I just wanted to get a feel for what kind of internet connections people use to play, and their experience with it in the context of gaming. It would be great to hear about steps you've taken to improve things and how they turned out, to help anyone else that may have similar issues.
I live in a fairly rural area of Minnesota and my ISP is Midcontinent Media. We get good speeds, but I get a ton of ping spikes of the kind where I simply can't move my character until it stops. Makes playing competitive really unfun when it acts up.
I'm going to try running a long-ass ethernet cable across the house to see if it's just the Wi-Fi, and if that works, I want to try putting a hole in the wall and getting an ethernet wall outlet thing for my room.
Speeds are honestly pretty great when the internet actually works:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4406787337.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/124384111.png
What's your setup, and how is it working out for you?
I just wanted to get a feel for what kind of internet connections people use to play, and their experience with it in the context of gaming. It would be great to hear about steps you've taken to improve things and how they turned out, to help anyone else that may have similar issues.
I live in a fairly rural area of Minnesota and my ISP is Midcontinent Media. We get good speeds, but I get a ton of ping spikes of the kind where I simply can't move my character until it stops. Makes playing competitive really unfun when it acts up.
I'm going to try running a long-ass ethernet cable across the house to see if it's just the Wi-Fi, and if that works, I want to try putting a hole in the wall and getting an ethernet wall outlet thing for my room.
Speeds are honestly pretty great when the internet actually works:
[img]http://www.speedtest.net/result/4406787337.png[/img]
[IMG]http://www.pingtest.net/result/124384111.png[/IMG]
What's your setup, and how is it working out for you?
this thread which has been made multiple times in the past ends with people showing off their fast speeds and/or a group of people complaining about bad internet speeds and bad internet companies
this thread which has been made multiple times in the past ends with people showing off their fast speeds and/or a group of people complaining about bad internet speeds and bad internet companies
smoboIt would be great to hear about steps you've taken to improve things and how they turned out, to help anyone else that may have similar issues
the only real issue I've ever run into (and know a lot of other people have run into) is cable modems having less than ideal signal levels; you can read about that on broadbandreports if you actually care, but my net got a million times better after I replaced all the cabling myself running from where our line comes into the house to where the modem is in my room. swapping out splits for power amps helps also pending how many times your signal gets split for tvs, phones, etc
[quote=smobo]It would be great to hear about steps you've taken to improve things and how they turned out, to help anyone else that may have similar issues[/quote]
the only real issue I've ever run into (and know a lot of other people have run into) is cable modems having less than ideal signal levels; you can read about that on broadbandreports if you actually care, but my net got a million times better after I replaced all the cabling myself running from where our line comes into the house to where the modem is in my room. swapping out splits for power amps helps also pending how many times your signal gets split for tvs, phones, etc
I play on verizon directly connected VIA ethernet, I get 10> ping on chicago servers and 50> to anything else
I play on verizon directly connected VIA ethernet, I get 10> ping on chicago servers and 50> to anything else
heh !
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4406998023.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/124388830.png
conductorsmoboIt would be great to hear about steps you've taken to improve things and how they turned out, to help anyone else that may have similar issues
the only real issue I've ever run into (and know a lot of other people have run into) is cable modems having less than ideal signal levels; you can read about that on broadbandreports if you actually care, but my net got a million times better after I replaced all the cabling myself running from where our line comes into the house to where the modem is in my room. swapping out splits for power amps helps also pending how many times your signal gets split for tvs, phones, etc
Some time last year we had someone from Comcast come out with a tester and get our modem plugged in where the signal wasn't split at all. We've moved since then, so it's possible we're set up improperly again.
Was replacing the cabling just putting new cables in, or rearranging the existing cables? I'm not exactly sure what you did that fixed it, but if you can be a little more specific I'll make that my next thing to try.
KOBAheh !
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4406998023.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/124388830.png
ouch :/
how bad is that for playing games? is it consistent enough for you to get used to it, or does it just constantly bug out?
[quote=conductor][quote=smobo]It would be great to hear about steps you've taken to improve things and how they turned out, to help anyone else that may have similar issues[/quote]
the only real issue I've ever run into (and know a lot of other people have run into) is cable modems having less than ideal signal levels; you can read about that on broadbandreports if you actually care, but my net got a million times better after I replaced all the cabling myself running from where our line comes into the house to where the modem is in my room. swapping out splits for power amps helps also pending how many times your signal gets split for tvs, phones, etc[/quote]
Some time last year we had someone from Comcast come out with a tester and get our modem plugged in where the signal wasn't split at all. We've moved since then, so it's possible we're set up improperly again.
Was replacing the cabling just putting new cables in, or rearranging the existing cables? I'm not exactly sure what you did that fixed it, but if you can be a little more specific I'll make that my next thing to try.
[quote=KOBA]heh !
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4406998023.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/124388830.png[/quote]
ouch :/
how bad is that for playing games? is it consistent enough for you to get used to it, or does it just constantly bug out?
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4407050826.png
http://www.pingtest.net/result/124390247.png
Gravitythis thread which has been made multiple times in the past ends with people showing off their fast speeds and/or a group of people complaining about bad internet speeds and bad internet companies
I searched before making the thread, and those speedtest posting threads did not really address what i'm asking.
[quote=Gravity]this thread which has been made multiple times in the past ends with people showing off their fast speeds and/or a group of people complaining about bad internet speeds and bad internet companies[/quote]
I searched before making the thread, and those speedtest posting threads did not really address what i'm asking.
Woogiebugmy internet sucks!!1!1
no wonder you live in a 3rd world country
[quote=Woogiebug]my internet sucks!!1!1[/quote]
no wonder you live in a 3rd world country
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4407300145.png
i went from no internet to this and things are working out decently
[img]http://www.speedtest.net/result/4407300145.png[/img]
i went from no internet to this and things are working out decently
closest server to me ;c
[img]http://i.imgur.com/zooKUPc.png[/img]
ComangliasmoboI just wanted to get a feel for what kind of internet connections people use to play, and their experience with it in the context of gaming. It would be great to hear about steps you've taken to improve things and how they turned out, to help anyone else that may have similar issues.
Gravitythis thread which has been made multiple times in the past ends with people showing off their fast speeds and/or a group of people complaining about bad internet speeds and bad internet companies
Alright so let's make this different then.
As someone who 1. Knows a decent amount about networking 2. Works for an ISP and 3. Lived in multiple service areas I think I can add a decent amount to the main point of this thread. Which I assume is "what's the ideal/optimal setup" or "what's the closest I could get in my service area to ideal/optimal".
By and far the most ideal connection is being plugged directly into a Fiber ONT on a GE port (to insure the lowest added ping) and have enough bandwidth to connect/report to a server (which is usually not that much unless it's a p2p connection which you might need some decent upload speeds if you happen to be host)
Sadly the majority of us are on either DOCSIS or DSL (maybe even bonded or VDSL), and even if you have Fiber it isn't usually realistic to plug directly into an ONT let alone know/make sure it's a GE port. So what is one to do?
DSL users. Make sure you're not on "interleave" also called Path 1 make sure it's "fast" also called Path 0
http://aya.sy/services/adsl/Demo/d-link2730/DLinkDSL-2730U_files/image007.jpg
sorry for the blurry image but this was the best I could find, in the 2nd section you see the "DSL Latency". Normally you would find this by plugging directly into your Modem and setting a static of 192.168.1.12 or 192.168.0.12 (the 12 just can't be 1) and then browse to 192.168.1.1 or 0.1 for some modems. Use whatever the default username/password it is and you can find that menu, or you could call in and ask and you might get someone who can help you. Either way if you're on interleave GET OFF OF IT you're adding A LOT of latency to your ping.
A note on bandwidth: DSL users if you max out your bandwidth in either the upstream or downstream you will increase your latency or worse completely lose connection because of it. It's really common for DSL users to max out their upload do to it being extremely low. (2.5Mb being best case scenario for Annex M users, or 1.2Mb or lower for just about everyone else on DSL)
DOCSIS users Honestly their's not much you can do other than make sure you have a DOCSIS 3.0 Modem, and you would only notice a difference if your Cable plants CMTS supported it. You could also minimize the number of splitters between you and your ISP as well ideally 0, as someone mentioned above having properly installed / new coaxial cable is definitely preferred and you would HAVE to contact your ISP if they're willing to actually do that; that is assuming you don't know how and that the poor power levels are from your end rather than your ISPs.
To find out if you're docsis 3 you'll have to google your modem/model.
Power levels can be found by logging into your modem.
Both DSL and DOCSIS users It's not uncommon for modems that have been around for awhile that when they start to break add a shit ton of latency to your ping. I've found numerous times of modems of the same brand and modem where 1 had significantly higher latency than the other (usually ones that have been actively used for a very long time), so make sure you get a new one every so often. In 1 case I was testing 2 Zhone 6211 DSL modems, one would ping a server that's about 1000ft away at about 2-3ms the other at best would do 40ms.
All users Use a wired connection, if you're behind a router make sure you're off a Gigabit port if possible, try the minimize the number of devices between you and the internet. (It really should be more than Modem -> Router -> Your PC)
help, what should I do here ?
http://i.imgur.com/LqeRTyk.jpg
[quote=Comanglia][quote=smobo]I just wanted to get a feel for what kind of internet connections people use to play, and their experience with it in the context of gaming. It would be great to hear about steps you've taken to improve things and how they turned out, to help anyone else that may have similar issues.[/quote]
[quote=Gravity]this thread which has been made multiple times in the past ends with people showing off their fast speeds and/or a group of people complaining about bad internet speeds and bad internet companies[/quote]
Alright so let's make this different then.
As someone who 1. Knows a decent amount about networking 2. Works for an ISP and 3. Lived in multiple service areas I think I can add a decent amount to the main point of this thread. Which I assume is "what's the ideal/optimal setup" or "what's the closest I could get in my service area to ideal/optimal".
By and far the most ideal connection is being plugged directly into a Fiber ONT on a GE port (to insure the lowest added ping) and have enough bandwidth to connect/report to a server (which is usually not that much unless it's a p2p connection which you might need some decent upload speeds if you happen to be host)
Sadly the majority of us are on either DOCSIS or DSL (maybe even bonded or VDSL), and even if you have Fiber it isn't usually realistic to plug directly into an ONT let alone know/make sure it's a GE port. So what is one to do?
[b]DSL users[/b]. Make sure you're not on "interleave" also called Path 1 make sure it's "fast" also called Path 0
[img]http://aya.sy/services/adsl/Demo/d-link2730/DLinkDSL-2730U_files/image007.jpg[/img]
sorry for the blurry image but this was the best I could find, in the 2nd section you see the "DSL Latency". Normally you would find this by plugging directly into your Modem and setting a static of 192.168.1.12 or 192.168.0.12 (the 12 just can't be 1) and then browse to 192.168.1.1 or 0.1 for some modems. Use whatever the default username/password it is and you can find that menu, or you could call in and ask and you might get someone who can help you. Either way if you're on interleave GET OFF OF IT you're adding A LOT of latency to your ping.
A note on bandwidth: DSL users if you max out your bandwidth in either the upstream or downstream you will increase your latency or worse completely lose connection because of it. It's really common for DSL users to max out their upload do to it being extremely low. (2.5Mb being best case scenario for Annex M users, or 1.2Mb or lower for just about everyone else on DSL)
[b]DOCSIS users[/b] Honestly their's not much you can do other than make sure you have a DOCSIS 3.0 Modem, and you would only notice a difference if your Cable plants CMTS supported it. You could also minimize the number of splitters between you and your ISP as well ideally 0, as someone mentioned above having properly installed / new coaxial cable is definitely preferred and you would HAVE to contact your ISP if they're willing to actually do that; that is assuming you don't know how and that the poor power levels are from your end rather than your ISPs.
To find out if you're docsis 3 you'll have to google your modem/model.
Power levels can be found by logging into your modem.
[b]Both DSL and DOCSIS users[/b] It's not uncommon for modems that have been around for awhile that when they start to break add a shit ton of latency to your ping. I've found numerous times of modems of the same brand and modem where 1 had significantly higher latency than the other (usually ones that have been actively used for a very long time), so make sure you get a new one every so often. In 1 case I was testing 2 Zhone 6211 DSL modems, one would ping a server that's about 1000ft away at about 2-3ms the other at best would do 40ms.
[b]All users[/b] Use a wired connection, if you're behind a router make sure you're off a Gigabit port if possible, try the minimize the number of devices between you and the internet. (It really should be more than Modem -> Router -> Your PC)[/quote]
help, what should I do here ? [img]http://i.imgur.com/LqeRTyk.jpg[/img]
As I said in the other "internet" thread. My unstable ping worries me more than anything else. I've been lucky the past couple weeks, but more often than not, I'm not blessed with 30-60 ping.
http://puu.sh/gtPCc/3e52bbaa40.png
Try playing with this:
http://puu.sh/gAxSo/4827fd3c67.png
As I said in the other "internet" thread. My unstable ping worries me more than anything else. I've been lucky the past couple weeks, but more often than not, I'm not blessed with 30-60 ping.
[img]http://puu.sh/gtPCc/3e52bbaa40.png[/img]
Try playing with this:
[img]http://puu.sh/gAxSo/4827fd3c67.png[/img]
KOBAhelp, what should I do here ? http://i.imgur.com/LqeRTyk.jpg
On the right left hand sign of your screen you would go to "ADSL Line"
HidiAs I said in the other "internet" thread. My unstable ping worries me more than anything else. I've been lucky the past couple weeks, but more often than not, I'm not blessed with 30-60 ping.
http://puu.sh/gtPCc/3e52bbaa40.png
Try playing with this:
http://puu.sh/gAxSo/4827fd3c67.png
What kind of internet do you have?
Coaxial Cable (Docsis)
http://litramfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/coaxial-cable-assemblies.jpg
DSL / Phone line (ADSL, VDSL, Dial up, Bonded DSL, G.DMT)
http://www.plus.net/images/support/broadband/hardware/dlink320b/dsl320b_microfilter.jpg
This picture has a filter for the DSL/Landline Phone line but basically it's a narrow ethernet cable
Ethernet Cable (If you have a ethernet cable from wall to router, you probably have Fiber or some other Ethernet provided equipment such as Hatteras)
http://images.wisegeek.com/ethernet-cable.jpg
[quote=KOBA]help, what should I do here ? [img]http://i.imgur.com/LqeRTyk.jpg[/img][/quote]
On the [s]right[/s] left hand sign of your screen you would go to "ADSL Line"
[quote=Hidi]As I said in the other "internet" thread. My unstable ping worries me more than anything else. I've been lucky the past couple weeks, but more often than not, I'm not blessed with 30-60 ping.
http://puu.sh/gtPCc/3e52bbaa40.png
Try playing with this:
http://puu.sh/gAxSo/4827fd3c67.png[/quote]
What kind of internet do you have?
Coaxial Cable (Docsis)
http://litramfg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/coaxial-cable-assemblies.jpg
DSL / Phone line (ADSL, VDSL, Dial up, Bonded DSL, G.DMT)
http://www.plus.net/images/support/broadband/hardware/dlink320b/dsl320b_microfilter.jpg
This picture has a filter for the DSL/Landline Phone line but basically it's a narrow ethernet cable
Ethernet Cable (If you have a ethernet cable from wall to router, you probably have Fiber or some other Ethernet provided equipment such as Hatteras)
http://images.wisegeek.com/ethernet-cable.jpg
My internet speed is fine. Just its not reliable. I've had 2x 2 hour outages in the last week alone. Net was out from 12 midnight to 2AM last night.
50Mbps down and 5Mbps up.
Average 95 ping to Chicago, 85 ping to Dallas, 110 Ping to NY, and 45 ping to Los Angeles. My routing sucks. :(
My internet speed is fine. Just its not reliable. I've had 2x 2 hour outages in the last week alone. Net was out from 12 midnight to 2AM last night.
50Mbps down and 5Mbps up.
Average 95 ping to Chicago, 85 ping to Dallas, 110 Ping to NY, and 45 ping to Los Angeles. My routing sucks. :(
Yay
cost 100$ /month with taxes, but were 3 in our flat, so its not that bad since we dont have television or a phone.
500gb download and upload combined limit.
i have good ping to New York = 10-15
Chicago = 30
[url=http://speedtest.net/my-result/4407411911]Yay[/url]
cost 100$ /month with taxes, but were 3 in our flat, so its not that bad since we dont have television or a phone.
500gb download and upload combined limit.
i have good ping to New York = 10-15
Chicago = 30
dollarlayerMy internet speed is fine. Just its not reliable. I've had 2x 2 hour outages in the last week alone. Net was out from 12 midnight to 2AM last night.
50Mbps down and 5Mbps up.
Average 95 ping to Chicago, 85 ping to Dallas, 110 Ping to NY, and 45 ping to Los Angeles. My routing sucks. :(
"12 midnight to 2AM last night."
Those are standard maitenance hours. The vast majority of outages that start after Midnight and end before 5AM are maintenance.
[quote=dollarlayer]My internet speed is fine. Just its not reliable. I've had 2x 2 hour outages in the last week alone. Net was out from 12 midnight to 2AM last night.
50Mbps down and 5Mbps up.
Average 95 ping to Chicago, 85 ping to Dallas, 110 Ping to NY, and 45 ping to Los Angeles. My routing sucks. :([/quote]
"12 midnight to 2AM last night."
Those are standard maitenance hours. The vast majority of outages that start after Midnight and end before 5AM are maintenance.
[url=http://gyazo.com/c8fd754ac876f8bc97c7ac013027eae7]pretty decent id say[/url]
dollarlayerMy internet speed is fine. Just its not reliable. I've had 2x 2 hour outages in the last week alone. Net was out from 12 midnight to 2AM last night.
50Mbps down and 5Mbps up.
Average 95 ping to Chicago, 85 ping to Dallas, 110 Ping to NY, and 45 ping to Los Angeles. My routing sucks. :(
i cant imagine this ping
5 to chicago, 18-25 to dallas, 30 to NY, 60 to LA and Seattle
[quote=dollarlayer]My internet speed is fine. Just its not reliable. I've had 2x 2 hour outages in the last week alone. Net was out from 12 midnight to 2AM last night.
50Mbps down and 5Mbps up.
Average 95 ping to Chicago, 85 ping to Dallas, 110 Ping to NY, and 45 ping to Los Angeles. My routing sucks. :([/quote]
i cant imagine this ping
5 to chicago, 18-25 to dallas, 30 to NY, 60 to LA and Seattle
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4407514860
uh what.
i'm paying for the highest known plan that i knew of in my area, but since this thread asked me to go to speedtest, i'm apparently getting double my speeds for some reason?
i thought i was getting 50 down/5 up
wtf
http://i.imgur.com/n99tryD.png
i'm actually so confused i'm going to call my ISP because if there are better plans, i would totally be down for that
edit: called my ISP, they quite literally doubled my speeds without telling me
ty for this thread or else i probably would have never noticed lmao
uh what.
i'm paying for the highest known plan that i knew of in my area, but since this thread asked me to go to speedtest, i'm apparently getting double my speeds for some reason?
i thought i was getting 50 down/5 up
wtf
[img]http://i.imgur.com/n99tryD.png[/img]
i'm actually so confused i'm going to call my ISP because if there are better plans, i would totally be down for that
[b]edit:[/b] called my ISP, they quite literally doubled my speeds without telling me
ty for this thread or else i probably would have never noticed lmao
ComangliaThose are standard maitenance hours. The vast majority of outages that start after Midnight and end before 5AM are maintenance.
Sometimes It might be maintanance. In fact that's kind of my guess when I get the little 10-30 minute outages about every month. But when its several hours and you hear of the outage on the radio about it, you know something else is up. Secondly, some of the outages recently were full service outages including phone and TV. It's not legal to shut down a phone line for maintenance without notifying the customer first. For security reasons and alarm systems etc. Yesterdays outage was from 12-2A. Last weeks outage was from like 4AM to 8AM.
Foxedit: called my ISP, they quite literally doubled my speeds without telling me
ty for this thread or else i probably would have never noticed lmao
Charter did the same thing. Doubled my speed for free. Then 1 year later, increased my bill by about 50%. Free isn't Free. It will cost you something later in the form of a rate hike.
owl5 to chicago, 18-25 to dallas, 30 to NY, 60 to LA and Seattle
Yea projectile classes kind of suck with that ping. Scout isn't that bad. Just I can never really get used to the additional lag comp that 100 ping gives you. Shot 10-20 feet around corners. Walking through health packs and dying on the other side of them. Standing to block a capture point and the point captures anyways (no lag comp on control points).
[quote=Comanglia]Those are standard maitenance hours. The vast majority of outages that start after Midnight and end before 5AM are maintenance.[/quote]
Sometimes It might be maintanance. In fact that's kind of my guess when I get the little 10-30 minute outages about every month. But when its several hours and you hear of the outage on the radio about it, you know something else is up. Secondly, some of the outages recently were full service outages including phone and TV. It's not legal to shut down a phone line for maintenance without notifying the customer first. For security reasons and alarm systems etc. Yesterdays outage was from 12-2A. Last weeks outage was from like 4AM to 8AM.
[quote=Fox][b]edit:[/b] called my ISP, they quite literally doubled my speeds without telling me
ty for this thread or else i probably would have never noticed lmao[/quote]
Charter did the same thing. Doubled my speed for free. Then 1 year later, increased my bill by about 50%. Free isn't Free. It will cost you something later in the form of a rate hike.
[quote=owl]5 to chicago, 18-25 to dallas, 30 to NY, 60 to LA and Seattle[/quote]
Yea projectile classes kind of suck with that ping. Scout isn't that bad. Just I can never really get used to the additional lag comp that 100 ping gives you. Shot 10-20 feet around corners. Walking through health packs and dying on the other side of them. Standing to block a capture point and the point captures anyways (no lag comp on control points).
i hear cookiejake has insanely good internet, forgot his ISP's name but shout out to them
i hear cookiejake has insanely good internet, forgot his ISP's name but shout out to them
[img]http://www.speedtest.net/result/4408800644.png[/img]
For 5$ per month :S
You can't use a shared medium like WiFi (especially 2.4Ghz) and expect it to be stable in the long run.
You can't use a shared medium like WiFi (especially 2.4Ghz) and expect it to be stable in the long run.