Turned 15 refined into 1000 refined in two weeks. :]
http://imgur.com/a/TjvOG
{Life Story}
Well, this is my first time on these forums. :p
I've been a Tf2 fan since it first became F2P. That's how I first even heard about it at all. (So, yes I'm a F2P. :p)
Been a competitive fan since I first saw a game. I was hooked.
Recently I'd lost some interest in TF2, started to play CS:GO and got into the betting scene.
Sold all but one of my unusuals to CS:GO bet, got up 200$, wasn't responsible, lost 11 of 13 and bet too much (Kinda like today, but it worked out lol.). Kinda was done and retired of TF2..
But Saloon brought me back, I knew about it for a while and it finally launched. I already watched a little competitive still but betting just made it more fun for me. I've got betting in my blood, being born in Vegas and living in Nevada. c:
It got me back into loving competitive all over again and not just for the betting.
I got cleaned of the bit of stuff I had before that Stacked win. Just wasn't smart enough about the scene as I once was, and lost to aussie games I randomly bet for fun. :P But, although I'm just 19 I understand value very well in betting, being a big football and baseball fan and seeing the lines, etc, I have an eye for misjudged value. It sticks out to me and almost makes me go mad, wondering why people would take that, etc. I can't just take my favorite team if they're way overvalued. So although I bet for fun and I do have favorite teams, I bet for best value; best chances vs odds in my eyes, pretty much exclusively.. that's how you win. That's how I've won.
Now, I'm here. Feeling like I know a lot about the scene again.
And although my recent winnings have been a little random, like switching to Danger Dogs predicting I'd be screwed by Reason as I said on the matchpage and winning 600 refined lol, it's mostly been been very strategic betting, covering myself etc, lots of great underdog value coming through and just taking information away from games. But that's the winnings I'm proud of. I liked 4-25 a lot and thought they might cover my Dogs bet. I thought Dogs would have a chance with their full roster, kinda thought both Reason and TLR were due to give up some points and both 4-25 and DD are capable and mid-level. Was hoping one would come through and I'd triple my metal if 4-25 wins and 5x it if Dogs win :) I love bets that I felt I won before the games started just because of the odds, the value. That's a great feeling, that's what makes betting value worth it. But don't look at my random ass bets, if they're stupidly big and say "Oh, I should join him.". I just had a hunch and I played it.
I simply can give my advice and what I think the odds should be on a game, I also recommend neat betting, (Very low) 1, 2, 5, 10 (High) % increments of your "bankroll"; what you have to available to bet. That's mostly what I'll be doing from now on.
I might do a steam group for advice. If there's enough intrigue, like 5 people or more, I'll do it. The only reason I even write some of what I think and what I do because I think I can help and I want to help newer people into it. I'd like to think I'm a pretty good value reader and bettor, knowledgeable about most players and teams. If you feel like you need a little advice on a game add me on steam @ id/Fritowarrior if you want some completely free advice, my advice will always be free. Don't ask for free stuff and don't get mad if I'm wrong! It's betting, you are always risking and nothing is easy.
I also have posted on the saloon matchpages a lot as "Coop". Click the chat bubbles to where the writeup is and I post comments all the time giving some analysis. Can post my full bet history if you want to see the whole story, not very interesting though except for showing I suck at Highlander betting. :p Oh, and..
Thx Sideshow 4 keys!!11! Kappa
I donated them to Ascent. >:P Thx for supporting 'merica.
Turned 15 refined into 1000 refined in two weeks. :]
http://imgur.com/a/TjvOG
{Life Story}
Well, this is my first time on these forums. :p
I've been a Tf2 fan since it first became F2P. That's how I first even heard about it at all. (So, yes I'm a F2P. :p)
Been a competitive fan since I first saw a game. I was hooked.
Recently I'd lost some interest in TF2, started to play CS:GO and got into the betting scene.
Sold all but one of my unusuals to CS:GO bet, got up 200$, wasn't responsible, lost 11 of 13 and bet too much (Kinda like today, but it worked out lol.). Kinda was done and retired of TF2..
But Saloon brought me back, I knew about it for a while and it finally launched. I already watched a little competitive still but betting just made it more fun for me. I've got betting in my blood, being born in Vegas and living in Nevada. c:
It got me back into loving competitive all over again and not just for the betting.
I got cleaned of the bit of stuff I had before that Stacked win. Just wasn't smart enough about the scene as I once was, and lost to aussie games I randomly bet for fun. :P But, although I'm just 19 I understand value very well in betting, being a big football and baseball fan and seeing the lines, etc, I have an eye for misjudged value. It sticks out to me and almost makes me go mad, wondering why people would take that, etc. I can't just take my favorite team if they're way overvalued. So although I bet for fun and I do have favorite teams, I bet for best value; best chances vs odds in my eyes, pretty much exclusively.. that's how you win. That's how I've won.
Now, I'm here. Feeling like I know a lot about the scene again.
And although my recent winnings have been a little random, like switching to Danger Dogs predicting I'd be screwed by Reason as I said on the matchpage and winning 600 refined lol, it's mostly been been very strategic betting, covering myself etc, lots of great underdog value coming through and just taking information away from games. But that's the winnings I'm proud of. I liked 4-25 a lot and thought they might cover my Dogs bet. I thought Dogs would have a chance with their full roster, kinda thought both Reason and TLR were due to give up some points and both 4-25 and DD are capable and mid-level. Was hoping one would come through and I'd triple my metal if 4-25 wins and 5x it if Dogs win :) I love bets that I felt I won before the games started just because of the odds, the value. That's a great feeling, that's what makes betting value worth it. But don't look at my random ass bets, if they're stupidly big and say "Oh, I should join him.". I just had a hunch and I played it.
I simply can give my advice and what I think the odds should be on a game, I also recommend neat betting, (Very low) 1, 2, 5, 10 (High) % increments of your "bankroll"; what you have to available to bet. That's mostly what I'll be doing from now on.
[size=16] I might do a steam group for advice. If there's enough intrigue, like 5 people or more, I'll do it. [/size] The only reason I even write some of what I think and what I do because I think I can help and I want to help newer people into it. I'd like to think I'm a pretty good value reader and bettor, knowledgeable about most players and teams. If you feel like you need a little advice on a game add me on steam [size=16] @ id/Fritowarrior [/size] if you want some completely free advice, [size=16] my advice will always be free. [/size] Don't ask for free stuff and don't get mad if I'm wrong! It's betting, you are always risking and nothing is easy.
I also have posted on the saloon matchpages a lot as [size=16] "Coop". [/size] Click the chat bubbles to where the writeup is and I post comments all the time giving some analysis. Can post my full bet history if you want to see the whole story, not very interesting though except for showing I suck at Highlander betting. :p Oh, and..
Thx Sideshow 4 keys!!11! Kappa
I donated them to Ascent. >:P Thx for supporting 'merica.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/47ddYiH.gif[/img]
nice you made about 5 keys :D
nice you made about 5 keys :D
thats like a lot of time and effort
thats like a lot of time and effort
We should focus on the bigger issue at hand here
Stacked finally won a game for once
We should focus on the bigger issue at hand here
Stacked finally won a game for once
janedoethats like a lot of time and effort
I believe the idea is that it's fun.
[quote=janedoe]thats like a lot of time and effort[/quote]
I believe the idea is that it's fun.
we deserve like 50% of these wins though :P
well...
you're welcome
we deserve like 50% of these wins though :P
well...
you're welcome
Well if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to lose it all in a game because hilldreth can't into demo
Well if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to [url=http://i.imgur.com/vhFwB0g.png]lose it all in a game[/url] because hilldreth can't into demo
I thought the OP was that he turned 15 refined into 1 grand but nah he just turned pixels into more pixels.
I thought the OP was that he turned 15 refined into 1 grand but nah he just turned pixels into more pixels.
Frito = coopplays this explains so much you lucky lil shit
I'll get those keys back eventually
Frito = coopplays this explains so much you lucky lil shit
I'll get those keys back eventually
How can I turn it into marketing that works for me?
How can I turn it into marketing that works for me?
CHERRYHow can I turn it into marketing that works for me?
"Bettor makes 1000 ref in 2 weeks using this one simple trick. Bookies hate him!"
[quote=CHERRY]How can I turn it into marketing that works for me?[/quote]
"Bettor makes 1000 ref in 2 weeks using this [b]one simple trick.[/b] Bookies [i]hate[/i] him!"
KanecoWell if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to lose it all in a game because hilldreth can't into demo
Haha, yeah early on I was noticing you were on fire a little bit. We tended to go similiar games. I was on Highpander pretty big, thought the odds were more 75-25 but Tseini basically single handedly destroyed them. Didn't factor him in as much as I should've. Still I thought for sure Pander would play well. Guess that's what Chessclub betters thought too against Stacked. Going to be hard to keep me from betting the dog in the next showmatch lol. But much respect to ya.
[quote=Kaneco]Well if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to [url=http://i.imgur.com/vhFwB0g.png]lose it all in a game[/url] because hilldreth can't into demo[/quote]
Haha, yeah early on I was noticing you were on fire a little bit. We tended to go similiar games. I was on Highpander pretty big, thought the odds were more 75-25 but Tseini basically single handedly destroyed them. Didn't factor him in as much as I should've. Still I thought for sure Pander would play well. Guess that's what Chessclub betters thought too against Stacked. Going to be hard to keep me from betting the dog in the next showmatch lol. But much respect to ya.
CHERRYHow can I turn it into marketing that works for me?
Unless I'm the hero that helps people learn things about betting, otherwise I'd rather just be marketed as a guy that could use his winnings to fill his swimming pool *puts on sunglasses*.. with metal. YEEEEEEAAAHHHH! If you need a picture of me next to my swimming pool and photoshop it full of metal, lemme know k?
[quote=CHERRY]How can I turn it into marketing that works for me?[/quote]
Unless I'm the hero that helps people learn things about betting, otherwise I'd rather just be marketed as a guy that could use his winnings to fill his swimming pool *puts on sunglasses*.. with metal. YEEEEEEAAAHHHH! If you need a picture of me next to my swimming pool and photoshop it full of metal, lemme know k?
SideshowFrito = coopplays this explains so much you lucky lil shit
I'll get those keys back eventually
Well you took Ascent, so you got one. :) Won my 6 key donation from them and Muffin last night. x'D I donated 6 keys to the winner of the Ascent-Froyo game and I still profited 60 refined. o.o Just been too lucky lately. :p
[quote=Sideshow]Frito = coopplays this explains so much you lucky lil shit
I'll get those keys back eventually[/quote]
Well you took Ascent, so you got one. :) Won my 6 key donation from them and Muffin last night. x'D I donated 6 keys to the winner of the Ascent-Froyo game and I still profited 60 refined. o.o Just been too lucky lately. :p
kr4toswe deserve like 50% of these wins though :P
well...
you're welcome
You guys played amazing, I knew you had it in you. :) Gladly Sheepy seemed to have no ill effects from just getting his computer fixed, said it'd be two days during a match and your next match was 2 days later lol. A fan of you guys, if you stay ahead of 4-25 it's playoffs for you. :)
[quote=kr4tos]we deserve like 50% of these wins though :P
well...
you're welcome[/quote]
You guys played amazing, I knew you had it in you. :) Gladly Sheepy seemed to have no ill effects from just getting his computer fixed, said it'd be two days during a match and your next match was 2 days later lol. A fan of you guys, if you stay ahead of 4-25 it's playoffs for you. :)
flip burgers at mcdonalds for 1 hour in california and you got 15$ = 7 keys
i dont understand much people betting maybe its an english thing
flip burgers at mcdonalds for 1 hour in california and you got 15$ = 7 keys
i dont understand much people betting maybe its an english thing
x3flip burgers at mcdonalds for 1 hour and you got 15$ = 7 keys
i dont understand much people betting maybe its an english thing
That's not the point. The point is to, A) give advice to people that are just getting into it and B) To have fun watching games. I don't care about the real world money aspect of it and I'm not selling shit. It's just for fun.
[quote=x3]flip burgers at mcdonalds for 1 hour and you got 15$ = 7 keys
i dont understand much people betting maybe its an english thing[/quote]
That's not the point. The point is to, A) give advice to people that are just getting into it and B) To have fun watching games. I don't care about the real world money aspect of it and I'm not selling shit. It's just for fun.
janedoethats like a lot of time and effort
Not really, to post what I think about a game. Try to research a little but it's really like a 15 minute process per game. xD
[quote=janedoe]thats like a lot of time and effort[/quote]
Not really, to post what I think about a game. Try to research a little but it's really like a 15 minute process per game. xD
there are people that have turned $50 to $20k+ in csgo i thihnk you are all betting in the wrong game
there are people that have turned $50 to $20k+ in csgo i thihnk you are all betting in the wrong game
2cthere are people that have turned $50 to $20k+ in csgo i thihnk you are all betting in the wrong game
Already went down there as I've stated. Yes, I've probably helped a few get to 20,000. LOL. Went so cold, too many rage bets too. :p Learned from that lol.
[quote=2c]there are people that have turned $50 to $20k+ in csgo i thihnk you are all betting in the wrong game[/quote]
Already went down there as I've stated. Yes, I've probably helped a few get to 20,000. LOL. Went so cold, too many rage bets too. :p Learned from that lol.
x3flip burgers at mcdonalds for 1 hour in california and you got 15$ = 7 keys
i dont understand much people betting maybe its an english thing
Not everyone leaves in California, $200 is plenty in Chernihiv ;)
Well.. maybe not plenty, but enough to go by for a month.
[quote=x3]flip burgers at mcdonalds for 1 hour in california and you got 15$ = 7 keys
i dont understand much people betting maybe its an english thing[/quote]
Not everyone leaves in California, $200 is plenty in Chernihiv ;)
Well.. maybe not plenty, but enough to go by for a month.
x3flip burgers at mcdonalds for 1 hour in california and you got 15$ = 7 keys
i dont understand much people betting maybe its an english thing
Not even close. I live in California and no McDoanlds around here would pay even close to $15 unless maybe if you were a manager. About $9/hr is more reasonable. And that is pre-tax. So after taxes maybe you are left with $7/hr, less than half of what you stated.
[quote=x3]flip burgers at mcdonalds for 1 hour in california and you got 15$ = 7 keys
i dont understand much people betting maybe its an english thing[/quote]
Not even close. I live in California and no McDoanlds around here would pay even close to $15 unless maybe if you were a manager. About $9/hr is more reasonable. And that is pre-tax. So after taxes maybe you are left with $7/hr, less than half of what you stated.
Won 482 on Muffin tonight. :) Again, just fading myself. I loved Meat Market's chances, just like I thought Reason was easy. xD Just went for it. :p Not that much skill went into this one. Also played all dogs to try to get it back and lost 80 of it back. xD Was on a big losing streak that should've continued, but now I'm up 130 on the week. :D
RIP SIDESHOW AGAIN. ;_;
Won 482 on Muffin tonight. :) Again, just fading myself. I loved Meat Market's chances, just like I thought Reason was easy. xD Just went for it. :p Not that much skill went into this one. Also played all dogs to try to get it back and lost 80 of it back. xD Was on a big losing streak that should've continued, but now I'm up 130 on the week. :D
RIP SIDESHOW AGAIN. ;_;
SideshowFrito = coopplays this explains so much you lucky lil shit
I'll get those keys back eventually
:( Lol.. Sorry Sideshow. x'D I loved Meat Market as well. Just yolo'd, lmao. :D No idea how Meat managed to lose, they sure let Muffin gain confidence, they should've had it easily honestly. Muffin were playing scared the whole first half, was very lucky to get the 1 round.
Thx 4 keys again though. <3
[quote=Sideshow]Frito = coopplays this explains so much you lucky lil shit
I'll get those keys back eventually[/quote]
:( Lol.. Sorry Sideshow. x'D I loved Meat Market as well. Just yolo'd, lmao. :D No idea how Meat managed to lose, they sure let Muffin gain confidence, they should've had it easily honestly. Muffin were playing scared the whole first half, was very lucky to get the 1 round.
Thx 4 keys again though. <3
FritoKanecoWell if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to lose it all in a game because hilldreth can't into demo
Haha, yeah early on I was noticing you were on fire a little bit. We tended to go similiar games. I was on Highpander pretty big, thought the odds were more 75-25 but Tseini basically single handedly destroyed them. Didn't factor him in as much as I should've. Still I thought for sure Pander would play well. Guess that's what Chessclub betters thought too against Stacked. Going to be hard to keep me from betting the dog in the next showmatch lol. But much respect to ya.
That stacked bet was fairly easy tho, amazing odds as well, I just regret not going more all in, I mean, 15-85% odds for a basically mix team vs a stable team with a lot of chemistry? That's crazy, probably a lot of people just saw chessclub name and associated it with the ones who beat Highpander, what they didn't realise or didn't research was that it was the Chessclub Lan team (for deustshlan) which was comprised by like 3-4 people of the original roster + a mix of mid-top High players so of course they got rolled hard by a mid Prem but stable team like stacked.
I made most of what I lost back from Highpander there, but latter went on to lose it again by betting on Fnx against 4-25, to be fair I researched their pcws and both last pcws Fnx played against 4-25 they destroyed them pretty hard and the odds were crazy good to pass on (25-75 or something) so I just went all in on that, in hindsight it was a pretty close game and I would have made bank if I won that bet so I dont really regret it.
Since losing that, seeing as I lost most my keys and buds and had exams as well I put a little hold on betting, so I haven't been betting as much lately but the Yomies and Grime games won me a well needed bank to start betting again.
[quote=Frito][quote=Kaneco]Well if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to [url=http://i.imgur.com/vhFwB0g.png]lose it all in a game[/url] because hilldreth can't into demo[/quote]
Haha, yeah early on I was noticing you were on fire a little bit. We tended to go similiar games. I was on Highpander pretty big, thought the odds were more 75-25 but Tseini basically single handedly destroyed them. Didn't factor him in as much as I should've. Still I thought for sure Pander would play well. Guess that's what Chessclub betters thought too against Stacked. Going to be hard to keep me from betting the dog in the next showmatch lol. But much respect to ya.[/quote]
That stacked bet [url=http://i.imgur.com/dwYyYs5.png]was fairly easy tho[/url], amazing odds as well, I just regret not going more all in, I mean, 15-85% odds for a basically mix team vs a stable team with a lot of chemistry? That's crazy, probably a lot of people just saw chessclub name and associated it with the ones who beat Highpander, what they didn't realise or didn't research was that it was the Chessclub Lan team (for deustshlan) which was comprised by like 3-4 people of the original roster + a mix of mid-top High players so of course they got rolled hard by a mid Prem but stable team like stacked.
I made most of what I lost back from Highpander there, but latter went on to lose it again by [url=http://i.imgur.com/jPNt5u8.png]betting on Fnx[/url] against 4-25, to be fair I researched their pcws and both last pcws Fnx played against 4-25 they destroyed them pretty hard and the odds were crazy good to pass on (25-75 or something) so I just went all in on that, in hindsight it was a pretty close game and I would have made bank if I won that bet so I dont really regret it.
Since losing that, seeing as I lost most my keys and buds and had exams as well I put a little hold on betting, so I haven't been betting as much lately but the [url=http://i.imgur.com/cWbTgnD.png]Yomies[/url] and [url=http://i.imgur.com/JZlllOr.png]Grime[/url] games won me a well needed bank to start betting again.
KanecoFritoKanecoWell if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to lose it all in a game because hilldreth can't into demo
Haha, yeah early on I was noticing you were on fire a little bit. We tended to go similiar games. I was on Highpander pretty big, thought the odds were more 75-25 but Tseini basically single handedly destroyed them. Didn't factor him in as much as I should've. Still I thought for sure Pander would play well. Guess that's what Chessclub betters thought too against Stacked. Going to be hard to keep me from betting the dog in the next showmatch lol. But much respect to ya.
That stacked bet was fairly easy tho, amazing odds as well, I just regret not going more all in, I mean, 15-85% odds for a basically mix team vs a stable team with a lot of chemistry? That's crazy, probably a lot of people just saw chessclub name and associated it with the ones who beat Highpander, what they didn't realise or didn't research was that it was the Chessclub Lan team (for deustshlan) which was comprised by like 3-4 people of the original roster + a mix of mid-top High players so of course they got rolled hard by a mid Prem but stable team like stacked.
I made most of what I lost back from Highpander there, but latter went on to lose it again by betting on Fnx against 4-25, to be fair I researched their pcws and both last pcws Fnx played against 4-25 they destroyed them pretty hard and the odds were crazy good to pass on (25-75 or something) so I just went all in on that, in hindsight it was a pretty close game and I would have made bank if I won that bet so I dont really regret it.
Since losing that, seeing as I lost most my keys and buds and had exams as well I put a little hold on betting, so I haven't been betting as much lately but the Yomies and Grime games won me a well needed bank to start betting again.
I was on Fnx until the odds shifted, just decided to switch to 4-25 because I'm a little more of a fan of them. :p Keep working on getting it back! :D Focus on school though!
[quote=Kaneco][quote=Frito][quote=Kaneco]Well if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to [url=http://i.imgur.com/vhFwB0g.png]lose it all in a game[/url] because hilldreth can't into demo[/quote]
Haha, yeah early on I was noticing you were on fire a little bit. We tended to go similiar games. I was on Highpander pretty big, thought the odds were more 75-25 but Tseini basically single handedly destroyed them. Didn't factor him in as much as I should've. Still I thought for sure Pander would play well. Guess that's what Chessclub betters thought too against Stacked. Going to be hard to keep me from betting the dog in the next showmatch lol. But much respect to ya.[/quote]
That stacked bet [url=http://i.imgur.com/dwYyYs5.png]was fairly easy tho[/url], amazing odds as well, I just regret not going more all in, I mean, 15-85% odds for a basically mix team vs a stable team with a lot of chemistry? That's crazy, probably a lot of people just saw chessclub name and associated it with the ones who beat Highpander, what they didn't realise or didn't research was that it was the Chessclub Lan team (for deustshlan) which was comprised by like 3-4 people of the original roster + a mix of mid-top High players so of course they got rolled hard by a mid Prem but stable team like stacked.
I made most of what I lost back from Highpander there, but latter went on to lose it again by [url=http://i.imgur.com/jPNt5u8.png]betting on Fnx[/url] against 4-25, to be fair I researched their pcws and both last pcws Fnx played against 4-25 they destroyed them pretty hard and the odds were crazy good to pass on (25-75 or something) so I just went all in on that, in hindsight it was a pretty close game and I would have made bank if I won that bet so I dont really regret it.
Since losing that, seeing as I lost most my keys and buds and had exams as well I put a little hold on betting, so I haven't been betting as much lately but the [url=http://i.imgur.com/cWbTgnD.png]Yomies[/url] and [url=http://i.imgur.com/JZlllOr.png]Grime[/url] games won me a well needed bank to start betting again.[/quote]
I was on Fnx until the odds shifted, just decided to switch to 4-25 because I'm a little more of a fan of them. :p Keep working on getting it back! :D Focus on school though!
KanecoWell if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to lose it all in a game because hilldreth can't into demo
The house always wins: https://saloon.tf/staff/
[quote=Kaneco]Well if you're like me, I won like 30+ bets on a spree (literally didn't lose a bet for like 1 month) and made 3-4 buds profit only to [url=http://i.imgur.com/vhFwB0g.png]lose it all in a game[/url] because hilldreth can't into demo[/quote]
The house always wins: https://saloon.tf/staff/