) I have only been able to leave set amount of pictures (sorry that they are taken upon my crappy phone).

EDIT: I actually forgot the images, lol. Here they are;
http://imgur.com/a/PNvhT

But anyway if anyone can help me find out what [b]DDR/DDM[/b] it is in advance that'd be lovely.
Thanks for reading.
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If you want to get more detailed specs, Speccy is a good program to use to show you exactly what's in your computer.

EDIT: Just noticed that you said no internet on the machine. You can go into Device Manager to get a slightly better idea of what is in your machine.

If you want to get more detailed specs, Speccy is a good program to use to show you exactly what's in your computer.

EDIT: Just noticed that you said no internet on the machine. You can go into Device Manager to get a slightly better idea of what is in your machine.
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You wont be able to use more than 3gb ram with that 32 bit os. You will need a 64 bit OS.

You wont be able to use more than 3gb ram with that 32 bit os. You will need a 64 bit OS.
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The Q6600 uses DDR2.

I've never heard of DDM.

Additionally, yes, you'll need to upgrade to a 64bit OS to use more than 3.5GB.

The Q6600 uses DDR2.

I've never heard of DDM.

Additionally, yes, you'll need to upgrade to a 64bit OS to use more than 3.5GB.
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If you want to upgrade your RAM, the best way to check the DDR type is to remove your current RAM and check the labels on it. It's likely DDR2 or DDR3 depending on how old the computer is.

Look up a video on how to install and remove the RAM. Try to remember which slots the RAM sticks were in before you remove it too. Depending on your motherboard, it might matter.

If you don't want to open your computer just yet, you can also download a program called CPU-Z and check this page for the information you're looking for:

http://bcchardware.com/gallery/albums/OCZ2133/CPU_Z_SPD.jpg

Buy RAM sticks that are the same DDR level as you currently have, and have about the same frequency. If you use CPU-Z to figure out the frequency, you have to multiply the frequency by two to get the real frequency (533Mhz * 2 = 1066Mhz). So in the above case, you'd want to buy DDR3 RAM with a frequency of ~1066Mhz.

If you want to upgrade your RAM, the best way to check the DDR type is to remove your current RAM and check the labels on it. It's likely DDR2 or DDR3 depending on how old the computer is.

Look up a video on how to install and remove the RAM. Try to remember which slots the RAM sticks were in before you remove it too. Depending on your motherboard, it might matter.

If you don't want to open your computer just yet, you can also download a program called CPU-Z and check this page for the information you're looking for:

[img]http://bcchardware.com/gallery/albums/OCZ2133/CPU_Z_SPD.jpg[/img]

Buy RAM sticks that are the same DDR level as you currently have, and have about the same frequency. If you use CPU-Z to figure out the frequency, you have to multiply the frequency by two to get the real frequency (533Mhz * 2 = 1066Mhz). So in the above case, you'd want to buy DDR3 RAM with a frequency of ~1066Mhz.
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Ok, thanks for the comments so quickly.
So what I'm getting here is I need to upgrade to 64-bit. Maybe because I'm stupid but now I have more questions.

Is it possible to upgrade to 64-bit without having to buy a new PC?
How would I do this?
What would I need to buy?

Thanks again anyone.

Ok, thanks for the comments so quickly.
So what I'm getting here is I need to upgrade to 64-bit. Maybe because I'm stupid but now I have more questions.

Is it possible to upgrade to 64-bit without having to buy a new PC?
How would I do this?
What would I need to buy?

Thanks again anyone.
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You would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'll lose any data on the drive you install Windows on.

You would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'll lose any data on the drive you install Windows on.
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RigelYou would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'd overwrite your drive and lose any data on it.

Interesting.
Would this include programs, and important stuff the computer needs to actually run?

EDIT; Had another question.
Where would I be able to buy a Windows 7 Home Premium/Professional OS install disc from?

[quote=Rigel]You would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'd overwrite your drive and lose any data on it.[/quote]

Interesting.
Would this include programs, and important stuff the computer needs to actually run?

EDIT; Had another question.
Where would I be able to buy a Windows 7 Home Premium/Professional OS install disc from?
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MubbyRigelYou would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'd overwrite your drive and lose any data on it.
Interesting.
Would this include programs, and important stuff the computer needs to actually run?

Windows comes with everything that is needed for the computer to run. You'll be left with a bare-bones system and have to start from scratch. This means re-downloading all the programs you once had. If you have any important documents (perhaps stuff from school you need) store them on Dropbox or something before you proceed with the install.

You should be able to buy Windows from any online retail store that sells computer stuff (Newegg, Amazon, PCOutlet has it 13 dollars off right now if I recall correctly). Alternatively, Best Buy should still be selling copies. I'd recommend Windows 7, but you could go with Windows 8 if you'd like. Windows 10 will come as a free upgrade when it comes out to current owners of either Windows 7 or 8, so buying Windows Vista again at 64 bit would be less than ideal.

[quote=Mubby][quote=Rigel]You would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'd overwrite your drive and lose any data on it.[/quote]

Interesting.
Would this include programs, and important stuff the computer needs to actually run?[/quote]

Windows comes with everything that is needed for the computer to run. You'll be left with a bare-bones system and have to start from scratch. This means re-downloading all the programs you once had. If you have any important documents (perhaps stuff from school you need) store them on Dropbox or something before you proceed with the install.

You should be able to buy Windows from any online retail store that sells computer stuff (Newegg, Amazon, PCOutlet has it 13 dollars off right now if I recall correctly). Alternatively, Best Buy should still be selling copies. I'd recommend Windows 7, but you could go with Windows 8 if you'd like. Windows 10 will come as a free upgrade when it comes out to current owners of either Windows 7 or 8, so buying Windows Vista again at 64 bit would be less than ideal.
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RigelMubbyRigelYou would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'd overwrite your drive and lose any data on it.
Interesting.
Would this include programs, and important stuff the computer needs to actually run?

Windows comes with everything that is needed for the computer to run. You'll be left with a bare-bones system and have to start from scratch. This means re-downloading all the programs you once had. If you have any important documents (perhaps stuff from school you need) store them on Dropbox or something before you proceed with the install.

Alright, thanks that calms a lot of nerves.
Two new questions now.

1. What do I buy, a Installation disc or a product key? (I don't know the difference)
2. Is £20-30+ a good price for an installation disc or product key?
3. (Not a question but a statement, I think.) I've looked a little around eBay and I found a legit looking installation disc for around £30. I need to know if this is actually legit and if the price is good or not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Windows-7-Professional-64BIT-SP1-OEM-Full-Version-DVD-Product-Key-/131458105715?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e9b838173

Thanks again

EDIT: If anyone could find/know a good page where someone/some retailer is selling Windows 7 (Online or not) that'll be great. (Professional is the best one I think. I bet that is just up to personal opinion)

[quote=Rigel][quote=Mubby][quote=Rigel]You would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'd overwrite your drive and lose any data on it.[/quote]

Interesting.
Would this include programs, and important stuff the computer needs to actually run?[/quote]

Windows comes with everything that is needed for the computer to run. You'll be left with a bare-bones system and have to start from scratch. This means re-downloading all the programs you once had. If you have any important documents (perhaps stuff from school you need) store them on Dropbox or something before you proceed with the install.[/quote]

Alright, thanks that calms a lot of nerves.
Two new questions now.

1. What do I buy, a Installation disc or a product key? (I don't know the difference)
2. Is £20-30+ a good price for an installation disc or product key?
3. (Not a question but a statement, I think.) I've looked a little around eBay and I found a legit looking installation disc for around £30. I need to know if this is actually legit and if the price is good or not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Windows-7-Professional-64BIT-SP1-OEM-Full-Version-DVD-Product-Key-/131458105715?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e9b838173

Thanks again

EDIT: If anyone could find/know a good page where someone/some retailer is selling Windows 7 (Online or not) that'll be great. (Professional is the best one I think. I bet that is just up to personal opinion)
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MubbyRigelMubbyRigelYou would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'd overwrite your drive and lose any data on it.
Interesting.
Would this include programs, and important stuff the computer needs to actually run?

Windows comes with everything that is needed for the computer to run. You'll be left with a bare-bones system and have to start from scratch. This means re-downloading all the programs you once had. If you have any important documents (perhaps stuff from school you need) store them on Dropbox or something before you proceed with the install.

Alright, thanks that calms a lot of nerves.
Two new questions now.

1. What do I by, a Installation disc or a product key? (I don't know the difference)
2. Is £20-30+ a good price for an installation disc or product key?
3. (Not a question but a statement, I think.) I've looked a little around eBay and I found a legit looking installation disc for around £30. I need to know if this is actually legit and if the price is good or not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Windows-7-Professional-64BIT-SP1-OEM-Full-Version-DVD-Product-Key-/131458105715?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e9b838173

Thanks again

1. If you buy an installation disc, you get the product key as well, but if you buy a product key, you'll need to get the system .iso disc file from Microsoft and install using this
2. Not sure.
3. I don't think people are selling fake discs, I know people are selling cracked Windows as legit one though

[quote=Mubby][quote=Rigel][quote=Mubby][quote=Rigel]You would need to buy a 64bit version of Windows. You can install it on your current PC. As with any install of an OS, you'd overwrite your drive and lose any data on it.[/quote]

Interesting.
Would this include programs, and important stuff the computer needs to actually run?[/quote]

Windows comes with everything that is needed for the computer to run. You'll be left with a bare-bones system and have to start from scratch. This means re-downloading all the programs you once had. If you have any important documents (perhaps stuff from school you need) store them on Dropbox or something before you proceed with the install.[/quote]

Alright, thanks that calms a lot of nerves.
Two new questions now.

1. What do I by, a Installation disc or a product key? (I don't know the difference)
2. Is £20-30+ a good price for an installation disc or product key?
3. (Not a question but a statement, I think.) I've looked a little around eBay and I found a legit looking installation disc for around £30. I need to know if this is actually legit and if the price is good or not.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Windows-7-Professional-64BIT-SP1-OEM-Full-Version-DVD-Product-Key-/131458105715?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e9b838173

Thanks again[/quote]

1. If you buy an installation disc, you get the product key as well, but if you buy a product key, you'll need to get the system .iso disc file from Microsoft and install using this
2. Not sure.
3. I don't think people are selling fake discs, I know people are selling cracked Windows as legit one though
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The disc (or flash drive if you go this route) itself is necessary for the installation. It contains the files required for the actual installation of Windows. The product key is usually printed on the box itself. You have to manually enter it during the installation of Windows.

If you had an installation disc, you could buy a product key. However, I wouldn't trust purchasing a product key off eBay. The product key is checked once you get an internet connection on your machine. If its invalid or already taken, you're going to run into more problems.

I'm not too experienced with doing things this way so I'll refrain from any more comment on that subject.

The disc (or flash drive if you go this route) itself is necessary for the installation. It contains the files required for the actual installation of Windows. The product key is usually printed on the box itself. You have to manually enter it during the installation of Windows.

If you had an installation disc, you could buy a product key. However, I wouldn't trust purchasing a product key off eBay. The product key is checked once you get an internet connection on your machine. If its invalid or already taken, you're going to run into more problems.

I'm not too experienced with doing things this way so I'll refrain from any more comment on that subject.
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RigelThe disc (or flash drive if you go this route) itself is necessary for the installation. It contains the files required for the actual installation of Windows. The product key is usually printed on the box itself. You have to manually enter it during the installation of Windows.

If you had an installation disc, you could buy a product key. However, I wouldn't trust purchasing a product key off eBay. The product key is checked once you get an internet connection on your machine. If its invalid or already taken, you're going to run into more problems.

I'm not too experienced with doing things this way so I'll refrain from any more comment on that subject.

Ok, I know what I need to do now.
I just need to find a installation disc that I know I can use and is cheap so, if anyone wants to help.
Thenks :3

[quote=Rigel]The disc (or flash drive if you go this route) itself is necessary for the installation. It contains the files required for the actual installation of Windows. The product key is usually printed on the box itself. You have to manually enter it during the installation of Windows.

If you had an installation disc, you could buy a product key. However, I wouldn't trust purchasing a product key off eBay. The product key is checked once you get an internet connection on your machine. If its invalid or already taken, you're going to run into more problems.

I'm not too experienced with doing things this way so I'll refrain from any more comment on that subject.[/quote]

Ok, I know what I need to do now.
I just need to find a installation disc that I know I can use and is cheap so, if anyone wants to help.
Thenks :3
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DDM afaik isn't anything unique, it's just a strange way of saying RAM and it might be a format to the ram specifically.

Professional is all you'll ever need, since ultimate is stupid and enterprise is not really worth the price for consumers. If you REALLY want encryption, there are software solutions to it that are just more economical. The other features of enterprise and ultimate aren't useful for you.

DDM afaik isn't anything unique, it's just a strange way of saying RAM and it might be a format to the ram specifically.

Professional is all you'll ever need, since ultimate is stupid and enterprise is not really worth the price for consumers. If you REALLY want encryption, there are software solutions to it that are just more economical. The other features of enterprise and ultimate aren't useful for you.
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Pirate windows7 and get windows 10 for free

Pirate windows7 and get windows 10 for free
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I found this,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Windows-Professional-Refurbisched-Hologramm-Servicepack/dp/B00N9VE9CC/ref=sr_1_2?s=software&ie=UTF8&qid=1431888424&sr=1-2&keywords=windows+7+64+bit

Is this good or not?

I found this,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Windows-Professional-Refurbisched-Hologramm-Servicepack/dp/B00N9VE9CC/ref=sr_1_2?s=software&ie=UTF8&qid=1431888424&sr=1-2&keywords=windows+7+64+bit

Is this good or not?
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http://www.downloadmoreram.com/ xd

http://www.downloadmoreram.com/ xd
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Joradnhttp://www.downloadmoreram.com/ xd

haha
:)

[quote=Joradn]http://www.downloadmoreram.com/ xd[/quote]

haha
:)
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Holy crap 12 years old and like this? Damn i'm impressed

Holy crap 12 years old and like this? Damn i'm impressed
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Ok, first things first:
What made you think you need more RAM?
I don't want to rain on your parade but that pc is 7 or 8 years old. There's a lot more to CPUs than cores and clockrate, but I won't go into that. What I'm trying to say is 3GB is perfectly adequate for that CPU, you'd have trouble running anything that'd need more than 3GB. Even today most games won't even need 4GB. TF2's from 2007 aswell and won't even use 1GB, rather around 600MB.

If you actually need more RAM then the next thing is to find what you currently have.
You'll also want to know what motherboard you got.
You can use CPU-Z for both.
http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.72-en.exe
Just download it, put it on a USB-Stick and the install it on that pc.

You want the motherboard and memory tabs. Check in the SPD tab how many slots you have and how many are in use.
And please take screenshots, don't take photos of the screen.

The problem is that the Q6600 can use either DDR2 or DDR3. It depends on what your motherboard is capable of. DDR2 is obsolete and hard to find these days. You can't mix them, so if you mobo can handle DDR3 it'd be best to replace it. Same if all slots are full, you'd have to replace the memory since you can't add any more.

Ok, first things first:
What made you think you need more RAM?
I don't want to rain on your parade but that pc is 7 or 8 years old. There's a lot more to CPUs than cores and clockrate, but I won't go into that. What I'm trying to say is 3GB is perfectly adequate for that CPU, you'd have trouble running anything that'd need more than 3GB. Even today most games won't even need 4GB. TF2's from 2007 aswell and won't even use 1GB, rather around 600MB.

If you actually need more RAM then the next thing is to find what you currently have.
You'll also want to know what motherboard you got.
You can use CPU-Z for both.
http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.72-en.exe
Just download it, put it on a USB-Stick and the install it on that pc.

You want the motherboard and memory tabs. Check in the SPD tab how many slots you have and how many are in use.
And please take screenshots, don't take photos of the screen.

The problem is that the Q6600 can use either DDR2 or DDR3. It depends on what your motherboard is capable of. DDR2 is obsolete and hard to find these days. You can't mix them, so if you mobo can handle DDR3 it'd be best to replace it. Same if all slots are full, you'd have to replace the memory since you can't add any more.
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Johny_16_Holy crap 12 years old and like this? Damn i'm impressed

Wow thanks! :)

[quote=Johny_16_]Holy crap 12 years old and like this? Damn i'm impressed[/quote]

Wow thanks! :)
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PurePirate windows7 and get windows 10 for free

How?
Also, why?

[quote=Pure]Pirate windows7 and get windows 10 for free[/quote]

How?
Also, why?
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MubbyPurePirate windows7 and get windows 10 for free
How?
Also, why?

Microsoft will allow everyone to upgrade to win10, but you aren't going to get a legal version of OS, if you have a pirated OS.

“With Windows 10, although non-Genuine PCs may be able to upgrade to Windows 10, the upgrade will not change the genuine state of the license. Non-Genuine Windows is not published by Microsoft. It is not properly licensed, or supported by Microsoft or a trusted partner. If a device was considered non-genuine or mis-licensed prior to the upgrade, that device will continue to be considered non-genuine or mis-licensed after the upgrade.” says Microsoft.
Source

[quote=Mubby][quote=Pure]Pirate windows7 and get windows 10 for free[/quote]

How?
Also, why?[/quote]

Microsoft will allow everyone to upgrade to win10, but you aren't going to get a legal version of OS, if you have a pirated OS.

“With Windows 10, although non-Genuine PCs may be able to upgrade to Windows 10, [b]the upgrade will not change the genuine state of the license[/b]. Non-Genuine Windows is not published by Microsoft. It is not properly licensed, or supported by Microsoft or a trusted partner. If a device was considered non-genuine or mis-licensed prior to the upgrade, that device will continue to be considered non-genuine or mis-licensed after the upgrade.” says Microsoft.
[url=https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/2190/sorry-microsoft-is-not-giving-free-windows-10-to-pirates]Source[/url]
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PotatovMubbyPurePirate windows7 and get windows 10 for free
How?
Also, why?

Microsoft will allow everyone to upgrade to win10, but you aren't going to get a legal version of OS, if you have a pirated OS.

“With Windows 10, although non-Genuine PCs may be able to upgrade to Windows 10, the upgrade will not change the genuine state of the license. Non-Genuine Windows is not published by Microsoft. It is not properly licensed, or supported by Microsoft or a trusted partner. If a device was considered non-genuine or mis-licensed prior to the upgrade, that device will continue to be considered non-genuine or mis-licensed after the upgrade.” says Microsoft.
Source

I don't even want to Pirate it anyways. Good statements doe

[quote=Potatov][quote=Mubby][quote=Pure]Pirate windows7 and get windows 10 for free[/quote]

How?
Also, why?[/quote]

Microsoft will allow everyone to upgrade to win10, but you aren't going to get a legal version of OS, if you have a pirated OS.

“With Windows 10, although non-Genuine PCs may be able to upgrade to Windows 10, [b]the upgrade will not change the genuine state of the license[/b]. Non-Genuine Windows is not published by Microsoft. It is not properly licensed, or supported by Microsoft or a trusted partner. If a device was considered non-genuine or mis-licensed prior to the upgrade, that device will continue to be considered non-genuine or mis-licensed after the upgrade.” says Microsoft.
[url=https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/2190/sorry-microsoft-is-not-giving-free-windows-10-to-pirates]Source[/url][/quote]

I don't even want to Pirate it anyways. Good statements doe
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