filthy cow eaters

Stealing anybody's pet animal and then burning them alive is fucked up no questions asked

But the cultural differences!!!

This isn't even entirely a western idea. I know it's hard to believe, but there are in fact human beings in China who do own dogs as pets, even if it's very "unpopular" politically speaking. From an article I used the google.com website to attain:

"In a video posted on YouTube, Gung said an estimated 90 percent of the dogs killed at the festival each year are stolen from urban households and farmers by thieves who then turn around and sell them. “Stealing and selling a dog is easy money,” she said."

Obviously, everyone jumps on westerners trying to "change their culture" because it's very niche and edgy to go against the cultural beliefs of your acquaintances, but the idea very much stems from people having their pets (and to some dog owners, best friends) stolen from their households to burn alive and torture. I don't think anyone, from anywhere or any background enjoys having their pet stolen from them to murder.

However, much like many of the epic debates on TFTV, there is a simple solution. If you don't want to support saving pets from being tortured, merely shut the fuck up! If you do, however, there is ample opportunity to help.

You're kind of missing the point. Raising cows for meat is far more efficient than raising carnivorous animals for meat. No one at any point said it's more efficient to raise cows.

As for your point about methane and beef, I've always been pretty skeptical of the extremist animal rights nutjobs with a convenient environmental slant that claim livestock produce more greenhouse gases than industry, energy and transport. Or that vegetarianism/veganism is better for the environment.

Here's an interesting article on the topic: http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/in-defense-of-the-cow-how-eating-meat-could-help-slow-climate-change.html

i wonder how you guys will react when you find out muslims slit the throat of the animal and let it bleed out while it's conscious in order to make the meat halal

We might react as unreasonably as creating a petition on change.org

Some men just want to watch the world burn bro

Both Kosher and Halal meat are slaughtered similarly

While this statement is 100% true. I think the majority of the disgust comes from the idea that they're eating dogs, which wasn't uncommon at all for a lot of the world until recently.
Formally, the country has not banned the eating of dog, but has banned similar festivals. The townspeople seemed to have barely known about the festival at all, meaning it is definitely a minority. There IS a cultural meaning to the eating of dog during this specific time (something about staving off a shitty winter). While I really love the nonchalance put into your post and the sarcastic, clearly intelligent because I can make a mediocre counterpoint vibe throughout all of it, the final sentence seems to miss that the crime and the festival are separate. The theft of the dog from a household is separate from the cultural aspect of that. While the festival may spark the theft, similar to the holidays increasing theft in America, that is no reason to ban the event as a whole.
Similarly, assuming we're pro-dog torture simply because we don't see the point in intervening in every countries business is pretty retarded. While I don't think this festival is a good idea, and don't support the act in general, I'm not gonna sit there and expect China to enforce this solely because a bunch of people don't want it to happen while it is not against their laws. If they want to enforce it, they can change their laws, however, we are being imperialistic in expecting this to change, we are forcing some sort of cultural force upon an country that is struggling to figure out it's own moral code. If you think that's a good thing, that's fantastic, but I don't believe it will warrant anything other than issues in the future.

lol really? is everyone here that uneducated, or are you just making assumptions

pretty sure people are angry at the way these creatures are killed, which is torture. the fact that people here spend time (and research and provide random anecdotes that they think justifies this) to vouch against this protest or petition is hilarious.

a petition to stop the islamic faith?

Totally. That's why halal and kosher meats are getting protested too. OH! or the ban on Foie Gras that's everywhere in western culture -- that's a thing, right?
Totally dude, really well educated. Great GED.

i have extra tickets if anyone wants them

I very much appreciate the support you've given my diction and tone in my post. I too love the similar vibe you've given off and, much like I have before, I will relish in the amazing opinions you've posted here and in stream chats. Nevertheless, I agree with a lot of what you're saying so I'm not really sure what the point is? I don't expect China to enforce this either. Personally, I think it's fucked up. I see this solely from the philosophy that we as humans should behave as humanely as possible. I think it's important to strive to be as humane as possible, and I don't place burning dogs alive in the spectrum of behaving humanely. I don't expect everyone to agree, and I don't expect my opinion to shake the Chinese government. But I do think it's perfectly fair that there is a petition being created, and I do think it's perfectly fair for high profile people to push their opinions over Twitter.

And the ending of my post was not an assumption that everyone supports dog torture at all. In fact, to think that I sincerely think you want to burn dogs alive is you being retarded. It really is as it reads; anyone who does not want to support something like this need not say anything, because you're already doing what you can by not putting your name into a petition. It's fine if you don't see the point. To be honest, I didn't sign any petition and I'm not on Twitter spreading the word. But to not see how this is clearly something that would spark human interest is being blind. I do see "a point." I do think that in the year 2015, the internet and popular belief should be able to fix things worth fixing.

have you ever been out of your country? out of your state? the world is a big place, you'll learn soon that there are protests for everything, and that human progress isn't made overnight.

We wouldn't actually create a petition. The point of my post was to highlight how innocuous a petition on change.org is. Humans should be lucky that people actually use this function. Being able to share popular ideas and harness a driving force behind an idea is a great thing. I guess to you that might be an overreaction? But I'd say petitions and their support are very par for the course in the year 2015. You're lucky I didn't highlight how different your example was. I let that slide.

the cruelty the chinese show toward animals and people seems to be rarely matched anywhere else

god damn chinks

looks delicious~

But seriously have you seen inside western factory farms? Criticizing this is hypocritical to say the least.

i have nothing to contribute so im gonna post edgy pictures and comments!1!1!!

why do we even let chinamen in the united states? they're so fucking barbaric fucking remove them

"I think if people see this footage they'll say, "oh my God that's horrible," and then go on eating their dinners."

what about lobsters? they are boiled alive

i need jesus

To be honest, if you looks deeper into Chinese laws, you'll find loads more of unjust laws (or lack thereof) including food regulation, pollution control, animal treatment, and more. It's not that Chinese people are bad people, it's that there's just too fucking many of them to do anything about.

People who are saying you should just cover your eyes and go off to lala-land when this kind of thing happens just because it's in another country are being unreasonable. It doesn't make the problem disappear and it just shows how shallow people can be when confronted with something they don't like.

Shit's definitely fucked up, but so are battery farms for eggs and the like.

Meat is damn tasty, but sometimes it really is ethically better to go vegetarian, at least if you can't source your meat and eggs from reliable sources.

I doubt it's going to stop much, even if the president of china does outlaw it. People are still gonna get dogs and torture them to eat them. But I signed the petition in the hope that it will help.

Dogs are friends, not food.

See, this is nothing like normal livestock slaughter. Normally cows and pigs are killed with a quick bolt to the brain stem, killing them immediately and painlessly. Chickens get their heads chopped off, and I'm not going to comment on that factually as I don't have them, but I'm pretty sure it's only painful for a fraction of a second and the fact that they run around is only due to the peripheral nervous system, which doesn't actually process information, only reacts. Lobsters and Crabs do not actually have the level of neural development to really feel pain the way mammals and birds do, so they actually don't really feel much. Foie Gras can be made humanely, and is more commonly being done just by giving the ducks a fuckload of food instead of the old fashioned tube feeding.

This chinese dog shit is just fucking retarded.

when times are hard

if someone put a gun to my head and told me to eat my nigga fido i'd tell them to pull the trigger...