The whole point of his videos is to try and get a reaction out of the people he's filming.
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Its definitely the silence that gets to people. He doesn't communicate or ask questions and barely responds to their inquiries.
Its definitely the silence that gets to people. He doesn't communicate or ask questions and barely responds to their inquiries.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=efc_1372140864
This is the best one :D
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=efc_1372140864
This is the best one :D
This is the best one :D
Do you guys actually think this man is doing anything wrong? He's exposing how corrupt this country truly is. This is a free nation, and he wishes to express his rights by filming, which is probably his passion as well. People can't handle it because they probably have something to hide. Notice how when people take pictures in broad daylight it's not a big deal? That's because their secrets aren't hidden there, no one would expose anything to the public like that. The second he catches people off guard in a scenario where they don't expect to be filmed they are instantly on the defensive. Does that not seem suspicious to you? Honestly it's making me suspicious that so many of you are on the defensive.
-dem
Do you guys actually think this man is doing anything wrong? He's exposing how corrupt this country truly is. This is a free nation, and he wishes to express his rights by filming, which is probably his passion as well. People can't handle it because they probably have something to hide. Notice how when people take pictures in broad daylight it's not a big deal? That's because their secrets aren't hidden there, no one would expose anything to the public like that. The second he catches people off guard in a scenario where they don't expect to be filmed they are instantly on the defensive. Does that not seem suspicious to you? Honestly it's making me suspicious that so many of [i]you[/i] are on the defensive.
-dem
-dem
I get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?
I get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?
MumaI get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?
He isn't. That's the whole point.
[quote=Muma]I get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?[/quote]
He isn't. That's the whole point.
He isn't. That's the whole point.
DemariniDo you guys actually think this man is doing anything wrong? He's exposing how corrupt this country truly is. This is a free nation, and he wishes to express his rights by filming, which is probably his passion as well. People can't handle it because they probably have something to hide. Notice how when people take pictures in broad daylight it's not a big deal? That's because their secrets aren't hidden there, no one would expose anything to the public like that. The second he catches people off guard in a scenario where they don't expect to be filmed they are instantly on the defensive. Does that not seem suspicious to you? Honestly it's making me suspicious that so many of you are on the defensive.
-dem
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[quote=Demarini]Do you guys actually think this man is doing anything wrong? He's exposing how corrupt this country truly is. This is a free nation, and he wishes to express his rights by filming, which is probably his passion as well. People can't handle it because they probably have something to hide. Notice how when people take pictures in broad daylight it's not a big deal? That's because their secrets aren't hidden there, no one would expose anything to the public like that. The second he catches people off guard in a scenario where they don't expect to be filmed they are instantly on the defensive. Does that not seem suspicious to you? Honestly it's making me suspicious that so many of [i]you[/i] are on the defensive.
-dem[/quote]
nice signature bro
-tmoney <3
-dem[/quote]
nice signature bro
-tmoney <3
DrPloxoBonafideCondescendingCandlestickConstantly walking in on classes, people telling him to please leave and consistantly not listening to them asking him politely to turn the camera off is not provoking? smhBonafidehe's following people around with his camera and basically provoking/harassing them and then later put it on youtube for views, it's really sad imo.
but he never really provokes anyone... he just turns the camera on and points it at people
He's forthright about it. He's not hiding it at all. It's significantly different to put people on camera without their knowledge.
He just puts a camera on and there is no regulation against using images for non-monetized media. Beyond the places with No Trespassing signs or anything like that, he's not really doing anything explicitly wrong.
There's something to be said about the reactions. People thinking their privacy is being invaded by somebody recording things while they stand behind a building covered in windows is silly as fuck.
There are people that are sports about it. They're silly, like that lady trying to turn a trick. And I'm sure he has a lot of footage that doesn't show people being asses about it.
It's ridiculous to think that this guy, just recording casually, is doing anything worse than what people do on world star or when they record shows and other things. Making the videos of mundane things seems to be the biggest issue. If he were recording a fight or (barring the weird mall arrest, which only the mall was mad about) a police incident, what have you, but their reactions are overblown. When they call the cops, what do you think happens? Absolutely nothing, he's asked to leave the premises and does. He's simply showing that private lives exist on public property (admittedly, his camera in cars is slightly different). It may be some asinine philosophical political garbage, but he makes a valid point.
They get abrasive with him, but there's nothing different with him recording and him just walking by in life. Just weird shit tbh.
The only thing he's making is an ass of himself
BonafideI'm not sure but I think security camera's serve a different purpose than being an asshole
[quote=DrPloxo][quote=Bonafide][quote=CondescendingCandlestick][quote=Bonafide]he's following people around with his camera and basically provoking/harassing them and then later put it on youtube for views, it's really sad imo.[/quote]
but he never really provokes anyone... he just turns the camera on and points it at people[/quote]
Constantly walking in on classes, people telling him to please leave and consistantly not listening to them asking him politely to turn the camera off is not provoking? smh[/quote]
He's forthright about it. He's not hiding it at all. It's significantly different to put people on camera without their knowledge.
He just puts a camera on and there is no regulation against using images for non-monetized media. Beyond the places with No Trespassing signs or anything like that, he's not really doing anything explicitly wrong.
There's something to be said about the reactions. People thinking their privacy is being invaded by somebody recording things while they stand behind a building covered in windows is silly as fuck.
There are people that are sports about it. They're silly, like that lady trying to turn a trick. And I'm sure he has a lot of footage that doesn't show people being asses about it.
It's ridiculous to think that this guy, just recording casually, is doing anything worse than what people do on world star or when they record shows and other things. Making the videos of mundane things seems to be the biggest issue. If he were recording a fight or (barring the weird mall arrest, which only the mall was mad about) a police incident, what have you, but their reactions are overblown. When they call the cops, what do you think happens? Absolutely nothing, he's asked to leave the premises and does. He's simply showing that private lives exist on public property (admittedly, his camera in cars is slightly different). It may be some asinine philosophical political garbage, but he makes a valid point.
They get abrasive with him, but there's nothing different with him recording and him just walking by in life. Just weird shit tbh.[/quote]
The only thing he's making is an ass of himself
[quote=Bonafide]I'm not sure but I think security camera's serve a different purpose than being an asshole[/quote]
but he never really provokes anyone... he just turns the camera on and points it at people[/quote]
Constantly walking in on classes, people telling him to please leave and consistantly not listening to them asking him politely to turn the camera off is not provoking? smh[/quote]
He's forthright about it. He's not hiding it at all. It's significantly different to put people on camera without their knowledge.
He just puts a camera on and there is no regulation against using images for non-monetized media. Beyond the places with No Trespassing signs or anything like that, he's not really doing anything explicitly wrong.
There's something to be said about the reactions. People thinking their privacy is being invaded by somebody recording things while they stand behind a building covered in windows is silly as fuck.
There are people that are sports about it. They're silly, like that lady trying to turn a trick. And I'm sure he has a lot of footage that doesn't show people being asses about it.
It's ridiculous to think that this guy, just recording casually, is doing anything worse than what people do on world star or when they record shows and other things. Making the videos of mundane things seems to be the biggest issue. If he were recording a fight or (barring the weird mall arrest, which only the mall was mad about) a police incident, what have you, but their reactions are overblown. When they call the cops, what do you think happens? Absolutely nothing, he's asked to leave the premises and does. He's simply showing that private lives exist on public property (admittedly, his camera in cars is slightly different). It may be some asinine philosophical political garbage, but he makes a valid point.
They get abrasive with him, but there's nothing different with him recording and him just walking by in life. Just weird shit tbh.[/quote]
The only thing he's making is an ass of himself
[quote=Bonafide]I'm not sure but I think security camera's serve a different purpose than being an asshole[/quote]
tmoneyDemariniDo you guys actually think this man is doing anything wrong? He's exposing how corrupt this country truly is. This is a free nation, and he wishes to express his rights by filming, which is probably his passion as well. People can't handle it because they probably have something to hide. Notice how when people take pictures in broad daylight it's not a big deal? That's because their secrets aren't hidden there, no one would expose anything to the public like that. The second he catches people off guard in a scenario where they don't expect to be filmed they are instantly on the defensive. Does that not seem suspicious to you? Honestly it's making me suspicious that so many of you are on the defensive.
-dem
nice signature bro
-tmoney <3
Thank you for your support.
-dem
[quote=tmoney][quote=Demarini]Do you guys actually think this man is doing anything wrong? He's exposing how corrupt this country truly is. This is a free nation, and he wishes to express his rights by filming, which is probably his passion as well. People can't handle it because they probably have something to hide. Notice how when people take pictures in broad daylight it's not a big deal? That's because their secrets aren't hidden there, no one would expose anything to the public like that. The second he catches people off guard in a scenario where they don't expect to be filmed they are instantly on the defensive. Does that not seem suspicious to you? Honestly it's making me suspicious that so many of [i]you[/i] are on the defensive.
-dem[/quote]
nice signature bro
-tmoney <3[/quote]
Thank you for your support.
-dem
-dem[/quote]
nice signature bro
-tmoney <3[/quote]
Thank you for your support.
-dem
HedoKingogluMumaI get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?He isn't. That's the whole point.
Okay yes exactly. That doesn't tell me what the police do. Would they just tell them like yo shut the fuck up or like what? I'm curious.
[quote=HedoKingoglu][quote=Muma]I get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?[/quote]
He isn't. That's the whole point.[/quote]
Okay yes exactly. That doesn't tell me what the police do. Would they just tell them like yo shut the fuck up or like what? I'm curious.
He isn't. That's the whole point.[/quote]
Okay yes exactly. That doesn't tell me what the police do. Would they just tell them like yo shut the fuck up or like what? I'm curious.
MumaHedoKingogluOkay yes exactly. That doesn't tell me what the police do. Would they just tell them like yo shut the fuck up or like what? I'm curious.MumaI get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?He isn't. That's the whole point.
If it's not illegal then I assume they can't do anything really. Except maybe ask him kindly to stop recording but they can't force him to.
[quote=Muma][quote=HedoKingoglu][quote=Muma]I get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?[/quote]
He isn't. That's the whole point.[/quote]
Okay yes exactly. That doesn't tell me what the police do. Would they just tell them like yo shut the fuck up or like what? I'm curious.[/quote]
If it's not illegal then I assume they can't do anything really. Except maybe ask him kindly to stop recording but they can't force him to.
He isn't. That's the whole point.[/quote]
Okay yes exactly. That doesn't tell me what the police do. Would they just tell them like yo shut the fuck up or like what? I'm curious.[/quote]
If it's not illegal then I assume they can't do anything really. Except maybe ask him kindly to stop recording but they can't force him to.
DemariniDo you guys actually think this man is doing anything wrong? He's exposing how corrupt this country truly is. This is a free nation, and he wishes to express his rights by filming, which is probably his passion as well. People can't handle it because they probably have something to hide. Notice how when people take pictures in broad daylight it's not a big deal? That's because their secrets aren't hidden there, no one would expose anything to the public like that. The second he catches people off guard in a scenario where they don't expect to be filmed they are instantly on the defensive. Does that not seem suspicious to you? Honestly it's making me suspicious that so many of you are on the defensive.
-dem
you'll need to add a sarcasm tag since people take stupider things seriously
[quote=Demarini]Do you guys actually think this man is doing anything wrong? He's exposing how corrupt this country truly is. This is a free nation, and he wishes to express his rights by filming, which is probably his passion as well. People can't handle it because they probably have something to hide. Notice how when people take pictures in broad daylight it's not a big deal? That's because their secrets aren't hidden there, no one would expose anything to the public like that. The second he catches people off guard in a scenario where they don't expect to be filmed they are instantly on the defensive. Does that not seem suspicious to you? Honestly it's making me suspicious that so many of [i]you[/i] are on the defensive.
-dem[/quote]
you'll need to add a sarcasm tag since people take stupider things seriously
-dem[/quote]
you'll need to add a sarcasm tag since people take stupider things seriously
MumaHedoKingogluOkay yes exactly. That doesn't tell me what the police do. Would they just tell them like yo shut the fuck up or like what? I'm curious.MumaI get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?He isn't. That's the whole point.
Let your imagination pan that out. Cops come in asks what's happening, person who is being filmed says he/she is being filmed. The filmer points out that he does nothing illegal under US law so the police have no right to force him to stop filming.
Also the reason he remains silent most of the time when people ask "what the fuck are you doing?" is so when he gets reported, the first thing the police will try to look for will be provocation. Since all he ever says is "I am just taking a video" and "Calm down" it won't count as provocation so the guy who is recording all this has literally no faults under the american law.
Otherwise he would already be jailed.
[quote=Muma][quote=HedoKingoglu][quote=Muma]I get the point of the videos and stuff, but from a curiosity stance, what happens when the police show up? He's not doing anything illegal, right?[/quote]
He isn't. That's the whole point.[/quote]
Okay yes exactly. That doesn't tell me what the police do. Would they just tell them like yo shut the fuck up or like what? I'm curious.[/quote]
Let your imagination pan that out. Cops come in asks what's happening, person who is being filmed says he/she is being filmed. The filmer points out that he does nothing illegal under US law so the police have no right to force him to stop filming.
Also the reason he remains silent most of the time when people ask "what the fuck are you doing?" is so when he gets reported, the first thing the police will try to look for will be provocation. Since all he ever says is "I am just taking a video" and "Calm down" it won't count as provocation so the guy who is recording all this has literally no faults under the american law.
Otherwise he would already be jailed.
He isn't. That's the whole point.[/quote]
Okay yes exactly. That doesn't tell me what the police do. Would they just tell them like yo shut the fuck up or like what? I'm curious.[/quote]
Let your imagination pan that out. Cops come in asks what's happening, person who is being filmed says he/she is being filmed. The filmer points out that he does nothing illegal under US law so the police have no right to force him to stop filming.
Also the reason he remains silent most of the time when people ask "what the fuck are you doing?" is so when he gets reported, the first thing the police will try to look for will be provocation. Since all he ever says is "I am just taking a video" and "Calm down" it won't count as provocation so the guy who is recording all this has literally no faults under the american law.
Otherwise he would already be jailed.
The guy's not wrong about people being filmed on an everyday basis, but that film isn't posted to YouTube so people can get some laughs out of it. It's there to keep watch against wrong doing like traffic violations or shoplifting. To roll up on random people that are just out and about in the city and record them is pretty fucked up. It's not illegal, but it's incredibly rude and dangerous if you end up fucking with the wrong person.
The guy's not wrong about people being filmed on an everyday basis, but that film isn't posted to YouTube so people can get some laughs out of it. It's there to keep watch against wrong doing like traffic violations or shoplifting. To roll up on random people that are just out and about in the city and record them is pretty fucked up. It's not illegal, but it's incredibly rude and dangerous if you end up fucking with the wrong person.
The camera is forcing people to confront themselves or their perceptions of themselves. The camera doesn't lie or distort the truth. It captures things as they are. Which a lot of people seem to find terrifying.
The camera is forcing people to confront themselves or their perceptions of themselves. The camera doesn't lie or distort the truth. It captures things as they are. Which a lot of people seem to find terrifying.
still one of the best channels on youtube
hopefully he stays safe
still one of the best channels on youtube
hopefully he stays safe
hopefully he stays safe
As someone who works in journalism and has had to deal with a lot of media law/ethics I can clear up a few things for people. Taking photos/video in public is completely legal, as many of you are trying to argue.
However, it seems quite a few people are missing what is happening in these videos; harassment. Your rights in the United States do not give you permission to harass who you please. You are protected from harassment. To answer Muma's question: if the cops do show up, he would be forced to leave. They have every right as law enforcement to protect civilians from harassment. If he refused to listen, in most situations he would be arrested. It's really as simple as that.
My personal opinion is that this guy isn't accomplishing anything righteous. He's not making a point. He's just being an asshole. Maybe when this guy started out his intentions were in the right spot (I have no idea. I just watched two of the videos linked in this thread), but it's pretty clear that he's just doing it for views online now.
As someone who works in journalism and has had to deal with a lot of media law/ethics I can clear up a few things for people. Taking photos/video in public is completely legal, as many of you are trying to argue.
However, it seems quite a few people are missing what is happening in these videos; harassment. Your rights in the United States do not give you permission to harass who you please. You are protected from harassment. To answer Muma's question: if the cops do show up, he would be forced to leave. They have every right as law enforcement to protect civilians from harassment. If he refused to listen, in most situations he would be arrested. It's really as simple as that.
My personal opinion is that this guy isn't accomplishing anything righteous. He's not making a point. He's just being an asshole. Maybe when this guy started out his intentions were in the right spot (I have no idea. I just watched two of the videos linked in this thread), but it's pretty clear that he's just doing it for views online now.
However, it seems quite a few people are missing what is happening in these videos; harassment. Your rights in the United States do not give you permission to harass who you please. You are protected from harassment. To answer Muma's question: if the cops do show up, he would be forced to leave. They have every right as law enforcement to protect civilians from harassment. If he refused to listen, in most situations he would be arrested. It's really as simple as that.
My personal opinion is that this guy isn't accomplishing anything righteous. He's not making a point. He's just being an asshole. Maybe when this guy started out his intentions were in the right spot (I have no idea. I just watched two of the videos linked in this thread), but it's pretty clear that he's just doing it for views online now.
didn't watch the whole thing but is there a moment when somebody else takes out his camera/phone/whatever and starts filming HIM? people should consider that
didn't watch the whole thing but is there a moment when somebody else takes out his camera/phone/whatever and starts filming HIM? people should consider that
I honestly love these videos. Sure, he's a dick I won't try and argue that. Yet, a lot of the situations he is simply just filming. I'm not sure why people get so offended. There are much, much greater violations of our privacy that we WILLINGLY subscribe ourselves too. ie: Facebook & Google.
I honestly love these videos. Sure, he's a dick I won't try and argue that. Yet, a lot of the situations he is simply just filming. I'm not sure why people get so offended. There are much, much greater violations of our privacy that we WILLINGLY subscribe ourselves too. ie: Facebook & Google.
DanceNumberI honestly love these videos. Sure, he's a dick I won't try and argue that. Yet, a lot of the situations he is simply just filming. I'm not sure why people get so offended. There are much, much greater violations of our privacy that we WILLINGLY subscribe ourselves too. ie: Facebook & Google.
Notice the word willingly.
[quote=DanceNumber]I honestly love these videos. Sure, he's a dick I won't try and argue that. Yet, a lot of the situations he is simply just filming. I'm not sure why people get so offended. There are much, much greater violations of our privacy that we WILLINGLY subscribe ourselves too. ie: Facebook & Google.[/quote]
Notice the word [b]willingly[/b].
Notice the word [b]willingly[/b].
if you dont want to live in a place where people are allowed to film you then you are free to leave
if you dont want to live in a place where people are allowed to film you then you are free to leave
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if you dont want to live in a place where people are allowed to use your car whenever they want then you are free to leave
Avastif you dont want to live in a place where people are allowed to use your car whenever they want then you are free to leave
i don't know where you live but nobody is allowed to use my car
[quote=Avast]if you dont want to live in a place where people are allowed to use your car whenever they want then you are free to leave[/quote]
i don't know where you live but nobody is allowed to use my car
i don't know where you live but nobody is allowed to use my car
hooliAvastif you dont want to live in a place where people are allowed to use your car whenever they want then you are free to leavei don't know where you live but nobody is allowed to use my car
i agree thats why nobody is allowed to use my face without my permission
glad we're on the same page
[quote=hooli][quote=Avast]if you dont want to live in a place where people are allowed to use your car whenever they want then you are free to leave[/quote]
i don't know where you live but nobody is allowed to use my car[/quote]
i agree thats why nobody is allowed to use my face without my permission
glad we're on the same page
i don't know where you live but nobody is allowed to use my car[/quote]
i agree thats why nobody is allowed to use my face without my permission
glad we're on the same page
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