I'd like to further explain and clarify some of the events that unfolded surrounding the Sigafoo/evlTV incident to shed some transparency on the situation. This is in response to how several members of the community are interpreting the situation.
The TL:DR of this situation is that I did drop ball on communication, but we've had issues with Sigafoo that lead to our grand finals casting decision. I am the admin that Sigafoo mentions, and I feel it's best as that admin of evlTV to give our side of the story.
There are many factors that finalized our lineup for tonight's cast. Sigafoo was not adapting well to working with another PxP (play by play) caster, Gecks. It's a very difficult thing to do, and is in no way a negative reflection on his casting abilities. We told Sigafoo he would be good for grand finals, so as long as he would be good working with Gecks. During some of the play-offs casts Sigafoo indicated to me that he did not like working with Gecks because of this incompatibility, and went on to say that he felt Gecks should be cut.
Our issues with Sigafoo started earlier than this. He made it clear to us that since he covered a good majority of the games, that he should be placed on the Grand Finals so that he could receive the exposure he wanted. He also came off to us as he only casted for evlTV/eXtv because he was interested in gaining more exposure for himself, rather than representing evlTV as a casting organization. When asked to cast with us, Sigafoo asked for a significant stake in our business. Our budget normally goes to things such as servers and production; Sigafoo wanted more control of evlTV than casting, and we refused. He said he would stick with eXtv, or until a time when we were able to get him a significant amount of exposure. He wanted more than what we could give him.
That being said, the blame for not telling Sigafoo sooner about these issues, as well as the issue of grand finals, does fall on us. I am one of the leading admins and communication for me has been difficult over the past few weeks. In addition to a full time job, I also have been working on EVL Gaming's migration project where I had to move close to 100 services from our Kansas City datacenter to our new Dallas network, completing most of this work over the weekend. I worked with the Battle Royale team to launch Battle Royale registration in a timely manner, and helped to coordinate evlTV casts. I definitely dropped the ball, and all of the various projects I'm working on are no excuse to the events that have gone down. Being a new casting organization we try to make choices based on what's best for the community at large, our fans, and our staff.
On behalf of evlTV, we will work on expanding our communications team so that it is not only me getting things done for the most part since I am juggling too many things. This is gonna require changes which we're currently implementing. evlTV started last November and is a very young organization. We felt that we should drive our decisions based on providing the best show possible, and doing what's best for our community and audience, for our staff, and for our organization.
We will do our best to be clearer with communication between our staff, our casters, and our audience in the near future. We are still learning the basics, and after the eXtv/evlTV partnership we've grown way larger than we ever expected. We have a lot to do, and we have a lot to learn as well that we will take to heart.
I'd like to further explain and clarify some of the events that unfolded surrounding the Sigafoo/evlTV incident to shed some transparency on the situation. This is in response to how several members of the community are interpreting the situation.
The TL:DR of this situation is that I did drop ball on communication, but we've had issues with Sigafoo that lead to our grand finals casting decision. I am the admin that Sigafoo mentions, and I feel it's best as that admin of evlTV to give our side of the story.
There are many factors that finalized our lineup for tonight's cast. Sigafoo was not adapting well to working with another PxP (play by play) caster, Gecks. It's a very difficult thing to do, and is in no way a negative reflection on his casting abilities. We told Sigafoo he would be good for grand finals, so as long as he would be good working with Gecks. During some of the play-offs casts Sigafoo indicated to me that he did not like working with Gecks because of this incompatibility, and went on to say that he felt Gecks should be cut.
Our issues with Sigafoo started earlier than this. He made it clear to us that since he covered a good majority of the games, that he should be placed on the Grand Finals so that he could receive the exposure he wanted. He also came off to us as he only casted for evlTV/eXtv because he was interested in gaining more exposure for himself, rather than representing evlTV as a casting organization. When asked to cast with us, Sigafoo asked for a significant stake in our business. Our budget normally goes to things such as servers and production; Sigafoo wanted more control of evlTV than casting, and we refused. He said he would stick with eXtv, or until a time when we were able to get him a significant amount of exposure. He wanted more than what we could give him.
That being said, the blame for not telling Sigafoo sooner about these issues, as well as the issue of grand finals, does fall on us. I am one of the leading admins and communication for me has been difficult over the past few weeks. In addition to a full time job, I also have been working on EVL Gaming's migration project where I had to move close to 100 services from our Kansas City datacenter to our new Dallas network, completing most of this work over the weekend. I worked with the Battle Royale team to launch Battle Royale registration in a timely manner, and helped to coordinate evlTV casts. I definitely dropped the ball, and all of the various projects I'm working on are no excuse to the events that have gone down. Being a new casting organization we try to make choices based on what's best for the community at large, our fans, and our staff.
On behalf of evlTV, we will work on expanding our communications team so that it is not only me getting things done for the most part since I am juggling too many things. This is gonna require changes which we're currently implementing. evlTV started last November and is a very young organization. We felt that we should drive our decisions based on providing the best show possible, and doing what's best for our community and audience, for our staff, and for our organization.
We will do our best to be clearer with communication between our staff, our casters, and our audience in the near future. We are still learning the basics, and after the eXtv/evlTV partnership we've grown way larger than we ever expected. We have a lot to do, and we have a lot to learn as well that we will take to heart.
Well paragraphs 3 and 4 are.. interesting
Thank you for coming forward with this, and for assuming responsibility for your part in it, I'm sure everybody appreciates that.
Well paragraphs 3 and 4 are.. interesting
Thank you for coming forward with this, and for assuming responsibility for your part in it, I'm sure everybody appreciates that.
Thanks for this, this is an example of how any organization or person should react in this situation.
Thanks for this, this is an example of how any organization or person should react in this situation.
sigafoo how u gonna just lie to my face like that in video format
https://soundcloud.com/octobersveryown/drake-back-to-back-freestyle
more drama please thats the only thing this game is good for anymore
sigafoo how u gonna just lie to my face like that in video format
https://soundcloud.com/octobersveryown/drake-back-to-back-freestyle
more drama please thats the only thing this game is good for anymore
Holy shit.
Ok then.
Not quite sure what to think right now.
Sigafoo, response? I really don't want a lot of these things to be true.
Holy shit.
Ok then.
Not quite sure what to think right now.
Sigafoo, response? I really don't want a lot of these things to be true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c4f4NJSB_4
Having known sigafoo in the past and talked to him on a regular basis for a little over a season. This sounds about right, though more than likely a tad over exaggerated and possibly out of context at some points, but their's no doubt sigafoo loves attention.
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Also statements like this
"When asked to cast with us, Sigafoo asked for a significant stake in our business. Our budget normally goes to things such as servers and production; Sigafoo wanted more control of evlTV than casting, and we refused. He said he would stick with eXtv, or until a time when we were able to get him a significant amount of exposure. He wanted more than what we could give him."
Really should have evidence with them.
Having known sigafoo in the past and talked to him on a regular basis for a little over a season. This sounds about right, though more than likely a tad over exaggerated and possibly out of context at some points, but their's no doubt sigafoo loves attention.
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Also statements like this [quote]"When asked to cast with us, Sigafoo asked for a significant stake in our business. Our budget normally goes to things such as servers and production; Sigafoo wanted more control of evlTV than casting, and we refused. He said he would stick with eXtv, or until a time when we were able to get him a significant amount of exposure. He wanted more than what we could give him."[/quote]
Really should have evidence with them.
I like this professional statement, but some evidence would definitely strengthen what you are saying here, especially since Sigafoo is such a popular figure in the Highlander community
I like this professional statement, but some evidence would definitely strengthen what you are saying here, especially since Sigafoo is such a popular figure in the Highlander community
[img]http://i.imgur.com/zc3C5X8.png[/img]
For those asking for evidence, the conversation Jeer and I had with Sigs happened in our Mumble. That night we were to talk to both him and Grizz about maybe coming over and casting for evlTV or some kind of partnership. Sigs told us he wouldn't cast for us due to lack of exposure and the inability to promote his brand like be could with eXtv. The whole conversation lasted a good hour or so and we had left Grizz out per Sigs request and we felt bad for not talking to Grizz sooner that evening.
This was before the evlTV X eXtv merge/partnership which happened a few days later. I apologize that the only evidence we really have was Jeer and I were part of that meeting and that's basically what happened.
For those asking for evidence, the conversation Jeer and I had with Sigs happened in our Mumble. That night we were to talk to both him and Grizz about maybe coming over and casting for evlTV or some kind of partnership. Sigs told us he wouldn't cast for us due to lack of exposure and the inability to promote his brand like be could with eXtv. The whole conversation lasted a good hour or so and we had left Grizz out per Sigs request and we felt bad for not talking to Grizz sooner that evening.
This was before the evlTV X eXtv merge/partnership which happened a few days later. I apologize that the only evidence we really have was Jeer and I were part of that meeting and that's basically what happened.
This kind of statement needs better proves. Just trowing that he wants stake, exposure and stuffs without saying why he asked that (he must had showed you guys some reasons) is really weird, besides, it has nothing to do with the comunication and betrail problem, thas was the reasons sigafoo used for leaving. If you want to respond sigafoo leaving, talk about what he really said, don't start leaking professional information such as money.
Edit: he explained about evidence
This kind of statement needs better proves. Just trowing that he wants stake, exposure and stuffs without saying why he asked that (he must had showed you guys some reasons) is really weird, besides, it has nothing to do with the comunication and betrail problem, thas was the reasons sigafoo used for leaving. If you want to respond sigafoo leaving, talk about what he really said, don't start leaking professional information such as money.
Edit: he explained about evidence
that clown plays engie idk why you guys need proof he's unstable at best.
that clown plays engie idk why you guys need proof he's unstable at best.
GueqsThis kind of statement needs better proves. Just trowing that he wants stake, exposure and stuffs without saying why he asked that (he must had showed you guys some reasons) is really weird, besides, it has nothing to do with the comunication and betrail problem, thas was the reasons sigafoo used for leaving. If you want to respond sigafoo leaving, talk about what he really said, don't start leaking professional information such as money.
I feel like this is somewhat of a double standard. Sigafoo made lots of statements about awful things I supposedly said to him, yet nobody once asked him for evidence, and he doesn't have it because a lot of it is exaggerated.
I had evidence for all of the stuff above, and sent it to my team. Unfortunately I don't have it anymore, and our slack history ate all of it up. I can hear the "that's a BS excuse jeer!" coming, but at this point I'm done. If you don't want to believe these statements we've made then don't. Sigafoo is a great guy, and I'm not trying to ruin his reputation, even though he's messed ours up considerably. I'm simply trying to defend the evlTV organization, because it is doing some really positive stuff for the community, and I won't want that to be spoiled by a decision to improve our show.
[quote=Gueqs]This kind of statement needs better proves. Just trowing that he wants stake, exposure and stuffs without saying why he asked that (he must had showed you guys some reasons) is really weird, besides, it has nothing to do with the comunication and betrail problem, thas was the reasons sigafoo used for leaving. If you want to respond sigafoo leaving, talk about what he really said, don't start leaking professional information such as money.[/quote]
I feel like this is somewhat of a double standard. Sigafoo made lots of statements about awful things I supposedly said to him, yet nobody once asked him for evidence, and he doesn't have it because a lot of it is exaggerated.
I had evidence for all of the stuff above, and sent it to my team. Unfortunately I don't have it anymore, and our slack history ate all of it up. I can hear the "that's a BS excuse jeer!" coming, but at this point I'm done. If you don't want to believe these statements we've made then don't. Sigafoo is a great guy, and I'm not trying to ruin his reputation, even though he's messed ours up considerably. I'm simply trying to defend the evlTV organization, because it is doing some really positive stuff for the community, and I won't want that to be spoiled by a decision to improve our show.
Also lets be clear, If ELVtv was to release the private chatlog pastebin proof your guys are so hungry for how unprofessional of them would that be, I am sure it would incite some real indignation. I for one hope to see the chat logs and have already started my essay why releasing private conversations is wrong.
Also lets be clear, If ELVtv was to release the private chatlog pastebin proof your guys are so hungry for how unprofessional of them would that be, I am sure it would incite some real indignation. I for one hope to see the chat logs and have already started my essay why releasing private conversations is wrong.
Lost a lot of respect for Sigafoo from this.
Damn.
Lost a lot of respect for Sigafoo from this.
Damn.
JohnMilterwhy releasing private conversations is wrong.
It is wrong but what can you really do about it? Sometimes things need to be shared with the public, sometimes its a play by somebody who wants attention, either way you have to read into it to find out whether or not it's important. Dont write an essay like that
[quote=JohnMilter]why releasing private conversations is wrong.[/quote]
It is wrong but what can you really do about it? Sometimes things need to be shared with the public, sometimes its a play by somebody who wants attention, either way you have to read into it to find out whether or not it's important. Dont write an essay like that
please don't let what i was saying go that far over your head "Sherm-Stick"
please don't let what i was saying go that far over your head "Sherm-Stick"
To be fair to you guys, asking for prove is quite of a harassing. In the part of sigafoo cracking yours reputation, i guess it didin't, a lot of people still values the work of you guys, myself as one, but are just sad the way the situation end up, people really wanted siga for the final cast (Gecks is a fenomenal caster) since he was doing an amazing job during the season. Anyway, let's hope fot the best in the next casts
To be fair to you guys, asking for prove is quite of a harassing. In the part of sigafoo cracking yours reputation, i guess it didin't, a lot of people still values the work of you guys, myself as one, but are just sad the way the situation end up, people really wanted siga for the final cast (Gecks is a fenomenal caster) since he was doing an amazing job during the season. Anyway, let's hope fot the best in the next casts
JohnMilterplease don't let what i was saying go that far over your head "Sherm-Stick"
I understand lots of high school kids play this game and that they oftentimes write essays. The essay on the morality of releasing the content of private conversations is a terrible essay prompt. Your essays gunna get the D
[quote=JohnMilter]please don't let what i was saying go that far over your head "Sherm-Stick"[/quote]
I understand lots of high school kids play this game and that they oftentimes write essays. The essay on the morality of releasing the content of private conversations is a terrible essay prompt. Your essays gunna get the D
Sherm-StickJohnMilterplease don't let what i was saying go that far over your head "Sherm-Stick"
I understand lots of high school kids play this game and that they oftentimes write essays. The essay on the morality of releasing the content of private conversations is a terrible essay prompt. Your essays gunna get the D
i wouldnt be surprised if jm is older than u lmao
[quote=Sherm-Stick][quote=JohnMilter]please don't let what i was saying go that far over your head "Sherm-Stick"[/quote]
I understand lots of high school kids play this game and that they oftentimes write essays. The essay on the morality of releasing the content of private conversations is a terrible essay prompt. Your essays gunna get the D[/quote]
i wouldnt be surprised if jm is older than u lmao
http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561197971991612
Btw u r mums gotta the D but not from me i dont fuck dumpsters
Btw u r mums gotta the D but not from me i dont fuck dumpsters
sherm-stick how tall r u?
sherm-stick how tall r u?
JohnMilterBtw u r mums gotta the D but not from me i dont fuck dumpsters
Naughty boys make naughty trolls lol. I finished college 2 years ago and I am 6' 7", no lies boys. But I am positive john fucks dumpsters, he writes essays about the morality of releasing private conversations and that is definitely dumpster diving territory.
[quote=JohnMilter]Btw u r mums gotta the D but not from me i dont fuck dumpsters[/quote]
Naughty boys make naughty trolls lol. I finished college 2 years ago and I am 6' 7", no lies boys. But I am positive john fucks dumpsters, he writes essays about the morality of releasing private conversations and that is definitely dumpster diving territory.
Sherm-StickJohnMilterBtw u r mums gotta the D but not from me i dont fuck dumpsters
Naughty boys make naughty trolls lol. I finished college 2 years ago and I am 6' 7", no lies boys. But I am positive john fucks dumpsters, he writes essays about the morality of releasing private conversations and that is definitely dumpster diving territory.
stop talking
[quote=Sherm-Stick][quote=JohnMilter]Btw u r mums gotta the D but not from me i dont fuck dumpsters[/quote]
Naughty boys make naughty trolls lol. I finished college 2 years ago and I am 6' 7", no lies boys. But I am positive john fucks dumpsters, he writes essays about the morality of releasing private conversations and that is definitely dumpster diving territory.[/quote]
stop talking
3 posts later and he still thinks milter is writing an essay
3 posts later and he still thinks milter is writing an essay
Just wanted to help someone out with their essay, didn't mean to pinch ur balls bud
Just wanted to help someone out with their essay, didn't mean to pinch ur balls bud
Sherm-twig got tossed into the campfire, kid can't take the heat.
Sherm-twig got tossed into the campfire, kid can't take the heat.