I've run into a bit of a predicament. Recently, I picked up a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770's. My previous cans that I've used for the past couple years are the Audio Technica AD700's, which have an open-air design. This allows you to hear yourself when you talk. The DT 770's are incredible, but the only gaming-related problem with them is they're a closed design. They isolate sound very well, and this makes it difficult to accurately hear yourself. I've searched around and people suggest to go into Control Panel and check "Listen to Device" under Sound, but this has three downfalls: it's barely noticeable in game, my Blue Yeti mic picks up a lot of background noise, and the sound comes in at a slight delay.
I'm hoping somebody has encountered the same problem and has a specific solution. Namely, the ability to hear yourself talk in Mumble only when using your push to talk, in real time, and as others would hear you.
Thanks!
I've run into a bit of a predicament. Recently, I picked up a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770's. My previous cans that I've used for the past couple years are the Audio Technica AD700's, which have an open-air design. This allows you to hear yourself when you talk. The DT 770's are incredible, but the only gaming-related problem with them is they're a closed design. They isolate sound very well, and this makes it difficult to accurately hear yourself. I've searched around and people suggest to go into Control Panel and check "Listen to Device" under Sound, but this has three downfalls: it's barely noticeable in game, my Blue Yeti mic picks up a lot of background noise, and the sound comes in at a slight delay.
I'm hoping somebody has encountered the same problem and has a specific solution. Namely, the ability to hear yourself talk in Mumble only when using your push to talk, in real time, and as others would hear you.
Thanks!
go to your audio output settings in mumble and set loopback to "server"
edit: if you can't find audio output, make sure "advanced" is checked
go to your audio output settings in mumble and set loopback to "server"
edit: if you can't find audio output, make sure "advanced" is checked
Frothmingo to your audio output settings in mumble and set loopback to "server"
edit: if you can't find audio output, make sure "advanced" is checked
Server loopback will have a delay, which he's trying to avoid. Try local, although that should still have the processing delay and doesn't work for me.
[quote=Frothmin]go to your audio output settings in mumble and set loopback to "server"
edit: if you can't find audio output, make sure "advanced" is checked[/quote]
Server loopback will have a delay, which he's trying to avoid. Try local, although that should still have the processing delay and doesn't work for me.
Thank you for your help, Frothmin and Kenneth. Server loopback does have a delay, but Local seems to have less. I'll play around with it and see how it goes. If anyone else has other suggestions I'd appreciate those too.
Thank you for your help, Frothmin and Kenneth. Server loopback does have a delay, but Local seems to have less. I'll play around with it and see how it goes. If anyone else has other suggestions I'd appreciate those too.
I've looked into this a few times and from what I found it was usually pretty hard to get working, if not impossible depending on your hardware. From what I remember it is generally required to either have a hardware solution, or use an ASIO driver in conjunction with some other software. I eventually gave up because I could never make it work with low-latency.
Oh, and from what I remember ASIO is something that basically hijacks an audio stream. What this means is that it is only capable of playing audio from a single source.
I've looked into this a few times and from what I found it was usually pretty hard to get working, if not impossible depending on your hardware. From what I remember it is generally required to either have a hardware solution, or use an ASIO driver in conjunction with some other software. I eventually gave up because I could never make it work with low-latency.
Oh, and from what I remember ASIO is something that basically hijacks an audio stream. What this means is that it is only capable of playing audio from a single source.
If you have a blue yeti there might be an output on the microphone itself for self-monitoring. Might just be a feature on the yeti pro though.
If you have a blue yeti there might be an output on the microphone itself for self-monitoring. Might just be a feature on the yeti pro though.
I know it's not helping, but why did you get closed headphones if you wanted open headphones?
I know it's not helping, but why did you get closed headphones if you wanted open headphones?
he didn't realize how much not hearing himself talk would mess with his ability to not sound like a mouth breathing monkey
he didn't realize how much not hearing himself talk would mess with his ability to not sound like a mouth breathing monkey
Air_he didn't realize how much not hearing himself talk would mess with his ability to not sound like a mouth breathing monkey
rofl, well said.
i ran into the same issue as rainy when i bought a closed headset.
i think closed suck compared to open, even when not using a mike.
(i do have in-earphones because you don't really have a choice, outdoors.)
[quote=Air_]he didn't realize how much not hearing himself talk would mess with his ability to not sound like a mouth breathing monkey[/quote]
rofl, well said.
i ran into the same issue as rainy when i bought a closed headset.
i think closed suck compared to open, even when not using a mike.
(i do have in-earphones because you don't really have a choice, outdoors.)
Well I guess now you know why buying headphones blind isn't a good idea.
Well I guess now you know why buying headphones blind isn't a good idea.
This might work: http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-2120882/create-good-side-tone-microphone-headphones.html
I wouldn't recommend using asio drivers, they usually end up causing a lot of problems.
Probably not helpful but my logitech sound drivers have an option to listen to yourself with no delay, but afaik they don't work with other devices.
This might work: http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-2120882/create-good-side-tone-microphone-headphones.html
I wouldn't recommend using asio drivers, they usually end up causing a lot of problems.
Probably not helpful but my logitech sound drivers have an option to listen to yourself with no delay, but afaik they don't work with other devices.
DavidTheWinIf you have a blue yeti there might be an output on the microphone itself for self-monitoring. Might just be a feature on the yeti pro though.
There is, yup. How would this work? Could I still hear the game audio in my headphones?
SetsulI know it's not helping, but why did you get closed headphones if you wanted open headphones?
I never said I did. I still have, and will use, my old pair of open-air Audio Technica's if need be. I wanted the Beyerdynamic's because of the bass that open-air headphones lack.
Air_he didn't realize how much not hearing himself talk would mess with his ability to not sound like a mouth breathing monkey
Air has mastered the art of farming +frags at my expense. It's something he takes great pride in.
SetsulWell I guess now you know why buying headphones blind isn't a good idea.
I didn't buy them blind. You should stop assuming, that's twice now.
joejoe347This might work: http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-2120882/create-good-side-tone-microphone-headphones.html
I wouldn't recommend using asio drivers, they usually end up causing a lot of problems.
Probably not helpful but my logitech sound drivers have an option to listen to yourself with no delay, but afaik they don't work with other devices.
Thanks Joe, I'll look into that thread.
[quote=DavidTheWin]If you have a blue yeti there might be an output on the microphone itself for self-monitoring. Might just be a feature on the yeti pro though.[/quote]
There is, yup. How would this work? Could I still hear the game audio in my headphones?
[quote=Setsul]I know it's not helping, but why did you get closed headphones if you wanted open headphones?[/quote]
I never said I did. I still have, and will use, my old pair of open-air Audio Technica's if need be. I wanted the Beyerdynamic's because of the bass that open-air headphones lack.
[quote=Air_]he didn't realize how much not hearing himself talk would mess with his ability to not sound like a mouth breathing monkey[/quote]
Air has mastered the art of farming +frags at my expense. It's something he takes great pride in.
[quote=Setsul]Well I guess now you know why buying headphones blind isn't a good idea.[/quote]
I didn't buy them blind. You should stop assuming, that's twice now.
[quote=joejoe347]This might work: http://www.tomsguide.com/answers/id-2120882/create-good-side-tone-microphone-headphones.html
I wouldn't recommend using asio drivers, they usually end up causing a lot of problems.
Probably not helpful but my logitech sound drivers have an option to listen to yourself with no delay, but afaik they don't work with other devices.[/quote]
Thanks Joe, I'll look into that thread.
rainyI didn't buy them blind. You should stop assuming, that's twice now.
So you actually listened to them beforehand?
Well shame on me for assuming otherwise then.
rainyI never said I did. I still have, and will use, my old pair of open-air Audio Technica's if need be. I wanted the Beyerdynamic's because of the bass that open-air headphones lack.
I'm sorry but I still don't understand. In what world do closed headphones have better bass? Hell, in what world are closed headphones better than open headphones at anything except isolation?
I mean look at this graph:
http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=-1&graphID[]=2131&graphID[]=2751&graphID[]=2241&scale=15
You definitely didn't choose the DT770s over the DT990s for more bass, because that's not the case.
http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=3&graphID[]=2131&graphID[]=2751&graphID[]=2241&scale=15
Large driver movement (aka bass) getting choked on the DT770s by the pressure buildup inside the isolation, as it is expected for closed headphones. So it's not better bass either.
There are few legitimate reasons to chose the DT770s over open headphones if not only you don't need the isolation, but it's actually a drawback for you.
EDIT: I assumed (I know, I know) that you meant open-back with "open-air".
[quote=rainy]I didn't buy them blind. You should stop assuming, that's twice now.[/quote]
So you actually listened to them beforehand?
Well shame on me for assuming otherwise then.
[quote=rainy]I never said I did. I still have, and will use, my old pair of open-air Audio Technica's if need be. I wanted the Beyerdynamic's because of the bass that open-air headphones lack.
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I'm sorry but I still don't understand. In what world do closed headphones have better bass? Hell, in what world are closed headphones better than open headphones at anything except isolation?
I mean look at this graph:
[url=http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=-1&graphID%5B%5D=2131&graphID%5B%5D=2751&graphID%5B%5D=2241&scale=15]http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=-1&graphID[]=2131&graphID[]=2751&graphID[]=2241&scale=15[/url]
You definitely didn't choose the DT770s over the DT990s for more bass, because that's not the case.
[url=http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=3&graphID%5B%5D=2131&graphID%5B%5D=2751&graphID%5B%5D=2241&scale=15]http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=3&graphID[]=2131&graphID[]=2751&graphID[]=2241&scale=15[/url]
Large driver movement (aka bass) getting choked on the DT770s by the pressure buildup inside the isolation, as it is expected for closed headphones. So it's not better bass either.
There are few legitimate reasons to chose the DT770s over open headphones if not only you don't need the isolation, but it's actually a drawback for you.
EDIT: I assumed (I know, I know) that you meant open-back with "open-air".
rainyI wanted the Beyerdynamic's because of the bass that open-air headphones lack.
huh? there are plenty of open headphones that have a ton of bass, out there.
closed headphones just tend to make bass sound built-up (like having heavy bass from speakers/monitors in a small room), and often tend to make the lower frequencies cloud the rest of the frequencies.
i'd only suggest closed/in-ear to block out external sounds, but never for improvement in sound.
(isolation is a good reason, though. even a PC case or people/cars outside can be too much noise to really enjoy open headphones.)
anyway, hopefully the output on the microphone can be of some use.
but with some bad luck, you'd have to buy some hardware to get that working.
are your 770s plugged directly into your on-board soundcard, or are you using a stand-alone soundcard or even something external?
[quote=rainy]
I wanted the Beyerdynamic's because of the bass that open-air headphones lack.
[/quote]
huh? there are plenty of open headphones that have a ton of bass, out there.
closed headphones just tend to make bass sound built-up (like having heavy bass from speakers/monitors in a small room), and often tend to make the lower frequencies cloud the rest of the frequencies.
i'd only suggest closed/in-ear to block out external sounds, but never for improvement in sound.
(isolation is a good reason, though. even a PC case or people/cars outside can be too much noise to really enjoy open headphones.)
anyway, hopefully the output on the microphone can be of some use.
but with some bad luck, you'd have to buy some hardware to get that working.
are your 770s plugged directly into your on-board soundcard, or are you using a stand-alone soundcard or even something external?
My laptop is too broken that I can't even use the headphone and microphone jacks.
Greattt...
My laptop is too broken that I can't even use the headphone and microphone jacks.
Greattt...
Mubby i feel bad for you everything you own is broken :(
Mubby i feel bad for you everything you own is broken :(