You are right. Butttt, I did try to take teamwork into consideration when I did the TEAM rankings. And also the pocket/medic rankings. Not so much the "top 5", which is pretty much why it is completely useless aside from getting people talking about something.
I would've ranked your team higher because of defined, unified calling (a statement I put in the team ranking) but from what I saw Bird Noises had very good focus in fights and Six Guys Off had a similar level of calling with marginally better players overall.
You are right. Butttt, I did try to take teamwork into consideration when I did the [b]TEAM[/b] rankings. And also the pocket/medic rankings. Not so much the "top 5", which is pretty much why it is completely useless aside from getting people talking about something.
I would've ranked your team higher because of defined, unified calling (a statement I put in the team ranking) but from what I saw Bird Noises had very good focus in fights and Six Guys Off had a similar level of calling with marginally better players overall.
XanYou are right. Butttt, I did try to take teamwork into consideration when I did the TEAM rankings. And also the pocket/medic rankings. Not so much the "top 5", which is pretty much why it is completely useless aside from getting people talking about something.
teamwork doesn't just come from teams playing together for a long time, it comes from some players who are more predisposed to working off their teammates, or frankly are just smarter or more dedicated to begin with
therefore it has to be factored into individual rankings for them to be accurate
[quote=Xan]You are right. Butttt, I did try to take teamwork into consideration when I did the [b]TEAM[/b] rankings. And also the pocket/medic rankings. Not so much the "top 5", which is pretty much why it is completely useless aside from getting people talking about something.[/quote]
teamwork doesn't just come from teams playing together for a long time, it comes from some players who are more predisposed to working off their teammates, or frankly are just smarter or more dedicated to begin with
therefore it has to be factored into individual rankings for them to be accurate
cookiejake is by far the best medic i have ever played with. the fact that he's not even on your top 5 in IM is beyond me...
cookiejake is by far the best medic i have ever played with. the fact that he's not even on your top 5 in IM is beyond me...
mustardoverlordXanYou are right. Butttt, I did try to take teamwork into consideration when I did the TEAM rankings. And also the pocket/medic rankings. Not so much the "top 5", which is pretty much why it is completely useless aside from getting people talking about something.
teamwork doesn't just come from teams playing together for a long time, it comes from some players who are more predisposed to working off their teammates, or frankly are just smarter or more dedicated to begin with
therefore it has to be factored into individual rankings for them to be accurate
I have literally put every factor you have come up with into my rankings for both the team and individual. Would it soothe you if I went player to player and explained in explicit painful detail. Frankly the fact that you think I haphazardly threw these together is more insulting than anything.
[quote=mustardoverlord][quote=Xan]You are right. Butttt, I did try to take teamwork into consideration when I did the [b]TEAM[/b] rankings. And also the pocket/medic rankings. Not so much the "top 5", which is pretty much why it is completely useless aside from getting people talking about something.[/quote]
teamwork doesn't just come from teams playing together for a long time, it comes from some players who are more predisposed to working off their teammates, or frankly are just smarter or more dedicated to begin with
therefore it has to be factored into individual rankings for them to be accurate[/quote]
I have literally put every factor you have come up with into my rankings for both the team and individual. Would it soothe you if I went player to player and explained in explicit painful detail. Frankly the fact that you think I haphazardly threw these together is more insulting than anything.
XanmustardoverlordXanYou are right. Butttt, I did try to take teamwork into consideration when I did the TEAM rankings. And also the pocket/medic rankings. Not so much the "top 5", which is pretty much why it is completely useless aside from getting people talking about something.
teamwork doesn't just come from teams playing together for a long time, it comes from some players who are more predisposed to working off their teammates, or frankly are just smarter or more dedicated to begin with
therefore it has to be factored into individual rankings for them to be accurate
I have literally put every factor you have come up with into my rankings for both the team and individual. Would it soothe you if I went player to player and explained in explicit painful detail. Frankly the fact that you think I haphazardly threw these together is more insulting than anything.
you literally just said you didn't take teamwork into account for individual player rankings at all
and your rankings are so terrible (and your reasoning behind said rankings so contradictory and nonsensical) that it's impossible to think you DIDN'T haphazardly throw them together
[quote=Xan][quote=mustardoverlord][quote=Xan]You are right. Butttt, I did try to take teamwork into consideration when I did the [b]TEAM[/b] rankings. And also the pocket/medic rankings. Not so much the "top 5", which is pretty much why it is completely useless aside from getting people talking about something.[/quote]
teamwork doesn't just come from teams playing together for a long time, it comes from some players who are more predisposed to working off their teammates, or frankly are just smarter or more dedicated to begin with
therefore it has to be factored into individual rankings for them to be accurate[/quote]
I have literally put every factor you have come up with into my rankings for both the team and individual. Would it soothe you if I went player to player and explained in explicit painful detail. Frankly the fact that you think I haphazardly threw these together is more insulting than anything.[/quote]
you literally just said you didn't take teamwork into account for individual player rankings at all
and your rankings are so terrible (and your reasoning behind said rankings so contradictory and nonsensical) that it's impossible to think you DIDN'T haphazardly throw them together
Be honest Mustard, are you just being a baby because you didn't make the pocket list again. Because that is how it started each time, with you believing you deserved it somehow.
Be honest Mustard, are you just being a baby because you didn't make the pocket list again. Because that is how it started each time, with you believing you deserved it somehow.
One final clarification, when I did the individual rankings for for Demoman, Pocket, and Roamer I didn't put a lot of stake of teamwork. The reason behind that particular decision was the fact that this is a pre-season ranking. It is entirely too hard to project how two random people over the internet will gel.
I tried to do so a little bit more with scouts and pocket/medic, but unless there was continuity that was just as hard. For scouts I tried to weigh how they played with past teams and the role they played along with DM and what I perceived to be their level of game-sense and decision making. But unless I had comms and extensive interviews with past teammates I can't be 100% accurate.
But justifying myself at this point is going nowhere. No amount of reason will convince you of anything, I can at least assure you my image of players as people had no bearing on their rating.
One final clarification, when I did the individual rankings for for Demoman, Pocket, and Roamer I didn't put a lot of stake of teamwork. The reason behind that particular decision was the fact that this is a pre-season ranking. It is entirely too hard to project how two random people over the internet will gel.
I tried to do so a little bit more with scouts and pocket/medic, but unless there was continuity that was just as hard. For scouts I tried to weigh how they played with past teams and the role they played along with DM and what I perceived to be their level of game-sense and decision making. But unless I had comms and extensive interviews with past teammates I can't be 100% accurate.
But justifying myself at this point is going nowhere. No amount of reason will convince you of anything, I can at least assure you my image of players as people had no bearing on their rating.
STOP POSTING BOTH OF YOU RETARDS ANOTHER POST FROM MUSTARD OR XAN IM DUMPING HELL OF DRAMA OUT ON BOTH OF YOUR TEAMS
STOP POSTING BOTH OF YOU RETARDS ANOTHER POST FROM MUSTARD OR XAN IM DUMPING HELL OF DRAMA OUT ON BOTH OF YOUR TEAMS
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fucking cheap logitech plastic smh
fucking cheap logitech plastic smh
that gif is actually adorable
that gif is actually adorable
that might be the best tf2 gif ever
i'm sorry slin
that might be the best tf2 gif ever
i'm sorry slin
did u really put me below stochastic
i mean yeegz is good but what the fuck man lol
did u really put me below stochastic
i mean yeegz is good but what the fuck man lol
[img]http://puu.sh/kdZVH/ea148f9854.png[/img]
http://logs.tf/1014908?highlight=76561198038288779
isabellemustard where would u rank my boy pie_hero on scout
http://imgur.com/3Ew8zMy
[quote=isabelle]mustard where would u rank my boy pie_hero on scout[/quote]
http://imgur.com/3Ew8zMy
If pie hero would just play with some halfway decent teammates he'd be a lot better off.
If pie hero would just play with some halfway decent teammates he'd be a lot better off.
Owl, Pie_hero may be the most skilled player on our team in the DM department and has the most experience out of all of us but we all play an important part on our team.
Xen, our roamer, is a force so unpredictable that even we don't know exactly what he's doing. He is an engima but not as good. He may not really tell us when he's bombing in but in silence he succeeds. His bombs are so sneaky that it is often hard to determine if their medic was fragged or they hit their kill bind.
KevinIsPwn may not have the strongest DM in the esea-average division but his drive to be the best rivals those of invite players sandbagging in open. His part in developing tf2stadium.com will also give our team somewhere to play when we die mid-season.
Freddy plays a disconnected style of demo that may not look the greatest on the stats page, but its not always about how much damage gets done. Sometimes its about where it comes from.
sometimes I look at my HP and its not at 185 so im not gonna write anything about u pascal sorry :/
My DM may be incredibly inconsistent and I may occasionally feed the other team a frag twelve times a game but I am among the best at baiting playing off others damage andcapping points winning games.
You may not understand this mr. owl, but even if our medic pascal is afk because she has to clean the cat hair out of her mousepad for the 3rd time this month our team has a buff greater than any other's, the buff of friendship.
Owl, Pie_hero may be the most skilled player on our team in the DM department and has the most experience out of all of us but we all play an important part on our team.
Xen, our roamer, is a force so unpredictable that even we don't know exactly what he's doing. He is an engima but not as good. He may not really tell us when he's bombing in but in silence he succeeds. His bombs are so sneaky that it is often hard to determine if their medic was fragged or they hit their kill bind.
KevinIsPwn may not have the strongest DM in the esea-average division but his drive to be the best rivals those of invite players sandbagging in open. His part in developing tf2stadium.com will also give our team somewhere to play when we die mid-season.
Freddy plays a disconnected style of demo that may not look the greatest on the stats page, but its not always about how much damage gets done. Sometimes its about where it comes from.
sometimes I look at my HP and its not at 185 so im not gonna write anything about u pascal sorry :/
My DM may be incredibly inconsistent and I may occasionally feed the other team a frag twelve times a game but I am among the best at [s]baiting[/s] playing off others damage and[s]capping points[/s] winning games.
You may not understand this mr. owl, but even if our medic pascal is afk because she has to clean the cat hair out of her mousepad for the 3rd time this month our team has a buff greater than any other's, the buff of friendship.
If u spent 1 minute in a dm server for every word of that post you might have mid open dm myles
If u spent 1 minute in a dm server for every word of that post you might have mid open dm myles
http://www.twitch.tv/oryourmoneyback/c/2718670
anytime i hear or think about capn fapn i think of this
http://www.twitch.tv/oryourmoneyback/c/2718670
anytime i hear or think about capn fapn i think of this
wait so am i above or below mustard in the pocket ranking
wait so am i above or below mustard in the pocket ranking
mustard is clearly better than you because he's been playing pocket for longer didn't you read any of xans reasoning
mustard is clearly better than you because he's been playing pocket for longer didn't you read any of xans reasoning
Corsacookiejake is by far the best medic i have ever played with. the fact that he's not even on your top 5 in IM is beyond me...
am I just out of the loop if I don't know wether or not this is a meme
[quote=Corsa]cookiejake is by far the best medic i have ever played with. the fact that he's not even on your top 5 in IM is beyond me...[/quote]
am I just out of the loop if I don't know wether or not this is a meme
cookie jake is actually good at medic but corsa is trolling like normal
cookie jake is actually good at medic but corsa is trolling like normal
you guys are underestimating sen
h5 and sen can contest for the best scout combo spot in IM
you guys are underestimating sen
h5 and sen can contest for the best scout combo spot in IM