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UGC Plat: MenaceToSociety vs. Ginyu Hoops
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DATE
Monday, Jun 8th
TIME
9:30 PM EDT
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It's a legendary matchup in UGC Platinum Highlander! Menace To Society, long time highlander veterans and reigning second place champions. Ginyu Hoops, collaboration of players from two of the best highlander teams in history. An old rivalry, a new season, and familiar faces. Tune in to either EVL TV or eXtelevision to watch this clash of the titans go down on cp_gullywash!

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evlTV UGC Plat: MenaceToSociety vs. Ginyu Hoops
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#1
-6 Frags +

Ew gully

Ew gully
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#2
7 Frags +

Go spamfest!

Go spamfest!
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#3
12 Frags +

enigma to top frag.

enigma to top frag.
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#4
4 Frags +

duwatna to carry on heavy

duwatna to carry on heavy
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#5
1 Frags +

which team can throw harder

which team can throw harder
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#6
6 Frags +

Which 5 hour heavy will go harder? My money is on Lunacide.

Which 5 hour heavy will go harder? My money is on Lunacide.
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#7
5 Frags +
MumaWhich 5 hour heavy will go harder? My money is on Lunacide.

duwatna has an unusual

[quote=Muma]Which 5 hour heavy will go harder? My money is on Lunacide.[/quote]
duwatna has an unusual
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#8
15 Frags +
fatswimdudeMumaWhich 5 hour heavy will go harder? My money is on Lunacide.duwatna has an unusual

It's an all class.

[quote=fatswimdude][quote=Muma]Which 5 hour heavy will go harder? My money is on Lunacide.[/quote]
duwatna has an unusual[/quote]

It's an all class.
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#9
6 Frags +

SPAMFEST IS MY BOY

SPAMFEST IS MY BOY
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#10
4 Frags +

s p a m f e s t

s p a m f e s t
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#11
2 Frags +

https://saloon.tf/match/438/

https://saloon.tf/match/438/
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#12
3 Frags +

go spamfest!

go spamfest!
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#13
3 Frags +

There are so many games to cast, why double?

There are so many games to cast, why double?
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#14
2 Frags +

So we are going to have two competing streams of the same match?

So we are going to have two competing streams of the same match?
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#15
eXtelevision
2 Frags +

This is the match we decided to cast last week. grizzly communicated this to mambolay and we moved forward with plans. It's nice to have evlTV offering coverage this season (and last). It's too bad we didn't get together before the season to concentrate our efforts. I reached out to mambo/Ugc about plans for this season's coverage right after last season wrapped but otherwise the eXtv decision to run coverage this season was rather last minute.

We are gonna cover the best games of Ugc platinum every week, just like we have been doing for the last 4 years. I wish evl the best of luck with their casts but won't budge off games based off what they cover. If they do 6s/ultiduo coverage I'm down to show up on their stream if I'm free and they and I can discuss collaboration for neXt season.

I realized two event postings is kinda spammy but I still hope my promotional posts are welcome. What would be a better way?

This is the match we decided to cast last week. grizzly communicated this to mambolay and we moved forward with plans. It's nice to have evlTV offering coverage this season (and last). It's too bad we didn't get together before the season to concentrate our efforts. I reached out to mambo/Ugc about plans for this season's coverage right after last season wrapped but otherwise the eXtv decision to run coverage this season was rather last minute.

We are gonna cover the best games of Ugc platinum every week, just like we have been doing for the last 4 years. I wish evl the best of luck with their casts but won't budge off games based off what they cover. If they do 6s/ultiduo coverage I'm down to show up on their stream if I'm free and they and I can discuss collaboration for neXt season.

I realized two event postings is kinda spammy but I still hope my promotional posts are welcome. What would be a better way?
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#16
eXtelevision
8 Frags +

Thx to enigma for merging threads. I gotta get back to rolling balls of meat. Cya neXt time.

Thx to enigma for merging threads. I gotta get back to rolling balls of meat. Cya neXt time.
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#17
0 Frags +

My reply disappeared in the abyss while merging, oh well :D

I'll just copy what I sent on Steam Chat cause I don't feel like writing it a third time :D

19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: basically what I wanted to say there is that we as users are not aware of the background deals and whatnot
19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: like talks between you, evl and ugc
19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: and my main concern was that we cannot have the whole Plat HL covered
19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: and with 3 days span between events posted it just seems
19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: like you both are saying that this game is the only one worth casting this week
19:13 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: also if you plan early (I noticed that you add events the same day)
19:14 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: you can just message someone from EVL and call dibs on this game
19:14 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: as they should do too if they do it with few days in advnace before posting an event

Also will you be casting a different game then? Muma vs Buffalo seems interesting, would be nice to see who are the newcomers to the Plat and if bote can keep up playing on the level they showed us last time they played.

My reply disappeared in the abyss while merging, oh well :D

I'll just copy what I sent on Steam Chat cause I don't feel like writing it a third time :D

[quote]19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: basically what I wanted to say there is that we as users are not aware of the background deals and whatnot
19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: like talks between you, evl and ugc
19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: and my main concern was that we cannot have the whole Plat HL covered
19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: and with 3 days span between events posted it just seems
19:11 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: like you both are saying that this game is the only one worth casting this week
19:13 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: also if you plan early (I noticed that you add events the same day)
19:14 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: you can just message someone from EVL and call dibs on this game
19:14 - CHERRY * Saloon.tf: as they should do too if they do it with few days in advnace before posting an event
[/quote]
Also will you be casting a different game then? Muma vs Buffalo seems interesting, would be nice to see who are the newcomers to the Plat and if bote can keep up playing on the level they showed us last time they played.
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#18
eXtelevision
-3 Frags +

We covered bote last week, and last season accidentally casted them for like 4 weeks in a row. I'm busy with balls till right before match time, I don't think we are changing plans.

Grizz has matches picked for us moving forward. I prolly have steam messages waiting for me at home Ttyl

We covered bote last week, and last season accidentally casted them for like 4 weeks in a row. I'm busy with balls till right before match time, I don't think we are changing plans.

Grizz has matches picked for us moving forward. I prolly have steam messages waiting for me at home Ttyl
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#19
11 Frags +

From a viewer standpoint it's dumb to cast the same game. evlTV has made it clear they're casting this game by having a TFTV post first (since last week, mind you). Having someone else come in because they're late and try and snipe the game away from them is a huge slap in the face to the peeps behind evlTV. Casting games has always been first come first served, I don't see what makes this game any different.

From a viewer standpoint it's dumb to cast the same game. evlTV has made it clear they're casting this game by having a TFTV post first (since last week, mind you). Having someone else come in because they're late and try and snipe the game away from them is a huge slap in the face to the peeps behind evlTV. Casting games has always been first come first served, I don't see what makes this game any different.
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#20
16 Frags +

allow me to settle this debate

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twitch.tv/stabbystabby
twitch.tv/duwatna
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allow me to settle this debate

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#21
3 Frags +
eXtineThis is the match we decided to cast last week. grizzly communicated this to mambolay and we moved forward with plans. It's nice to have evlTV offering coverage this season (and last). It's too bad we didn't get together before the season to concentrate our efforts. I reached out to mambo/Ugc about plans for this season's coverage right after last season wrapped but otherwise the eXtv decision to run coverage this season was rather last minute.

We are gonna cover the best games of Ugc platinum every week, just like we have been doing for the last 4 years. I wish evl the best of luck with their casts but won't budge off games based off what they cover. If they do 6s/ultiduo coverage I'm down to show up on their stream if I'm free and they and I can discuss collaboration for neXt season.

I realized two event postings is kinda spammy but I still hope my promotional posts are welcome. What would be a better way?

I would love to keep an open line of communication with you guys if at all possible so that this overlap doesn't happen. It's not fair to anyone involved by doing a double match coverage.

[quote=eXtine]This is the match we decided to cast last week. grizzly communicated this to mambolay and we moved forward with plans. It's nice to have evlTV offering coverage this season (and last). It's too bad we didn't get together before the season to concentrate our efforts. I reached out to mambo/Ugc about plans for this season's coverage right after last season wrapped but otherwise the eXtv decision to run coverage this season was rather last minute.

We are gonna cover the best games of Ugc platinum every week, just like we have been doing for the last 4 years. I wish evl the best of luck with their casts but won't budge off games based off what they cover. If they do 6s/ultiduo coverage I'm down to show up on their stream if I'm free and they and I can discuss collaboration for neXt season.

I realized two event postings is kinda spammy but I still hope my promotional posts are welcome. What would be a better way?[/quote]

I would love to keep an open line of communication with you guys if at all possible so that this overlap doesn't happen. It's not fair to anyone involved by doing a double match coverage.
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#22
3 Frags +

Since it seems like extine is being stubborn and also doesn't have time to change the match, you guys (evl) can be the better people and cast another game like silver savages vs fb despite picking mTs vs ginyu first.

Since it seems like extine is being stubborn and also doesn't have time to change the match, you guys (evl) can be the better people and cast another game like silver savages vs fb despite picking mTs vs ginyu first.
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#23
5 Frags +
CorsaSince it seems like extine is being stubborn and also doesn't have time to change the match, you guys (evl) can be the better people and cast another game like silver savages vs fb despite picking mTs vs ginyu first.

We're considering cutting our losses and dropping down to gold. We're really pushing for twitch partner and are close, and typically plat has not delivered the viewers we need unless its one of the more demanded matches. While that sounds a bit selfish, another TF2 casting org having partner is good for the entire community and helps to get TF2 higher on the radar. Usually top gold matches bring in a good amount of viewers.

[quote=Corsa]Since it seems like extine is being stubborn and also doesn't have time to change the match, you guys (evl) can be the better people and cast another game like silver savages vs fb despite picking mTs vs ginyu first.[/quote]
We're considering cutting our losses and dropping down to gold. We're really pushing for twitch partner and are close, and typically plat has not delivered the viewers we need unless its one of the more demanded matches. While that sounds a bit selfish, another TF2 casting org having partner is good for the entire community and helps to get TF2 higher on the radar. Usually top gold matches bring in a good amount of viewers.
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#24
4 Frags +

i mean, with stabby and max (and others) streaming all our matches anyway y'all are competing for like 50-100 viewers at most. still a dick move extv

i mean, with stabby and max (and others) streaming all our matches anyway y'all are competing for like 50-100 viewers at most. still a dick move extv
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#25
eXtelevision
8 Frags +

I don't appreciate this being framed as an issue of morality. We have been covering what we think will be the best UGC match of the week for over four years.

EVL is more than welcome to cast whatever they want but we are not going to change what we cover because of other people's plans for streaming.

I have been public about going through some shit in the last months. If EVL had reached out to me in the off season and said they were hoping to cover the best platinum games every week, which again is what we've been doing for four years, I would have gladly stepped aside then and let them take the whole season.

There were obviously some bumps in Communication this off season between Ugc evl and myself, but there is no I'll will anywhere. I didn't wake up this morning conspiring to nudge evl off this cast. I hope they also run a production tonight and don't switch plans.

I think everyone wants the same thing so let's cut the hostility.

Grizz Sigafoo and myself are committed to putting together eXcellent coverages of UGCs best match every week of season 16. We'd appreciate your viewership, but as it's been pointed out there are many ways to watch it already. The vod will be on YouTube.

I don't appreciate this being framed as an issue of morality. We have been covering what we think will be the best UGC match of the week for over four years.

EVL is more than welcome to cast whatever they want but we are not going to change what we cover because of other people's plans for streaming.

I have been public about going through some shit in the last months. If EVL had reached out to me in the off season and said they were hoping to cover the best platinum games every week, which again is what we've been doing for four years, I would have gladly stepped aside then and let them take the whole season.

There were obviously some bumps in Communication this off season between Ugc evl and myself, but there is no I'll will anywhere. I didn't wake up this morning conspiring to nudge evl off this cast. I hope they also run a production tonight and don't switch plans.

I think everyone wants the same thing so let's cut the hostility.

Grizz Sigafoo and myself are committed to putting together eXcellent coverages of UGCs best match every week of season 16. We'd appreciate your viewership, but as it's been pointed out there are many ways to watch it already. The vod will be on YouTube.
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#26
4 Frags +
eXtineI don't appreciate this being framed as an issue of morality. We have been covering what we think will be the best UGC match of the week for over four years.

EVL is more than welcome to cast whatever they want but we are not going to change what we cover because of other people's plans for streaming.

I have been public about going through some shit in the last months. If EVL had reached out to me in the off season and said they were hoping to cover the best platinum games every week, which again is what we've been doing for four years, I would have gladly stepped aside then and let them take the whole season.

There were obviously some bumps in Communication this off season between Ugc evl and myself, but there is no I'll will anywhere. I didn't wake up this morning conspiring to nudge evl off this cast. I hope they also run a production tonight and don't switch plans.

I think everyone wants the same thing so let's cut the hostility.

Grizz Sigafoo and myself are committed to putting together eXcellent coverages of UGCs best match every week of season 16. We'd appreciate your viewership, but as it's been pointed out there are many ways to watch it already. The vod will be on YouTube.

We won't be changing our plans, we put in the extra effort to get this game setup, and I don't see a reason for us to switch it up, nor should you guys since you did the same.

While I don't agree that its completely on us for not reaching out pre-season, I don't want anyone to think there is some kind of feud between us and eXtv. On the contrary, competition is good, it keeps us all on our toes, any economics book will tell you that. eXtv definitely is doing a lot of good for TF2, and we hope we're doing the same.

[quote=eXtine]I don't appreciate this being framed as an issue of morality. We have been covering what we think will be the best UGC match of the week for over four years.

EVL is more than welcome to cast whatever they want but we are not going to change what we cover because of other people's plans for streaming.

I have been public about going through some shit in the last months. If EVL had reached out to me in the off season and said they were hoping to cover the best platinum games every week, which again is what we've been doing for four years, I would have gladly stepped aside then and let them take the whole season.

There were obviously some bumps in Communication this off season between Ugc evl and myself, but there is no I'll will anywhere. I didn't wake up this morning conspiring to nudge evl off this cast. I hope they also run a production tonight and don't switch plans.

I think everyone wants the same thing so let's cut the hostility.

Grizz Sigafoo and myself are committed to putting together eXcellent coverages of UGCs best match every week of season 16. We'd appreciate your viewership, but as it's been pointed out there are many ways to watch it already. The vod will be on YouTube.[/quote]

We won't be changing our plans, we put in the extra effort to get this game setup, and I don't see a reason for us to switch it up, nor should you guys since you did the same.

While I don't agree that its completely on us for not reaching out pre-season, I don't want anyone to think there is some kind of feud between us and eXtv. On the contrary, competition is good, it keeps us all on our toes, any economics book will tell you that. eXtv definitely is doing a lot of good for TF2, and we hope we're doing the same.
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#27
eXtelevision
-2 Frags +

^ what he said. Ty jeering ttyl

^ what he said. Ty jeering ttyl
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#28
1 Frags +
EVL is more than welcome to cast whatever they want but we are not going to change what we cover because of other people's plans for streaming.

I imagine this is what people are going on about. While you may think that the quoted statement is fine (you said it, afterall), it appears that most of the people posting about the situation that are ragging on you are upset about that in particular.

I think it's safe to say that double-casting an already livestreamed match (Max stabby & others) is not a good use of anyone's time. Most people are siding with EVL because, well, they were there first. They announced their intention to cast it quite a bit ago. They disagree with your intent to cast what you (Grizz?) deems the best Plat match, since EVL already announced their intentions.

Of course, it appears EVL is being the better man and moving their casting intentions (edit: i got post-sniped forget that), but overall it comes down to people perceiving EXTV as just not caring about what EVL does and says (which you practically admitted to by saying the quoted text above), and not liking it.

[quote]EVL is more than welcome to cast whatever they want but we are not going to change what we cover because of other people's plans for streaming.[/quote]

I imagine this is what people are going on about. While you may think that the quoted statement is fine (you said it, afterall), it appears that most of the people posting about the situation that are ragging on you are upset about that in particular.

I think it's safe to say that double-casting an already livestreamed match (Max stabby & others) is not a good use of anyone's time. Most people are siding with EVL because, well, they were there first. They announced their intention to cast it quite a bit ago. They disagree with your intent to cast what you (Grizz?) deems the best Plat match, since EVL already announced their intentions.

Of course, it appears EVL is being the better man and moving their casting intentions (edit: i got post-sniped forget that), but overall it comes down to people perceiving EXTV as just not caring about what EVL does and says (which you practically admitted to by saying the quoted text above), and not liking it.
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#29
6 Frags +
brooky12Of course, it appears EVL is being the better man and moving their casting intentions (edit: i got post-sniped forget that), but overall it comes down to people perceiving EXTV as just not caring about what EVL does and says (which you practically admitted to by saying the quoted text above), and not liking it.

Actually we'll be sticking with our original plan to cast the match. We put some effort into this match already, and we're not going to change the match we're casting, and neither should eXtv.

[quote=brooky12]
Of course, it appears EVL is being the better man and moving their casting intentions (edit: i got post-sniped forget that), but overall it comes down to people perceiving EXTV as just not caring about what EVL does and says (which you practically admitted to by saying the quoted text above), and not liking it.[/quote]

Actually we'll be sticking with our original plan to cast the match. We put some effort into this match already, and we're not going to change the match we're casting, and neither should eXtv.
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#30
0 Frags +

Sick ping

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