CHERRYUSB can't be worse than integrated :O
Still don't understand why would anyone recommend USB over PCI?
usb can't be worse than intregrated? are you sure? i say they're almost always worse than integrated chipset
because pci ones cost more
Best mics?
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[quote=CHERRY]USB can't be worse than integrated :O
Still don't understand why would anyone recommend USB over PCI?[/quote]
usb can't be worse than intregrated? are you sure? i say they're almost always worse than integrated chipset
because pci ones cost more
Still don't understand why would anyone recommend USB over PCI?[/quote]
usb can't be worse than intregrated? are you sure? i say they're almost always worse than integrated chipset
because pci ones cost more
I use a blue Nessie, I like it, but I'm probably upgrading to a blue yeti sometime this month
I use a blue Nessie, I like it, but I'm probably upgrading to a blue yeti sometime this month
Also good luck finding a PCI soundcard for less than 5$.
EDIT:
#31
Of course there is absolutely no way a 5$ USB sound card can beat a 1$ onboard chip.
PCI sound cards are obviously more expensive because they are better, not because a PCB three times the size is more expensive to manufacture.
EDIT2:
OP:
Modmic on massdrop again, you might be able to get it and a decent sound card and still stay within budget.
Also good luck finding a PCI soundcard for less than 5$.
EDIT:
#31
Of course there is absolutely no way a 5$ USB sound card can beat a 1$ onboard chip.
PCI sound cards are obviously more expensive because they are better, not because a PCB three times the size is more expensive to manufacture.
EDIT2:
OP:
Modmic on massdrop again, you might be able to get it and a decent sound card and still stay within budget.
EDIT:
#31
Of course there is absolutely no way a 5$ USB sound card can beat a 1$ onboard chip.
PCI sound cards are obviously more expensive because they are better, not because a PCB three times the size is more expensive to manufacture.
EDIT2:
OP:
Modmic on massdrop again, you might be able to get it and a decent sound card and still stay within budget.
SetsulAlso good luck finding a PCI soundcard for less than 5$.
EDIT:
#31
Of course there is absolutely no way a 5$ USB sound card can beat a 1$ onboard chip.
PCI sound cards are obviously more expensive because they are better, not because a PCB three times the size is more expensive to manufacture.
what motherboards are you talking about? 20$ ones? pretty much every decent motherboard ~70$ has a decent onboard audio chipset, or at least better than pretty much any usb audio card existent. Also the PCI audio cards are surely better, but also because the PCB three times the size allows the manufacturers to add filtering and other stuff you cannot do on a few cms x few cms PCB the usb audiocards use, that thing you could do on a motherboard.
[quote=Setsul]Also good luck finding a PCI soundcard for less than 5$.
EDIT:
#31
Of course there is absolutely no way a 5$ USB sound card can beat a 1$ onboard chip.
PCI sound cards are obviously more expensive because they are better, not because a PCB three times the size is more expensive to manufacture.[/quote]
what motherboards are you talking about? 20$ ones? pretty much every decent motherboard ~70$ has a decent onboard audio chipset, or at least better than pretty much any usb audio card existent. Also the PCI audio cards are surely better, but also because the PCB three times the size allows the manufacturers to add filtering and other stuff you cannot do on a few cms x few cms PCB the usb audiocards use, that thing you could do on a motherboard.
EDIT:
#31
Of course there is absolutely no way a 5$ USB sound card can beat a 1$ onboard chip.
PCI sound cards are obviously more expensive because they are better, not because a PCB three times the size is more expensive to manufacture.[/quote]
what motherboards are you talking about? 20$ ones? pretty much every decent motherboard ~70$ has a decent onboard audio chipset, or at least better than pretty much any usb audio card existent. Also the PCI audio cards are surely better, but also because the PCB three times the size allows the manufacturers to add filtering and other stuff you cannot do on a few cms x few cms PCB the usb audiocards use, that thing you could do on a motherboard.
rock I'm like 90% sure you're only on this thread to argue with whatever point is ever made
rock I'm like 90% sure you're only on this thread to argue with whatever point is ever made
Knuckles_rock I'm like 90% sure you're only on this thread to argue with whatever point is ever made
no, just to show that what's being said is bullshit
[quote=Knuckles_]rock I'm like 90% sure you're only on this thread to argue with whatever point is ever made[/quote]
no, just to show that what's being said is bullshit
no, just to show that what's being said is bullshit
rock-Knuckles_rock I'm like 90% sure you're only on this thread to argue with whatever point is ever made
no, just to show that what's being said is bullshit
so you're right and everyone else doesn't know what they're talking about, right?
[quote=rock-][quote=Knuckles_]rock I'm like 90% sure you're only on this thread to argue with whatever point is ever made[/quote]
no, just to show that what's being said is bullshit[/quote]
so you're right and everyone else doesn't know what they're talking about, right?
no, just to show that what's being said is bullshit[/quote]
so you're right and everyone else doesn't know what they're talking about, right?
#34
Do you really think they'd put 1$ audio chips on a 20$ mobo?
Do you really think the chips on high end mobos are worth more than 1$?
Let's test your theory:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme11/
400$ mobo
Realtek ALC898.
Let's how much that thing costs:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/-New-Original-ALC898_60206816836.html
0.1$
10 cents.
10 fucking cents.
And you're telling 50+$ USB sound cards can't beat that?
What kind of magic did Realtek put in there?
I should probably stop posting, if you still don't get it you're either beyond any help or trolling.
#34
Do you really think they'd put 1$ audio chips on a 20$ mobo?
Do you really think the chips on high end mobos are worth more than 1$?
Let's test your theory:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme11/
400$ mobo
Realtek ALC898.
Let's how much that thing costs:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/-New-Original-ALC898_60206816836.html
0.1$
10 cents.
10 fucking cents.
And you're telling 50+$ USB sound cards can't beat that?
What kind of magic did Realtek put in there?
I should probably stop posting, if you still don't get it you're either beyond any help or trolling.
Do you really think they'd put 1$ audio chips on a 20$ mobo?
Do you really think the chips on high end mobos are worth more than 1$?
Let's test your theory:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme11/
400$ mobo
Realtek ALC898.
Let's how much that thing costs:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/-New-Original-ALC898_60206816836.html
0.1$
10 cents.
10 fucking cents.
And you're telling 50+$ USB sound cards can't beat that?
What kind of magic did Realtek put in there?
I should probably stop posting, if you still don't get it you're either beyond any help or trolling.
Can vouch for the modmic here. It's all about the positioning, a blue yeti or snowball will technically have better sound quality but pickup your keyboard and all background noise as those are usually not ideally placed.
I also run it fine on onboard sound, on realtek no less so I wouldn't worry about buying a soundcard until you try it with onboard first
Can vouch for the modmic here. It's all about the positioning, a blue yeti or snowball will technically have better sound quality but pickup your keyboard and all background noise as those are usually not ideally placed.
I also run it fine on onboard sound, on realtek no less so I wouldn't worry about buying a soundcard until you try it with onboard first
I also run it fine on onboard sound, on realtek no less so I wouldn't worry about buying a soundcard until you try it with onboard first
i switched from a snowball to a modmic in an attempt to both clear desk space and get something that doesnt pick up my blue switches as badly. it's really nice and besides a couple problems i had with mumble (that were related to my non-mobo sound card and not the mic itself) i havent had any issues with it whatsoever.
i switched from a snowball to a modmic in an attempt to both clear desk space and get something that doesnt pick up my blue switches as badly. it's really nice and besides a couple problems i had with mumble (that were related to my non-mobo sound card and not the mic itself) i havent had any issues with it whatsoever.
Setsul#34
Do you really think they'd put 1$ audio chips on a 20$ mobo?
Do you really think the chips on high end mobos are worth more than 1$?
Let's test your theory:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme11/
400$ mobo
Realtek ALC898.
Let's how much that thing costs:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/-New-Original-ALC898_60206816836.html
0.1$
10 cents.
10 fucking cents.
And you're telling 50+$ USB sound cards can't beat that?
What kind of magic did Realtek put in there?
I should probably stop posting, if you still don't get it you're either beyond any help or trolling.
It's not only about the chipset they use, what are you talking about, also if that costs 10 cents on a 400$ dollars what do you think they'll put in a 5$ thing?
What you're saying is that this thing up here, is probably better than the built-in audio chipset of any motherboard, included that one you posted. Do you actually know what u're talking about?
do we want to discover together what's in that thing?
[quote=Setsul]#34
Do you really think they'd put 1$ audio chips on a 20$ mobo?
Do you really think the chips on high end mobos are worth more than 1$?
Let's test your theory:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme11/
400$ mobo
Realtek ALC898.
Let's how much that thing costs:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/-New-Original-ALC898_60206816836.html
0.1$
10 cents.
10 fucking cents.
And you're telling 50+$ USB sound cards can't beat that?
What kind of magic did Realtek put in there?
I should probably stop posting, if you still don't get it you're either beyond any help or trolling.[/quote]
It's not only about the chipset they use, what are you talking about, also if that costs 10 cents on a 400$ dollars what do you think they'll put in a 5$ thing?
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DZ92-External-USB-2-0-to-3D-Virtual-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-Converter-7-1-CH/1199069_1924531331.html
What you're saying is that this thing up here, is probably better than the built-in audio chipset of any motherboard, included that one you posted. Do you actually know what u're talking about?
do we want to discover together what's in that thing?
Do you really think they'd put 1$ audio chips on a 20$ mobo?
Do you really think the chips on high end mobos are worth more than 1$?
Let's test your theory:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%20Extreme11/
400$ mobo
Realtek ALC898.
Let's how much that thing costs:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/-New-Original-ALC898_60206816836.html
0.1$
10 cents.
10 fucking cents.
And you're telling 50+$ USB sound cards can't beat that?
What kind of magic did Realtek put in there?
I should probably stop posting, if you still don't get it you're either beyond any help or trolling.[/quote]
It's not only about the chipset they use, what are you talking about, also if that costs 10 cents on a 400$ dollars what do you think they'll put in a 5$ thing?
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DZ92-External-USB-2-0-to-3D-Virtual-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-Converter-7-1-CH/1199069_1924531331.html
What you're saying is that this thing up here, is probably better than the built-in audio chipset of any motherboard, included that one you posted. Do you actually know what u're talking about?
do we want to discover together what's in that thing?
You can't be this dense.
Your argument proves that the steel rims on a 20k$ car are better than 400$ alloy rims because 20k > 400. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
The ALC898 is on the Z77 Extreme4 aswell. 135$. The Z77 chipset alone costs 48$. And then there's still a lot of other hardware you need for a mobo.
Believe it or not the budget for audio hardware is higher in a 5$ USB sound card than in a typical motherboard.
I'll do a teardown if you send me one.
You can't be this dense.
Your argument proves that the steel rims on a 20k$ car are better than 400$ alloy rims because 20k > 400. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
The ALC898 is on the Z77 Extreme4 aswell. 135$. The Z77 chipset alone costs 48$. And then there's still a lot of other hardware you need for a mobo.
Believe it or not the budget for audio hardware is higher in a 5$ USB sound card than in a typical motherboard.
I'll do a teardown if you send me one.
Your argument proves that the steel rims on a 20k$ car are better than 400$ alloy rims because 20k > 400. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
The ALC898 is on the Z77 Extreme4 aswell. 135$. The Z77 chipset alone costs 48$. And then there's still a lot of other hardware you need for a mobo.
Believe it or not the budget for audio hardware is higher in a 5$ USB sound card than in a typical motherboard.
I'll do a teardown if you send me one.
SetsulYou can't be this dense.
Your argument proves that the steel rims on a 20k$ car are better than 400$ alloy rims because 20k > 400. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
The ALC898 is on the Z77 Extreme4 aswell. 135$. The Z77 chipset alone costs 48$. And then there's still a lot of other hardware you need for a mobo.
Believe it or not the budget for audio hardware is higher in a 5$ USB sound card than in a typical motherboard.
I'll do a teardown if you send me one.
Stop talking only about chipsets, it's not the only part that counts, on those usb things there's no space for anything else but the chip, the 2 audio jacks and the usb plug, you don't get it, do you?
[quote=Setsul]You can't be this dense.
Your argument proves that the steel rims on a 20k$ car are better than 400$ alloy rims because 20k > 400. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
The ALC898 is on the Z77 Extreme4 aswell. 135$. The Z77 chipset alone costs 48$. And then there's still a lot of other hardware you need for a mobo.
Believe it or not the budget for audio hardware is higher in a 5$ USB sound card than in a typical motherboard.
I'll do a teardown if you send me one.[/quote]
Stop talking only about chipsets, it's not the only part that counts, on those usb things there's no space for anything else but the chip, the 2 audio jacks and the usb plug, you don't get it, do you?
Your argument proves that the steel rims on a 20k$ car are better than 400$ alloy rims because 20k > 400. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
The ALC898 is on the Z77 Extreme4 aswell. 135$. The Z77 chipset alone costs 48$. And then there's still a lot of other hardware you need for a mobo.
Believe it or not the budget for audio hardware is higher in a 5$ USB sound card than in a typical motherboard.
I'll do a teardown if you send me one.[/quote]
Stop talking only about chipsets, it's not the only part that counts, on those usb things there's no space for anything else but the chip, the 2 audio jacks and the usb plug, you don't get it, do you?
rock-Stop talking only about chipsets, it's not the only part that counts
what part do you think the actual sound is processed on, thats LITERALLY the part that differentiates sound cards dude.
[quote=rock-]Stop talking only about chipsets, it's not the only part that counts[/quote]
what part do you think the actual sound is processed on, thats LITERALLY the part that differentiates sound cards dude.
what part do you think the actual sound is processed on, thats LITERALLY the part that differentiates sound cards dude.
mathsadrock-Stop talking only about chipsets, it's not the only part that countswhat part do you think the actual sound is processed on, thats LITERALLY the part that differentiates sound cards dude.
no it's not, please if you don't know what u're talking about, you shouldn't talk about it about it
this is my 5$ USB audio card
[quote=mathsad][quote=rock-]Stop talking only about chipsets, it's not the only part that counts[/quote]
what part do you think the actual sound is processed on, thats LITERALLY the part that differentiates sound cards dude.[/quote]
no it's not, please if you don't know what u're talking about, you shouldn't talk about it about it
this is my 5$ USB audio card
http://imgur.com/a/paDNl#0
what part do you think the actual sound is processed on, thats LITERALLY the part that differentiates sound cards dude.[/quote]
no it's not, please if you don't know what u're talking about, you shouldn't talk about it about it
this is my 5$ USB audio card
http://imgur.com/a/paDNl#0
But main purpose of sound card is processing sound while motherboard does everything, surely it is possible they put something worth more than 10 cents in a card costing 10$?
Not to mention that most people connect 10$ speakers to their motherboards so there's no reason to get something better in stock option.
But main purpose of sound card is processing sound while motherboard does everything, surely it is possible they put something worth more than 10 cents in a card costing 10$?
Not to mention that most people connect 10$ speakers to their motherboards so there's no reason to get something better in stock option.
Not to mention that most people connect 10$ speakers to their motherboards so there's no reason to get something better in stock option.
alright guys hes hopeless, maybe #45 should follow his own advice. :/
alright guys hes hopeless, maybe #45 should follow his own advice. :/
Guys, the mystery is solved.
He is salty because he bought a bad USB sound card.
Guys, the mystery is solved.
He is salty because he bought a bad USB sound card.
He is salty because he bought a bad USB sound card.
SetsulGuys, the mystery is solved.
He is salty because he bought a bad USB sound card.
I've read horror stories on head-fi where one of those bargain basement ebay USB sound cards was so poorly engineered that they blew up somebody's headphones. Would not recommend.
[quote=Setsul]Guys, the mystery is solved.
He is salty because he bought a bad USB sound card.[/quote]
I've read horror stories on head-fi where one of those bargain basement ebay USB sound cards was so poorly engineered that they blew up somebody's headphones. Would not recommend.
He is salty because he bought a bad USB sound card.[/quote]
I've read horror stories on head-fi where one of those bargain basement ebay USB sound cards was so poorly engineered that they blew up somebody's headphones. Would not recommend.
CHERRYBut main purpose of sound card is processing sound while motherboard does everything, surely it is possible they put something worth more than 10 cents in a card costing 10$?
Not to mention that most people connect 10$ speakers to their motherboards so there's no reason to get something better in stock option.
What are you talking about, the motherboard itself doesn't do shit, there a section which is related to the audio part, and everything is done by that
http://i.imgur.com/zantxRb.jpg
that is my motherboard, and for the record i use a pci-ex audiocard
[quote=CHERRY]But main purpose of sound card is processing sound while motherboard does everything, surely it is possible they put something worth more than 10 cents in a card costing 10$?
Not to mention that most people connect 10$ speakers to their motherboards so there's no reason to get something better in stock option.[/quote]
What are you talking about, the motherboard itself doesn't do shit, there a section which is related to the audio part, and everything is done by that
http://i.imgur.com/zantxRb.jpg
that is my motherboard, and for the record i use a pci-ex audiocard
Not to mention that most people connect 10$ speakers to their motherboards so there's no reason to get something better in stock option.[/quote]
What are you talking about, the motherboard itself doesn't do shit, there a section which is related to the audio part, and everything is done by that
http://i.imgur.com/zantxRb.jpg
that is my motherboard, and for the record i use a pci-ex audiocard
There's no way on earth any 5$ usb audio card could be better than any motherboard built-in audio card
http://i.imgur.com/gRPWqtI.jpg
this is the easiest way to show you what i mean, after this im done, stay in your ignorance and presumption, i don't care
MasterKuniSetsulGuys, the mystery is solved.
He is salty because he bought a bad USB sound card.
I've read horror stories on head-fi where one of those bargain basement ebay USB sound cards was so poorly engineered that they blew up somebody's headphones. Would not recommend.
the thing is most of those are like that because they're not engineered to work optimally and give you hd audio, they're just made to be used in emergencies or temporarily, oh and anyway my usb audiocard is this one which is probably one of the best you can find around at that price
There's no way on earth any 5$ usb audio card could be better than any motherboard built-in audio card
[img]http://i.imgur.com/gRPWqtI.jpg[/img]
this is the easiest way to show you what i mean, after this im done, stay in your ignorance and presumption, i don't care
[quote=MasterKuni][quote=Setsul]Guys, the mystery is solved.
He is salty because he bought a bad USB sound card.[/quote]
I've read horror stories on head-fi where one of those bargain basement ebay USB sound cards was so poorly engineered that they blew up somebody's headphones. Would not recommend.[/quote]
the thing is most of those are like that because they're not engineered to work optimally and give you hd audio, they're just made to be used in emergencies or temporarily, oh and anyway my usb audiocard is this [url=http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DZ92-External-USB-2-0-to-3D-Virtual-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-Converter-7-1-CH/1199069_1924531331.html]one[/url] which is probably one of the best you can find around at that price
[img]http://i.imgur.com/gRPWqtI.jpg[/img]
this is the easiest way to show you what i mean, after this im done, stay in your ignorance and presumption, i don't care
[quote=MasterKuni][quote=Setsul]Guys, the mystery is solved.
He is salty because he bought a bad USB sound card.[/quote]
I've read horror stories on head-fi where one of those bargain basement ebay USB sound cards was so poorly engineered that they blew up somebody's headphones. Would not recommend.[/quote]
the thing is most of those are like that because they're not engineered to work optimally and give you hd audio, they're just made to be used in emergencies or temporarily, oh and anyway my usb audiocard is this [url=http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DZ92-External-USB-2-0-to-3D-Virtual-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-Converter-7-1-CH/1199069_1924531331.html]one[/url] which is probably one of the best you can find around at that price
rock-There's no way on earth any 5$ usb audio card could be better than any motherboard built-in audio card
In the picture you posted, the traces from the audio connectors are running all the way across the motherboard to the DAC and filtering stage. This is how noise is introduced. The USB unit probably has worse filtering (with the cheap surface-mount non-elecrolytic caps), but it will probably have a much lower noise floor since it's hanging outside your case.
[quote=rock-]There's no way on earth any 5$ usb audio card could be better than any motherboard built-in audio card[/quote]
In the picture you posted, the traces from the audio connectors are running all the way across the motherboard to the DAC and filtering stage. This is how noise is introduced. The USB unit probably has worse filtering (with the cheap surface-mount non-elecrolytic caps), but it will probably have a much lower noise floor since it's hanging outside your case.
In the picture you posted, the traces from the audio connectors are running all the way across the motherboard to the DAC and filtering stage. This is how noise is introduced. The USB unit probably has worse filtering (with the cheap surface-mount non-elecrolytic caps), but it will probably have a much lower noise floor since it's hanging outside your case.
You can't argue with results.
bye rock glad to see you're leaving this thread
You can't argue with results.
bye rock glad to see you're leaving this thread
bye rock glad to see you're leaving this thread
MasterKunirock-There's no way on earth any 5$ usb audio card could be better than any motherboard built-in audio card
In the picture you posted, the traces from the audio connectors are running all the way across the motherboard to the DAC and filtering stage. This is how noise is introduced. The USB unit probably has worse filtering (with the cheap surface-mount non-elecrolytic caps), but it will probably have a much lower noise floor since it's hanging outside your case.
you know anything about shielding? that's the thing it's used to try and avoid those problems, also don't forget one is built-in, the other one is an addition, something that passes through another BUS (usb), try and think about anything that comes with that.
Knuckles_You can't argue with results.
bye rock glad to see you're leaving this thread
results?
[quote=MasterKuni][quote=rock-]There's no way on earth any 5$ usb audio card could be better than any motherboard built-in audio card[/quote]
In the picture you posted, the traces from the audio connectors are running all the way across the motherboard to the DAC and filtering stage. This is how noise is introduced. The USB unit probably has worse filtering (with the cheap surface-mount non-elecrolytic caps), but it will probably have a much lower noise floor since it's hanging outside your case.[/quote]
you know anything about shielding? that's the thing it's used to try and avoid those problems, also don't forget one is built-in, the other one is an addition, something that passes through another BUS (usb), try and think about anything that comes with that.
[quote=Knuckles_]You can't argue with results.
bye rock glad to see you're leaving this thread[/quote]
results?
In the picture you posted, the traces from the audio connectors are running all the way across the motherboard to the DAC and filtering stage. This is how noise is introduced. The USB unit probably has worse filtering (with the cheap surface-mount non-elecrolytic caps), but it will probably have a much lower noise floor since it's hanging outside your case.[/quote]
you know anything about shielding? that's the thing it's used to try and avoid those problems, also don't forget one is built-in, the other one is an addition, something that passes through another BUS (usb), try and think about anything that comes with that.
[quote=Knuckles_]You can't argue with results.
bye rock glad to see you're leaving this thread[/quote]
results?
you literally just post the same two pictures over and over again and try to prove your (very flawed) argument, whereas several people here who are actually knowledgeable on the subject are completely ignored by you. you are comparing onboard audio on a good motherboard to a shitty knockoff usb audio card probably from ebay. your counter arguments consist entirely of "do you know what you're talking about?" finally, you post the whole "after this im done" bailout since you know you're gonna get proven wrong.
i mean if you really believe in your stupid non-evidence then more power to you man, i don't know what more to say. good luck and god bless.
you literally just post the same two pictures over and over again and try to prove your (very flawed) argument, whereas several people here who are actually knowledgeable on the subject are completely ignored by you. you are comparing onboard audio on a good motherboard to a shitty knockoff usb audio card probably from ebay. your counter arguments consist entirely of "do you know what you're talking about?" finally, you post the whole "after this im done" bailout since you know you're gonna get proven wrong.
i mean if you really believe in your stupid non-evidence then more power to you man, i don't know what more to say. good luck and god bless.
i mean if you really believe in your stupid non-evidence then more power to you man, i don't know what more to say. good luck and god bless.
rock-after this im done
PLEASE WE WERE ALL SO EXCITED
[quote=rock-]after this im done[/quote]
PLEASE WE WERE ALL SO EXCITED
PLEASE WE WERE ALL SO EXCITED
mathsadyou literally just post the same two pictures over and over again and try to prove your (very flawed) argument, whereas several people here who are actually knowledgeable on the subject are completely ignored by you. you are comparing onboard audio on a good motherboard to a shitty knockoff usb audio card probably from ebay. finally, you post the whole "after this im done" since you know you're gonna get proven wrong.
i mean if you really believe in your stupid non-evidence then more power to you man, i don't know what more to say. good luck and god bless.
the fun fact is someone talked about 400$ motherboard, and apparently that's not the point, so whether my motherboard (asus p8z68-v pro/gen3) is good or bad the built in audio card is surely worse than any 5$ usb audio card, this is what has been said.
My argument might look flawed to some of you, because you don't know what you're talking about, that's why, and also who says they're knowledgeable on the subject, and i'm not, couldn't it be the opposite?
[quote=mathsad]you literally just post the same two pictures over and over again and try to prove your (very flawed) argument, whereas several people here who are actually knowledgeable on the subject are completely ignored by you. you are comparing onboard audio on a good motherboard to a shitty knockoff usb audio card probably from ebay. finally, you post the whole "after this im done" since you know you're gonna get proven wrong.
i mean if you really believe in your stupid non-evidence then more power to you man, i don't know what more to say. good luck and god bless.[/quote]
the fun fact is someone talked about 400$ motherboard, and apparently that's not the point, so whether my motherboard (asus p8z68-v pro/gen3) is good or bad the built in audio card is surely worse than any 5$ usb audio card, this is what has been said.
My argument might look flawed to some of you, because you don't know what you're talking about, that's why, and also who says they're knowledgeable on the subject, and i'm not, couldn't it be the opposite?
i mean if you really believe in your stupid non-evidence then more power to you man, i don't know what more to say. good luck and god bless.[/quote]
the fun fact is someone talked about 400$ motherboard, and apparently that's not the point, so whether my motherboard (asus p8z68-v pro/gen3) is good or bad the built in audio card is surely worse than any 5$ usb audio card, this is what has been said.
My argument might look flawed to some of you, because you don't know what you're talking about, that's why, and also who says they're knowledgeable on the subject, and i'm not, couldn't it be the opposite?
rock-My argument might look flawed to some of you, because you don't know what you're talking about, that's why, and also who says they're knowledgeable on the subject, and i'm not, couldn't it be the opposite?
it looks flawed because you are heavily generalizing and your evidence consists entirely of "look at this single shitty usb audio card i got from a chinese website, now look at the onboard audio on this motherboard. the chips on the motherboard are bigger, this means that all usb audio cards are worse than the one on my motherboard!" i hope you can understand how that is flawed and why it comes off that way.
i mean i'm not an expert at all but i know a few things about this and i trust setsul the resident pc expert way more than your stupid ass.
also since you're editing your posts faster than a coffee-riddled desk worker can enter data, here's a response to your edited post with the picture: if that's the best usb audio card you can get i'd hate to see the worst.
[quote=rock-]My argument might look flawed to some of you, because you don't know what you're talking about, that's why, and also who says they're knowledgeable on the subject, and i'm not, couldn't it be the opposite?[/quote]
it looks flawed because you are heavily generalizing and your evidence consists entirely of "look at this single shitty usb audio card i got from a chinese website, now look at the onboard audio on this motherboard. the chips on the motherboard are bigger, this means that all usb audio cards are worse than the one on my motherboard!" i hope you can understand how that is flawed and why it comes off that way.
i mean i'm not an expert at all but i know a few things about this and i trust setsul the resident pc expert way more than your stupid ass.
also since you're editing your posts faster than a coffee-riddled desk worker can enter data, here's a response to your edited post with the picture: if that's the best usb audio card you can get i'd hate to see the worst.
it looks flawed because you are heavily generalizing and your evidence consists entirely of "look at this single shitty usb audio card i got from a chinese website, now look at the onboard audio on this motherboard. the chips on the motherboard are bigger, this means that all usb audio cards are worse than the one on my motherboard!" i hope you can understand how that is flawed and why it comes off that way.
i mean i'm not an expert at all but i know a few things about this and i trust setsul the resident pc expert way more than your stupid ass.
also since you're editing your posts faster than a coffee-riddled desk worker can enter data, here's a response to your edited post with the picture: if that's the best usb audio card you can get i'd hate to see the worst.
mathsadrock-My argument might look flawed to some of you, because you don't know what you're talking about, that's why, and also who says they're knowledgeable on the subject, and i'm not, couldn't it be the opposite?it looks flawed because you are heavily generalizing and your evidence consists entirely of "look at this single shitty usb audio card i got from a chinese website, now look at the onboard audio on this motherboard. the chips on the motherboard are bigger, this means that all usb audio cards are worse than the one on my motherboard!" i hope you can understand how that is flawed and why it comes off that way.
i mean i'm not an expert at all but i know a few things about this and i trust setsul the resident pc expert way more than your stupid ass.
also since you're editing your posts faster than a coffee-riddled desk worker can enter data, here's a response to your edited post with the picture: if that's the best usb audio card you can get i'd hate to see the worst.
you seriously are retarded dude, i'm done
[quote=mathsad][quote=rock-]My argument might look flawed to some of you, because you don't know what you're talking about, that's why, and also who says they're knowledgeable on the subject, and i'm not, couldn't it be the opposite?[/quote]
it looks flawed because you are heavily generalizing and your evidence consists entirely of "look at this single shitty usb audio card i got from a chinese website, now look at the onboard audio on this motherboard. the chips on the motherboard are bigger, this means that all usb audio cards are worse than the one on my motherboard!" i hope you can understand how that is flawed and why it comes off that way.
i mean i'm not an expert at all but i know a few things about this and i trust setsul the resident pc expert way more than your stupid ass.
also since you're editing your posts faster than a coffee-riddled desk worker can enter data, here's a response to your edited post with the picture: if that's the best usb audio card you can get i'd hate to see the worst.[/quote]
you seriously are retarded dude, i'm done
it looks flawed because you are heavily generalizing and your evidence consists entirely of "look at this single shitty usb audio card i got from a chinese website, now look at the onboard audio on this motherboard. the chips on the motherboard are bigger, this means that all usb audio cards are worse than the one on my motherboard!" i hope you can understand how that is flawed and why it comes off that way.
i mean i'm not an expert at all but i know a few things about this and i trust setsul the resident pc expert way more than your stupid ass.
also since you're editing your posts faster than a coffee-riddled desk worker can enter data, here's a response to your edited post with the picture: if that's the best usb audio card you can get i'd hate to see the worst.[/quote]
you seriously are retarded dude, i'm done
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