When mommy and daddy yell at each other, I can't hear my pornography.
Rainman and Gargle were both extremely nice to me. For the most part, I believe I'm speaking for the entire team when saying that you guys were in the corner going at it in an ookie cookie while the rest of us were just smokin and strokin in a circle. You guys shoulda just shared the cookie and joined in on the rest of us and we would still have our original roster like everybody wanted.
Rainman and Gargle were both extremely nice to me. For the most part, I believe I'm speaking for the entire team when saying that you guys were in the corner going at it in an ookie cookie while the rest of us were just smokin and strokin in a circle. You guys shoulda just shared the cookie and joined in on the rest of us and we would still have our original roster like everybody wanted.
from what I can tell, it seems like gargle was the one who was the source of a lot of the problems when as team leader he should have been the one to fix them. Rainman's a really nice guy... I have no idea how he wouldn't be able to get along with anyone... and he's also got pretty good dm cuz he does bball.
tldr
gargle was whiny
rainman didn't like that and tried to get everyone to mutiny him with lies behind his back
nobody actually wanted to so they told gargle
gargle cut him from his team
I rang for them after and they all seemed to be getting along a lot better after Rainman left and everyone forgot about the situation
gargle was whiny
rainman didn't like that and tried to get everyone to mutiny him with lies behind his back
nobody actually wanted to so they told gargle
gargle cut him from his team
I rang for them after and they all seemed to be getting along a lot better after Rainman left and everyone forgot about the situation
who the fuck are all these people and why do they care so much about some low open team
Rainmanlong text
At the time when I said I didn't care about the team I was frustrated about the whole situation. We just got 5-0'd morale was lost and everyone was fighting as usual. If you haven't noticed the only time I say shit like that is when our team just starts fighting and not acting like how a team should.
As for hating you, sorry, maybe I shouldn't of said it in front of the team but I don't enjoy playing with you and I didn't see how I could spend a season playing with you.
Also I don't know if my mic cut out or some shit the reason why I wanted to stay on the team wasn't just because of matlock. I talk to griff alot and I enjoy playing with him, albongs a funny and nice guys. It was basically you and framesh1ft were the only people I genuinely disliked playing with but after discussing with him his morale problems and about where I wanted to take the team hes gotten better and I think he actually enjoys playing with us more now and I enjoy playing with him and everyone on the team now which was something I couldn't say before.
Also about the criticism thing, I know I didn't take it lightly. You talked to me about not over extending and staying alive more at first and I accepted it as a problem because I know its been a problem with me for a while now. The fact that you constantly micro manage'd me and said it was a problem after every scrim was the thing that annoys me. Sometimes you even complained about it during the scrim which is when I'd usually start bitching my self.
Also do you think I'd repeatedly tell you that your retarded and that i wanted to play roamer while being serious? My team name last season was gargles meme squad for fuck sakes. I did think some of your ideas were dumb at times but I was still open to hearing them and giving my output to them and if you didn't like my output to them then you shouldn't have told me the idea anyway. I was fine with whatever you wanted to try when I state that I didn't like the idea that just means that in my opinion I didn't think it was a great idea it shouldn't of stopped the other 5 of you from doing said thing it. Also a lot of times I didn't think they were bad ideas its just the way you wanted to execute it was bad.
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At the time when I said I didn't care about the team I was frustrated about the whole situation. We just got 5-0'd morale was lost and everyone was fighting as usual. If you haven't noticed the only time I say shit like that is when our team just starts fighting and not acting like how a team should.
As for hating you, sorry, maybe I shouldn't of said it in front of the team but I don't enjoy playing with you and I didn't see how I could spend a season playing with you.
Also I don't know if my mic cut out or some shit the reason why I wanted to stay on the team wasn't just because of matlock. I talk to griff alot and I enjoy playing with him, albongs a funny and nice guys. It was basically you and framesh1ft were the only people I genuinely disliked playing with but after discussing with him his morale problems and about where I wanted to take the team hes gotten better and I think he actually enjoys playing with us more now and I enjoy playing with him and everyone on the team now which was something I couldn't say before.
Also about the criticism thing, I know I didn't take it lightly. You talked to me about not over extending and staying alive more at first and I accepted it as a problem because I know its been a problem with me for a while now. The fact that you constantly micro manage'd me and said it was a problem after every scrim was the thing that annoys me. Sometimes you even complained about it during the scrim which is when I'd usually start bitching my self.
Also do you think I'd repeatedly tell you that your retarded and that i wanted to play roamer while being serious? My team name last season was gargles meme squad for fuck sakes. I did think some of your ideas were dumb at times but I was still open to hearing them and giving my output to them and if you didn't like my output to them then you shouldn't have told me the idea anyway. I was fine with whatever you wanted to try when I state that I didn't like the idea that just means that in my opinion I didn't think it was a great idea it shouldn't of stopped the other 5 of you from doing said thing it. Also a lot of times I didn't think they were bad ideas its just the way you wanted to execute it was bad.
also your posting logs from metalworks week which isnt really relevant to the whole mutiny bullshit but w/e
was a kind person in the few tryouts with him
idk where the whole thing about not respecting people came up because he pretty much let me maincall as scout for multiple scrims and gave constructive criticism to me when he thought i was doing something wrong and was never a dick about anything
hope u find a good team rainman ! ! !
idk where the whole thing about not respecting people came up because he pretty much let me maincall as scout for multiple scrims and gave constructive criticism to me when he thought i was doing something wrong and was never a dick about anything
hope u find a good team rainman ! ! !
he was always nice to me before the season started, prolly still is a nice guy. gl pallllllllll
Rainmangargleburry*snip*
First, I agree that we never got along, even from the beginning. That's one of the reasons why I knew I couldn't play with you. Just wasn't going to work.
Second, I never thought that you were a shitty player. We all make mistakes. No biggie. But what I was frustrated with was your shitty attitude approaching any problems that you had. You never wanted to fix any of your or the team's problems. When I said that you should come back because you had a tendency to overextend, you local muted me. When this became a larger issue and the team got involved, you muted yourself and would eave mumble. Another example is when your maincalling wasn't working out and we told griff to maincall instead of you. What did you do? Were you mature and sensible person? No, you stopped talking completely and were a child, insisting: "Well you told me not to call, so I'm not going to say anything." Tell me, what kind of leader does that kind of thing?
rainman: and weve played according to your calls before
rainman: and we get destroyed by teams
rainman: that we dont know how to face
rainman: because we have one playstyle
gargleburry: rainman
gargleburry: do whatever the fuck you want
gargleburry: ive stopped caring about this team if you havn't noticed
gargleburry: i dont give a shit about improving
gargleburry: because you and frame have horrible ideas
gargleburry: and you guys dont listen to me
gargleburry: so ya
I don't think I take this game too seriously. Or maybe I just take everything that I do seriously. But my ideology is:"If you're going to do something, why not do it well?" I just want to improve. But you, on the other hand, would rather keep banging your head into the wall over and over again as a strategy doesn't work solely for the pursuit of "fun". The way I have fun is getting better at something. It's just simple.
Albert Einstein“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”
You refused to listen to anything that I had to say, and you just summed it up to I had shitty "steel attitude" ideas. (even though I played steel like 2 years ago and at the same time you did rofl)
gargleburry Rainman thought that making playoffs was "easy" which probably triggered all this try harding.
Ok so for this, I participate in cross country, a really mentally-taxing sport. I probably shouldn't have done it, but I brought that attitude into other things that I do. I try to be confident with everything that I do. The difference between cockiness and confidence is that being cocky is saying: "I'm so good that playoffs will be so easy for me" and confidence is saying: "This task is attainable and to convince myself of that, I'm going to believe that we can achieve it." Furthermore, my team that I scrapped together last season was able to beat a low playoffs team, so that probably skewed my perspective.
gargleburry On top of this he had this urge to bitch about everything that our team was doing wrong or what he thought was wrong during the games and some of us were sick of this.
Once again, not "bitching". I brought up problems only to fix them. I never once complained about us having them. Is it so wrong to bring up what I think we need to fix?
Finally, ah the mutiny. This is actually really ironic because you were going to cut me earlier in the season for aiera (lol how did that situation work out now?). In that case, you were frustrated with my attitude and you wanted to get rid of me behind my back.
To premise, I was already very fed up with his antics, after conversations ending with:
rainman: we are never on the same page
rainman: when we play
rainman: dont you see that
gargleburry: cuz ur fucking retarded
Well the night before all this happened, we were losing another scrim and we were all frustrated. But suddenly you chose to call me a faggot and commented on my shitty playstyle or whatever. So then we lose and then you were trying to piss me off or something, it was really weird. Like you were intentionally saying: "You're a shitty roamer" or stuff. Idk, maybe it's just another one of your lame memes. I left mumble after the scrim because I didn't want to deal with you shittalking frameshift and me anymore. So then you pursue me with messages like:
gargleburry: CAN I PLAY ROAMER
So I was done. At this point, no one was happy with how you dealt with problems, sucked griff's dick by encouraging his singing and asking of dollars just to start the game, and was an overall asshole. Albong and I had discussed leaving or being cut before but we never acted on it.
albong: hey
albong: not trolling
albong: and u better not tell him i told u this
albong: but gargle literally said that he hated you
albong: and he doesn't give a shit about the team anymore
albong: and he wants to leave the team
albong: and matlock is the only reason he isn't leaving the team
rainman: what
rainman: wtf
rainman: repost please
albong: ?
rainman: why does he hate me lol
rainman: does he just hate anyone who opposes him?
rainman: bc he loved griff before
rainman: until he said something
rainman: If he really hates us that much
rainman: Why is he staying
albong: because of matlock
albong: he says
albong: idk that didn't make sense to me
rainman: Well just find another demo
rainman: Does he hate you too9
rainman: ?
albong: i have no idea
albong: i don't think he hates me
albong: but idk if he likes me
albong: idk i don't think we should say anything
albong: i think basically if he wants to leave then we find another demo
Apparently frameshift would go into tanner's csgo mumble and shit talk how he hates being on the team and how being on it killed him. In griff's case, he said that he might leave anyways after I suggested the idea of a mutiny.
rainman: would you be in?
griff: i think i shouldn't be playing with you guys
griff: too
rainman: why?
griff: i can never take it how i should be taking it
griff: usually something goes wrong
griff: or i just dont do it
rainman: i mean, that's fine. if things just dont work out
rainman: it's no big deal if you dont play
rainman: with us
griff: i'll see how it goes without gargle
griff: and if its not better i'll leave when you find another pocket
To me, it seemed like 4 people were in. So I talked to Not_Matlock and I don't have the chat log for this one but he said that if everyone else was in, he would rather be in instead of killing the team. We even discussed plans after. So that's how I got 5.
I also didn't post what they said because I didn't want to ruin their status on the team if they wanted to stay after all. Personally, I didn't care, as long as I didn't have to play with you anymore.
fucking slammed
First, I agree that we never got along, even from the beginning. That's one of the reasons why I knew I couldn't play with you. Just wasn't going to work.
Second, I never thought that you were a shitty player. We all make mistakes. No biggie. But what I was frustrated with was your shitty attitude approaching any problems that you had. You never wanted to fix any of your or the team's problems. When I said that you should come back because you had a tendency to overextend, you local muted me. When this became a larger issue and the team got involved, you muted yourself and would eave mumble. Another example is when your maincalling wasn't working out and we told griff to maincall instead of you. What did you do? Were you mature and sensible person? No, you stopped talking completely and were a child, insisting: "Well you told me not to call, so I'm not going to say anything." Tell me, what kind of leader does that kind of thing?
[quote]
rainman: and weve played according to your calls before
rainman: and we get destroyed by teams
rainman: that we dont know how to face
rainman: because we have one playstyle
gargleburry: rainman
gargleburry: do whatever the fuck you want
gargleburry: ive stopped caring about this team if you havn't noticed
gargleburry: i dont give a shit about improving
gargleburry: because you and frame have horrible ideas
gargleburry: and you guys dont listen to me
gargleburry: so ya[/quote]
I don't think I take this game too seriously. Or maybe I just take everything that I do seriously. But my ideology is:"If you're going to do something, why not do it well?" I just want to improve. But you, on the other hand, would rather keep banging your head into the wall over and over again as a strategy doesn't work solely for the pursuit of "fun". The way I have fun is getting better at something. It's just simple.
[quote=Albert Einstein]“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results” [/quote]
You refused to listen to anything that I had to say, and you just summed it up to I had shitty "steel attitude" ideas. (even though I played steel like 2 years ago and at the same time you did rofl)
[quote=gargleburry] Rainman thought that making playoffs was "easy" which probably triggered all this try harding.
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Ok so for this, I participate in cross country, a really mentally-taxing sport. I probably shouldn't have done it, but I brought that attitude into other things that I do. I try to be confident with everything that I do. The difference between cockiness and confidence is that being cocky is saying: "I'm so good that playoffs will be so easy for me" and confidence is saying: "This task is attainable and to convince myself of that, I'm going to believe that we can achieve it." Furthermore, my team that I scrapped together last season was able to beat a low playoffs team, so that probably skewed my perspective.
[quote=gargleburry] On top of this he had this urge to bitch about everything that our team was doing wrong or what he thought was wrong during the games and some of us were sick of this.
[/quote]
Once again, not "bitching". I brought up problems only to fix them. I never once complained about us having them. Is it so wrong to bring up what I think we need to fix?
Finally, ah the mutiny. This is actually really ironic because you were going to cut me earlier in the season for aiera (lol how did that situation work out now?). In that case, you were frustrated with my attitude and you wanted to get rid of me behind my back.
To premise, I was already very fed up with his antics, after conversations ending with:
[quote]
rainman: we are never on the same page
rainman: when we play
rainman: dont you see that
gargleburry: cuz ur fucking retarded[/quote]
Well the night before all this happened, we were losing another scrim and we were all frustrated. But suddenly you chose to call me a faggot and commented on my shitty playstyle or whatever. So then we lose and then you were trying to piss me off or something, it was really weird. Like you were intentionally saying: "You're a shitty roamer" or stuff. Idk, maybe it's just another one of your lame memes. I left mumble after the scrim because I didn't want to deal with you shittalking frameshift and me anymore. So then you pursue me with messages like:
[quote]gargleburry: CAN I PLAY ROAMER [/quote]
So I was done. At this point, no one was happy with how you dealt with problems, sucked griff's dick by encouraging his singing and asking of dollars just to start the game, and was an overall asshole. Albong and I had discussed leaving or being cut before but we never acted on it.
[quote]albong: hey
albong: not trolling
albong: and u better not tell him i told u this
albong: but gargle literally said that he hated you
albong: and he doesn't give a shit about the team anymore
albong: and he wants to leave the team
albong: and matlock is the only reason he isn't leaving the team
rainman: what
rainman: wtf
rainman: repost please
albong: ?
rainman: why does he hate me lol
rainman: does he just hate anyone who opposes him?
rainman: bc he loved griff before
rainman: until he said something
rainman: If he really hates us that much
rainman: Why is he staying
albong: because of matlock
albong: he says
albong: idk that didn't make sense to me
rainman: Well just find another demo
rainman: Does he hate you too9
rainman: ?
albong: i have no idea
albong: i don't think he hates me
albong: but idk if he likes me
albong: idk i don't think we should say anything
albong: i think basically if he wants to leave then we find another demo[/quote]
Apparently frameshift would go into tanner's csgo mumble and shit talk how he hates being on the team and how being on it killed him. In griff's case, he said that he might leave anyways after I suggested the idea of a mutiny.
[quote]
rainman: would you be in?
griff: i think i shouldn't be playing with you guys
griff: too
rainman: why?
griff: i can never take it how i should be taking it
griff: usually something goes wrong
griff: or i just dont do it
rainman: i mean, that's fine. if things just dont work out
rainman: it's no big deal if you dont play
rainman: with us
griff: i'll see how it goes without gargle
griff: and if its not better i'll leave when you find another pocket
[/quote]
To me, it seemed like 4 people were in. So I talked to Not_Matlock and I don't have the chat log for this one but he said that if everyone else was in, he would rather be in instead of killing the team. We even discussed plans after. So that's how I got 5.
I also didn't post what they said because I didn't want to ruin their status on the team if they wanted to stay after all. Personally, I didn't care, as long as I didn't have to play with you anymore.[/quote]
fucking slammed
doesn't cereal have his own team to worry about instead of making rumors to create drama?
rainman is a pretty decent player who could probably hold his own on a playoffs team next season (or maybe this season!!!)
I'm gonna make an educated guess and say that both rainman and gargleberry are, at absolute most, 17 years old, and probably less
please confirm or deny this fact
please confirm or deny this fact
mustardoverlordI'm gonna make an educated guess and say that both rainman and gargleberry are, at absolute most, 17 years old, and probably less
please confirm or deny this fact
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