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The Tough Break Update
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#91
9 Frags +

Valve used to hide secret links that redirect to hidden bonuses in their updates. Seeing the bottom of the page, we might want to check later if they dont add one on the crate, socks or maybe they even add some new prop on top of the firepalce (its kinda empty right now)

They havent done this in a while tho :(

Valve used to hide secret links that redirect to hidden bonuses in their updates. Seeing the bottom of the page, we might want to check later if they dont add one on the crate, socks or maybe they even add some new prop on top of the firepalce (its kinda empty right now)

They havent done this in a while tho :(
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#92
-2 Frags +

now spy can sap buildings right after stabbing the engineer!

now spy can sap buildings right after stabbing the engineer!
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#93
1 Frags +
BleghfuricReserve Shooter
- No longer boosts all-around switch speed, instead boosts switch-to speed by 20% and switch-from speed by 15%
- No longer mini-crits any airborne target (i.e. jumping). Target must be forced in to the air via blastjump, knockback, airblast, or grapple
[quote=Bleghfuric]
[b]Reserve Shooter[/b]
- No longer boosts all-around switch speed, instead boosts switch-to speed by 20% and switch-from speed by 15%
- No longer mini-crits any airborne target (i.e. jumping). Target must be forced in to the air via blastjump, knockback, airblast, or grapple [/quote]
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#94
19 Frags +

Holy shit those medic changes...

https://gist.github.com/kbrougham/7090528

Here is a link to my vaccinator script which separates resistances onto separate keys (need to hit multiple times) that is usable in a competitive setting. Enjoy medic mains.

Yipyapperreserve shooter isn't OP anymore,

If you think that the bug is what made the reserve shooter OP you're sorely mistaken.

Holy shit those medic changes...

https://gist.github.com/kbrougham/7090528

Here is a link to my vaccinator script which separates resistances onto separate keys (need to hit multiple times) that is usable in a competitive setting. Enjoy medic mains.

[quote=Yipyapper]reserve shooter isn't OP anymore, [/quote]

If you think that the bug is what made the reserve shooter OP you're sorely mistaken.
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#95
5 Frags +

did some math and the switch speed nerfs on degreaser are relatively small, itll be noticeable on holster but easy enough to adjust to. the reduced number of airblasts probably wont be that bad either

the switch speed buffs along with the falloff buff and degreaser nerfs might make stock somewhat viable again, but mostly only if the airblast reduction really bothers you that uch

otherwise i REALLY dont like the shield charge debuff removal but that's about it

did some math and the switch speed nerfs on degreaser are relatively small, itll be noticeable on holster but easy enough to adjust to. the reduced number of airblasts probably wont be that bad either

the switch speed buffs along with the falloff buff and degreaser nerfs might make stock somewhat viable again, but mostly only if the airblast reduction really bothers you that uch

otherwise i REALLY dont like the shield charge debuff removal but that's about it
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#96
1 Frags +

Nice one SeemsGood

Nice one SeemsGood
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#97
11 Frags +

all these changes are great (except wrap assassin and quickiebomb launcher buffs?) but valve still needs to fix the crit a cola for this game to be balanced

edit: and the atomizer, holy shit scout is retarded

all these changes are great (except wrap assassin and quickiebomb launcher buffs?) but valve still needs to fix the crit a cola for this game to be balanced

edit: and the atomizer, holy shit scout is retarded
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#98
7 Frags +

http://www.jepix.fr/images/latin.png

"but in order to explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great"

?????????
damnit google

anyone speaks fluent latin here

[img]http://www.jepix.fr/images/latin.png[/img]

[b]"but in order to explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great"[/b]

?????????
damnit google

anyone speaks fluent latin here
99
#99
8 Frags +

Time to unban everything? (or almost everything)

Time to unban everything? (or almost everything)
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#100
8 Frags +
Spycyhttp://www.jepix.fr/images/latin.png

"but in order to explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great"

?????????
damnit google

anyone speaks fluent latin here

That's part of lorem ipsum, just filler text that web developers use to have some content in a web element - it's commented out with <!-- --> because that container was just unused. Nothing significant / secret lol, just placeholder text

[quote=Spycy][img]http://www.jepix.fr/images/latin.png[/img]

[b]"but in order to explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great"[/b]

?????????
damnit google

anyone speaks fluent latin here[/quote]

That's part of lorem ipsum, just filler text that web developers use to have some content in a web element - it's commented out with <!-- --> because that container was just unused. Nothing significant / secret lol, just placeholder text
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#101
5 Frags +
Valve-Base weapon switch speed changed from 0.67 seconds to 0.5 seconds
-Medics now have slightly higher health regeneration when healing a hurt patient
-Consecutive Airblasts will no longer prevent enemies from air-strafing until they touch the ground
Crusader's Crossbow
-Healing a player with an arrow now grants a small amount of ÜberCharge

Biggest changes imo. Awesome update

[quote=Valve]
-Base weapon switch speed changed from 0.67 seconds to 0.5 seconds
-Medics now have slightly higher health regeneration when healing a hurt patient
-Consecutive Airblasts will no longer prevent enemies from air-strafing until they touch the ground
[b]Crusader's Crossbow[/b]
-Healing a player with an arrow now grants a small amount of ÜberCharge
[/quote]
Biggest changes imo. Awesome update
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#102
0 Frags +
Spycyhttp://www.jepix.fr/images/latin.png

"but in order to explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great"

?????????
damnit google

anyone speaks fluent latin here

It's part of lorem ipsum

EDIT: ninja'd by jerm

[quote=Spycy][img]http://www.jepix.fr/images/latin.png[/img]

[b]"but in order to explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great"[/b]

?????????
damnit google

anyone speaks fluent latin here[/quote]

It's part of lorem ipsum

EDIT: ninja'd by jerm
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#103
6 Frags +

I wonder if the jarate/mad milk cooldown reduction stacks. Would be pretty insane to instantly get it back for extinguishing 5 teammates.

Also that phlog buff

https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0

I wonder if the jarate/mad milk cooldown reduction stacks. Would be pretty insane to instantly get it back for extinguishing 5 teammates.

Also that phlog buff [img]https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0[/img]
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#104
47 Frags +

http://media.steampowered.com/apps/tf2/toughbreak/images/pyroland_sniperrifle_rainbow_wear1.png

quirky weaboo sniper mains everywhere celebrate

[img]http://media.steampowered.com/apps/tf2/toughbreak/images/pyroland_sniperrifle_rainbow_wear1.png[/img]

quirky weaboo sniper mains everywhere celebrate
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#105
28 Frags +

4:07 twiikuu: @truktruk

http://i.imgur.com/cVNq4Mg.png

4:07 twiikuu: @truktruk [img]http://i.imgur.com/cVNq4Mg.png[/img]
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#106
6 Frags +

reserve is still pyro's ez-mode weapon, not much changed there to justify an unban imo

pyro changes are cool, exactly sort of the changes I was hoping for since the reason everyone was terrified of nerfing pyro's bullshit was b/c his bullshit was all he had, so they're trying to give him other, less-bullshit positives to work w/

the crossbow change is neat as fuck, idk why they decided that weapon needed more reasons to be amazing but it's a cool little change regardless

concheror was already heavily underrated, double health regen is gonna be huge (assuming that the scaling when taking damage isn't too hefty)

reserve is still pyro's ez-mode weapon, not much changed there to justify an unban imo

pyro changes are cool, exactly sort of the changes I was hoping for since the reason everyone was terrified of nerfing pyro's bullshit was b/c his bullshit was all he had, so they're trying to give him other, less-bullshit positives to work w/

the crossbow change is neat as fuck, idk why they decided that weapon needed more reasons to be amazing but it's a cool little change regardless

concheror was already heavily underrated, double health regen is gonna be huge (assuming that the scaling when taking damage isn't too hefty)
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#107
0 Frags +
JermSpycyhttp://www.jepix.fr/images/latin.png

"but in order to explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great"

?????????
damnit google

anyone speaks fluent latin here

That's part of lorem ipsum, just filler text that web developers use to have some content in a web element - it's commented out with <!-- --> because that container was just unused. Nothing significant / secret lol, just placeholder text

Oh alright thanks for sharing knowledge for dummies like me o/

[quote=Jerm][quote=Spycy][img]http://www.jepix.fr/images/latin.png[/img]

[b]"but in order to explain to you how all this mistaken idea of denouncing pleasure and praising pain was a complete account of the system, and expound the actual teachings of the great"[/b]

?????????
damnit google

anyone speaks fluent latin here[/quote]

That's part of lorem ipsum, just filler text that web developers use to have some content in a web element - it's commented out with <!-- --> because that container was just unused. Nothing significant / secret lol, just placeholder text[/quote]
Oh alright thanks for sharing knowledge for dummies like me o/
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#108
12 Frags +

changes that will affect 6s+HL

- Base weapon switch speed changed from 0.67 seconds to 0.5 seconds
shotgun is now slightly better. Soldier and stock pyro probably benefit the most here. Passive secondaries like razorback and gunboats are now slightly less good, Shotgun pocket slightly better

- Upon spawning, friendly players will show an outline for 10 seconds
depends on how spies work with this, could be buggy

- No longer auto-fires when fully loaded. Shots can be held and released at will.
if you can holster it with 4 shots, its the new pocket meta

- When activating 'MMMPH', the taunting Pyro gains temporary invulnerability and immunity to knockback effects
free cap time if its still broken

- During setup time, ÜberCharge build rate is now increased by 3x
pre round krit stickies + uber or second kritz on PL/CP in HL.

- Engineer
slightly weaker in HL, spy gets a decent buff. Spy based pushes might happen now

changes that will affect 6s+HL

- Base weapon switch speed changed from 0.67 seconds to 0.5 seconds
shotgun is now slightly better. Soldier and stock pyro probably benefit the most here. Passive secondaries like razorback and gunboats are now slightly less good, Shotgun pocket slightly better

- Upon spawning, friendly players will show an outline for 10 seconds
depends on how spies work with this, could be buggy

- No longer auto-fires when fully loaded. Shots can be held and released at will.
if you can holster it with 4 shots, its the new pocket meta

- When activating 'MMMPH', the taunting Pyro gains temporary invulnerability and immunity to knockback effects
free cap time if its still broken

- During setup time, ÜberCharge build rate is now increased by 3x
pre round krit stickies + uber or second kritz on PL/CP in HL.

- Engineer
slightly weaker in HL, spy gets a decent buff. Spy based pushes might happen now
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#109
1 Frags +
deetrI wonder if the jarate/mad milk cooldown reduction stacks. Would be pretty insane to instantly get it back for extinguishing 5 teammates.

Also that phlog buff https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0

It's moreso a phlog nerf tbh. The damage while taunting was negligible because of the reduction already. It was already best to get in position and hold damage till after the taunt anyway.

However, being knockbacked immediately gave you the kritz from your phlog taunt without waiting, so if you got airblasted or something, you immediately krit that pyro's face. Not being able to do that (and do that "tactically") is probably more of a nerf than a buff.

[quote=deetr]I wonder if the jarate/mad milk cooldown reduction stacks. Would be pretty insane to instantly get it back for extinguishing 5 teammates.

Also that phlog buff [img]https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0[/img][/quote]

It's moreso a phlog nerf tbh. The damage while taunting was negligible because of the reduction already. It was already best to get in position and hold damage till after the taunt anyway.

However, being knockbacked immediately gave you the kritz from your phlog taunt without waiting, so if you got airblasted or something, you immediately krit that pyro's face. Not being able to do that (and do that "tactically") is probably more of a nerf than a buff.
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#110
4 Frags +
SpycyValve used to hide secret links that redirect to hidden bonuses in their updates. Seeing the bottom of the page, we might want to check later if they dont add one on the crate, socks or maybe they even add some new prop on top of the firepalce (its kinda empty right now)

They havent done this in a while tho :(

http://i.imgur.com/oV6aF1T.png

??????? There definitely could be more.

EDIT: nvm probably template, see pazer's post below

[quote=Spycy]Valve used to hide secret links that redirect to hidden bonuses in their updates. Seeing the bottom of the page, we might want to check later if they dont add one on the crate, socks or maybe they even add some new prop on top of the firepalce (its kinda empty right now)

They havent done this in a while tho :([/quote]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/oV6aF1T.png[/img]
[url=http://www.teamfortress.com/toughbreak/toughbreak.css]???????[/url] There definitely could be more.

EDIT: nvm probably template, see pazer's post below
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#111
12 Frags +

youre quoting a CSS file for data.

the odds of them not copying the CSS every single time they do an update is ridiculously slim.

youre quoting a CSS file for data.

the odds of them not copying the CSS every single time they do an update is ridiculously slim.
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#112
2 Frags +

accident gun is nerfed ty

accident gun is nerfed ty
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#113
0 Frags +
eeeSpy based pushes might happen now

I could seriously see this happening.

[quote=eee]
Spy based pushes might happen now[/quote]
I could seriously see this happening.
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#114
13 Frags +

If there's a day 2, it's probably going to include new weapons or such. I doubt they would split up the balance changes into 2 days.

If there's a day 2, it's probably going to include new weapons or such. I doubt they would split up the balance changes into 2 days.
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#115
6 Frags +
KairudeetrI wonder if the jarate/mad milk cooldown reduction stacks. Would be pretty insane to instantly get it back for extinguishing 5 teammates.

Also that phlog buff https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0

It's moreso a phlog nerf tbh. The damage while taunting was negligible because of the reduction already. It was already best to get in position and hold damage till after the taunt anyway.

However, being knockbacked immediately gave you the kritz from your phlog taunt without waiting, so if you got airblasted or something, you immediately krit that pyro's face. Not being able to do that (and do that "tactically") is probably more of a nerf than a buff.

The 75% damage reduction wasn't enough to stop a heavy/scout from killing you, now you literally can't die. If they went from the original 90% to full invuln it wouldn't be a big deal but this change is. Also you can't really balance something around people not knowing what it does. Everybody knew that airblasting or shooting a rocket would cancel the taunt, sometimes it was still worth it to do but now you don't even have the option.

[quote=Kairu][quote=deetr]I wonder if the jarate/mad milk cooldown reduction stacks. Would be pretty insane to instantly get it back for extinguishing 5 teammates.

Also that phlog buff [img]https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/33/1.0[/img][/quote]

It's moreso a phlog nerf tbh. The damage while taunting was negligible because of the reduction already. It was already best to get in position and hold damage till after the taunt anyway.

However, being knockbacked immediately gave you the kritz from your phlog taunt without waiting, so if you got airblasted or something, you immediately krit that pyro's face. Not being able to do that (and do that "tactically") is probably more of a nerf than a buff.[/quote]

The 75% damage reduction wasn't enough to stop a heavy/scout from killing you, now you literally can't die. If they went from the original 90% to full invuln it wouldn't be a big deal but this change is. Also you can't really balance something around people not knowing what it does. Everybody knew that airblasting or shooting a rocket would cancel the taunt, sometimes it was still worth it to do but now you don't even have the option.
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#116
1 Frags +
eee During setup time, ÜberCharge build rate is now increased by 3x
pre round krit stickies + uber or second kritz on PL/CP in HL.

I know in MVM if the Medic switches mediguns (from Krits to anything else) the Krit stickies disappear, I wonder if that's how it'll work in the actual game.

If not you still might see pre game krit stickies and then another kritz after the gates open

[quote=eee] During setup time, ÜberCharge build rate is now increased by 3x
pre round krit stickies + uber or second kritz on PL/CP in HL.[/quote]
I know in MVM if the Medic switches mediguns (from Krits to anything else) the Krit stickies disappear, I wonder if that's how it'll work in the actual game.

If not you still might see pre game krit stickies and then another kritz after the gates open
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#117
1 Frags +

the biggest threat when mmphing was spies or heavies, now you can just taunt in front of spawn doors and people have to wait ~5 seconds to get out

i also doubt they fixed the bug where you can use the crit flames to immediately build a second charge

the biggest threat when mmphing was spies or heavies, now you can just taunt in front of spawn doors and people have to wait ~5 seconds to get out

i also doubt they fixed the bug where you can use the crit flames to immediately build a second charge
118
#118
15 Frags +

The Tough Breakup Date

The Tough Breakup Date
119
#119
6 Frags +

i'm the happiest medic in the world rn

i'm the happiest medic in the world rn
120
#120
2 Frags +
eee- Upon spawning, friendly players will show an outline for 10 seconds
depends on how spies work with this, could be buggy

It's probably going to work exactly like it does in spectator mode; having a disguised spy also outlined and having the outline disappear when he cloaks or undisguises.

[quote=eee]- Upon spawning, friendly players will show an outline for 10 seconds
depends on how spies work with this, could be buggy[/quote]

It's probably going to work exactly like it does in spectator mode; having a disguised spy also outlined and having the outline disappear when he cloaks or undisguises.
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