Highlander article missing

#1

kKaltUu

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I was happy to see a prem HL article up yesterday, detailing how the ETF2L playoffs would go.

I'm not sure who wrote it otherwise I'd thank him, but the fact that TFTV is going to do more highlander coverage (which was lacking the past few months) was good news. I'm sure there are other people available too, to write these highlander articles, just have to ask!

This morning I felt like adding some clarification to the comments, but for some reason the article seems to be broken.
I get an error when visiting the article www.teamfortress.tv/30914/etf2ls-highlander-season-9-playoffs-begin
It doesn't show up on my comment history anymore either. Seems like a really weird bug

Mind looking into it? you guys doing more top level HL should always be encouraged so my excitement is a bit bummed by this

I was happy to see a prem HL article up yesterday, detailing how the ETF2L playoffs would go.

I'm not sure who wrote it otherwise I'd thank him, but the fact that TFTV is going to do more highlander coverage (which was lacking the past few months) was good news. I'm sure there are other people available too, to write these highlander articles, just have to ask!

This morning I felt like adding some clarification to the comments, but for some reason the article seems to be broken.
I get an error when visiting the article www.teamfortress.tv/30914/etf2ls-highlander-season-9-playoffs-begin
It doesn't show up on my comment history anymore either. Seems like a really weird bug

Mind looking into it? you guys doing more top level HL should always be encouraged so my excitement is a bit bummed by this

#2

Legit_Lurkki

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-( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)╯╲___卐卐卐卐 Don't mind me just taking my mods for a walk

#3

Bulow

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I didn't get to see this article, could the mods please fix this so I can peruse it? I'm a keen aficionado of Highlander.

#4

Hildreth

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Kkaltuu I think we both know why, I'll let tsc and co. explain it though.

#5

Bloodis

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Wondering why TFTV accepts NA HL content however, but not EU... At least we have the brains to know how to play against Razorback and how to push Badwater 3rd point and not complain about both enough much until they get changes done to them.

#6

Deathy

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BloodisWondering why TFTV accepts NA HL content however, but not EU... At least we have the brains to know how to play against Razorback and how to push Badwater 3rd point and not complain about both enough much until they get changes done to them.

Pretty sure TFTV stopped supporting NA HL as well

[quote=Bloodis]Wondering why TFTV accepts NA HL content however, but not EU... At least we have the brains to know how to play against Razorback and how to push Badwater 3rd point and not complain about both enough much until they get changes done to them.[/quote]

Pretty sure TFTV stopped supporting NA HL as well

#7

Bloodis

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DeathyBloodisWondering why TFTV accepts NA HL content however, but not EU... At least we have the brains to know how to play against Razorback and how to push Badwater 3rd point and not complain about both enough much until they get changes done to them.
Pretty sure TFTV stopped supporting NA HL as well

That's actually just better then, either have everything from all regions or only have the better gamemode. Good thing there was no 4v4 coverage yet

[quote=Deathy][quote=Bloodis]Wondering why TFTV accepts NA HL content however, but not EU... At least we have the brains to know how to play against Razorback and how to push Badwater 3rd point and not complain about both enough much until they get changes done to them.[/quote]

Pretty sure TFTV stopped supporting NA HL as well[/quote]

That's actually just better then, either have everything from all regions or only have the better gamemode. Good thing there was no 4v4 coverage yet

#8

kKaltUu

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DeathyBloodisWondering why TFTV accepts NA HL content however, but not EU... At least we have the brains to know how to play against Razorback and how to push Badwater 3rd point and not complain about both enough much until they get changes done to them.
Pretty sure TFTV stopped supporting NA HL as well

I've seen someone make posts about the UGC HL teams and predictions, which was frankly my only way to keep up with NA HL. Can't imagine they stopped the person writing those articles?

[quote=Deathy][quote=Bloodis]Wondering why TFTV accepts NA HL content however, but not EU... At least we have the brains to know how to play against Razorback and how to push Badwater 3rd point and not complain about both enough much until they get changes done to them.[/quote]

Pretty sure TFTV stopped supporting NA HL as well[/quote]
I've seen someone make posts about the UGC HL teams and predictions, which was frankly my only way to keep up with NA HL. Can't imagine they stopped the person writing those articles?

#9

Deathy

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kKaltUuDeathyBloodisWondering why TFTV accepts NA HL content however, but not EU... At least we have the brains to know how to play against Razorback and how to push Badwater 3rd point and not complain about both enough much until they get changes done to them.
Pretty sure TFTV stopped supporting NA HL as wellI've seen someone make posts about the UGC HL teams and predictions, which was frankly my only way to keep up with NA HL. Can't imagine they stopped the person writing those articles?

Quote from brooky12, writer of these articles:

brooky12Now, for a different tone. There's a lot of moving parts to this, a lot of things I just want to blurt out and say first. But here goes nothing. This will be the final of this series of articles that I will be releasing on this site. I wish I could be less specific than that, because that statement is far too open for what I'm trying to convey. The straight of it is, there will be no further Highlander coverage on this website going forward.

Other stuff if anyone wants to keep reading:

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At the risk of sounding entitled or obnoxious: Don't get mad at anyone, please. This decision was not made against my will, and nor was I blindsided by the information. I am perfectly fine with how the decision was made, why it was made, and how it was conveyed to me. I have had projects on the backburner for about 1.5 seasons now that can only come to fruition now that these articles are being laid to rest.

I don't know if I'll be continuing any sort of Highlander coverage content on the UGC forums. I suppose we'll see when the time comes. The end of this series is obviously sad, at least for me, but the world keeps spinning.

With that said, I'd like to thank a few people especially for the continued support they've given me over the time I've done this. Mana and enigma obviously, for allowing me to post Highlander stuff on what may have been perceived as a board with a distaste of Highlander. I'd like to thank Digresser, brick, Grizz, Katsy, Sekibanki, Turbo Cop and Kresnik for all contributing actual parts to various articles, or even just looking it over and offering opinions.

I'm glad I was about to have this experience, and share it with you all, and I'm glad I could interact with so many fantastic people both as a direct result of this article, and due to the doors it opened going forward. I hope that I was able to bring you enjoyment or insight, and hope that going forward, we can see more people stepping up to contribute, be it here, ETF2L, UGC, ESEA, wherever. This whole rollercoaster ride started with a TFTV PM to mana asking if I could write about Highlander and post it here. You'd be surprised how open this community is to people wanting to help.

That's about it. Thanks for having me.

So yes, they have stopped highlander coverage.

Edit: source -> UGC Highlander S17 Week 7

[quote=kKaltUu][quote=Deathy][quote=Bloodis]Wondering why TFTV accepts NA HL content however, but not EU... At least we have the brains to know how to play against Razorback and how to push Badwater 3rd point and not complain about both enough much until they get changes done to them.[/quote]

Pretty sure TFTV stopped supporting NA HL as well[/quote]
I've seen someone make posts about the UGC HL teams and predictions, which was frankly my only way to keep up with NA HL. Can't imagine they stopped the person writing those articles?[/quote]

Quote from brooky12, writer of these articles:
[quote=brooky12]
Now, for a different tone. There's a lot of moving parts to this, a lot of things I just want to blurt out and say first. But here goes nothing. This will be the final of this series of articles that I will be releasing on this site. I wish I could be less specific than that, because that statement is far too open for what I'm trying to convey. [b][u][h]The straight of it is, there will be no further Highlander coverage on this website going forward.[/h][/u][/b]

Other stuff if anyone wants to keep reading:
[spoiler]At the risk of sounding entitled or obnoxious: Don't get mad at anyone, please. This decision was not made against my will, and nor was I blindsided by the information. I am perfectly fine with how the decision was made, why it was made, and how it was conveyed to me. I have had projects on the backburner for about 1.5 seasons now that can only come to fruition now that these articles are being laid to rest.

I don't know if I'll be continuing any sort of Highlander coverage content on the UGC forums. I suppose we'll see when the time comes. The end of this series is obviously sad, at least for me, but the world keeps spinning.

With that said, I'd like to thank a few people especially for the continued support they've given me over the time I've done this. Mana and enigma obviously, for allowing me to post Highlander stuff on what may have been perceived as a board with a distaste of Highlander. I'd like to thank Digresser, brick, Grizz, Katsy, Sekibanki, Turbo Cop and Kresnik for all contributing actual parts to various articles, or even just looking it over and offering opinions.

I'm glad I was about to have this experience, and share it with you all, and I'm glad I could interact with so many fantastic people both as a direct result of this article, and due to the doors it opened going forward. I hope that I was able to bring you enjoyment or insight, and hope that going forward, we can see more people stepping up to contribute, be it here, ETF2L, UGC, ESEA, wherever. This whole rollercoaster ride started with a TFTV PM to mana asking if I could write about Highlander and post it here. You'd be surprised how open this community is to people wanting to help.

That's about it. Thanks for having me.[/spoiler][/quote]

So yes, they have stopped highlander coverage.

Edit: source -> [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/29770/ugc-highlander-season-17-week-7]UGC Highlander S17 Week 7[/url]

#10

brooky12

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The article was posted by mistake, with the poster assuming that due to a previous allowance of an ozfortress tournament announcement as a news post, we had relaxed the new News posting guidelines. That's not the case.

TFTV has decided to move away from the types of content it's hosted in the past - for example, weekly articles like what was attempted to do with NA Invite last season are being phased out for more HLTV-esque beat articles covering roster transactions and big matches/LANs. You've already seen similar with recent articles such as "Ascent confirms Yomps", "Knoxxx leaves Epsilon", the slew of articles regarding Froyotech that one fateful night, and the ones during i55 weekend.

And, to breach "that" topic, yes, HL is not being covered going forward on this website. The arguments exist both ways, and both have merits. However, the vast majority of the active members of TFTV's backroom have, time and time again, come to the conclusion that it's how we want to see TFTV change. I won't rehash reasonings here as I personally never took a side, but that's the simple and straightforward unofficial response.

The article was posted by mistake, with the poster assuming that due to a previous allowance of an ozfortress tournament announcement as a news post, we had relaxed the new News posting guidelines. That's not the case.

TFTV has decided to move away from the types of content it's hosted in the past - for example, weekly articles like what was attempted to do with NA Invite last season are being phased out for more HLTV-esque beat articles covering roster transactions and big matches/LANs. You've already seen similar with recent articles such as "Ascent confirms Yomps", "Knoxxx leaves Epsilon", the slew of articles regarding Froyotech that one fateful night, and the ones during i55 weekend.

And, to breach "that" topic, yes, HL is not being covered going forward on this website. The arguments exist both ways, and both have merits. However, the vast majority of the active members of TFTV's backroom have, time and time again, come to the conclusion that it's how we want to see TFTV change. I won't rehash reasonings here as I personally never took a side, but that's the simple and straightforward unofficial response.

#11

Bulow

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Is there somewhere that those reasonsing are rehashed? Seems stupid to me given that I thought that this site was supposed to be a portal into all things competitive TF2.

#12

Hildreth

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BulowIs there somewhere that those reasonsing are rehashed? Seems stupid to me given that I thought that this site was supposed to be a portal into all things competitive TF2.

See that is what irks me Mr B, I fully accept TF.TV's reasoning behind it, but it's time to admit you're not the hub for competitive TF2, seems as if the org doesn't even recognize Highlander as a competitive format, daft considering numbers the format brings into the competitive scene and the crossover of players between formats.

What is TF.TV now?

[quote=Bulow]Is there somewhere that those reasonsing are rehashed? Seems stupid to me given that I thought that this site was supposed to be a portal into all things competitive TF2.[/quote]

See that is what irks me Mr B, I fully accept TF.TV's reasoning behind it, but it's time to admit you're not the hub for competitive TF2, seems as if the org doesn't even recognize Highlander as a competitive format, daft considering numbers the format brings into the competitive scene and the crossover of players between formats.

What is TF.TV now?

#13

Maxi-

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a 6v6 hub that covers top level EU and NA only?

#14

deft_

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https://gyazo.com/f0b441adbb3e50e0b37f3aae3c3cdf19

Highlander is a competitive gamemode as well, so shouldn't it be featured in the "Home of competitive TF2"?

https://gyazo.com/f0b441adbb3e50e0b37f3aae3c3cdf19

Highlander is a competitive gamemode as well, so shouldn't it be featured in the "Home of competitive TF2"?

#15

flame

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so is pyro dodgeball.

edit: im not anti highlander, just like i don't think any of the admins of this site are. this website being 6v6 oriented is what makes it good in my opinion.

so is pyro dodgeball.

edit: im not anti highlander, just like i don't think any of the admins of this site are. this website being 6v6 oriented is what makes it good in my opinion.

#16

ondkaja

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Highlander in EU is a fucking joke, the top teams are not as good as they used to be. In fact, pretty much nobody in Europe plays highlander properly anymore, I cringe every time I watch a highlander casts because the uber games in Europe is fucking dreadful and nobody plays properly at all. If you genuinely think teams like The Experiment deserves top level coverage, then you've clearly misunderstood the concept of competition. The HL nations cup had several teams who were better than the top of HLS9, mostly because the national teams fielded way better players than the current top of HLS9.

#17

fireindaarcade

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Can Highlander stuff, like the articles Brooky did, be posted as threads instead of news articles?

I understand if writers don't really have an interest in that, but I'm just curious.

Can Highlander stuff, like the articles Brooky did, be posted as threads instead of news articles?

I understand if writers don't really have an interest in that, but I'm just curious.

#18

Bulow

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flameso is pyro dodgeball

Is it though? I didn't know that there was any sort of competitive format with organisations designed to facilitate it. Please link me to one, I would like to play some competitive pyro dodgeball, and what better place to hear about it than the inclusive home of competitive tf2?

[quote=flame]so is pyro dodgeball[/quote]

Is it though? I didn't know that there was any sort of competitive format with organisations designed to facilitate it. Please link me to one, I would like to play some competitive pyro dodgeball, and what better place to hear about it than the inclusive home of competitive tf2?

#19

tsc

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fireindaarcadeCan Highlander stuff, like the articles Brooky did, be posted as threads instead of news articles?

I understand if writers don't really have an interest in that, but I'm just curious.

There's no reason why it couldn't be.

[quote=fireindaarcade]Can Highlander stuff, like the articles Brooky did, be posted as threads instead of news articles?

I understand if writers don't really have an interest in that, but I'm just curious.[/quote]

There's no reason why it couldn't be.

#20

flame

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Bulowflameso is pyro dodgeball
Is it though? I didn't know that there was any sort of competitive format with organisations designed to facilitate it. Please link me to one, I would like to play some competitive pyro dodgeball, and what better place to hear about it than the inclusive home of competitive tf2?

for arguments sake.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tournament_Medal_-_RETF2_EE22_Dodgeball_Tournament_(Season_1)

[quote=Bulow][quote=flame]so is pyro dodgeball[/quote]

Is it though? I didn't know that there was any sort of competitive format with organisations designed to facilitate it. Please link me to one, I would like to play some competitive pyro dodgeball, and what better place to hear about it than the inclusive home of competitive tf2?[/quote]

for arguments sake.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tournament_Medal_-_RETF2_EE22_Dodgeball_Tournament_(Season_1)

#21

deft_

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flameBulowflameso is pyro dodgeball
Is it though? I didn't know that there was any sort of competitive format with organisations designed to facilitate it. Please link me to one, I would like to play some competitive pyro dodgeball, and what better place to hear about it than the inclusive home of competitive tf2?
for arguments sake.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tournament_Medal_-_RETF2_EE22_Dodgeball_Tournament_(Season_1)

But HL and 6v6 are the larger more reputable ones with more participants in it

[quote=flame][quote=Bulow][quote=flame]so is pyro dodgeball[/quote]

Is it though? I didn't know that there was any sort of competitive format with organisations designed to facilitate it. Please link me to one, I would like to play some competitive pyro dodgeball, and what better place to hear about it than the inclusive home of competitive tf2?[/quote]

for arguments sake.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tournament_Medal_-_RETF2_EE22_Dodgeball_Tournament_(Season_1)[/quote]
But HL and 6v6 are the larger more reputable ones with more participants in it

#22

Bulow

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flamefor arguments sake.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tournament_Medal_-_RETF2_EE22_Dodgeball_Tournament_(Season_1)

I'm sorry, that doesn't look very current. Are you sure that the competitive pyro dodgeball scene isn't dead, like 5v5 and 7v7? I'm disappointed now.

[quote=flame]
for arguments sake.

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Tournament_Medal_-_RETF2_EE22_Dodgeball_Tournament_(Season_1)[/quote]

I'm sorry, that doesn't look very current. Are you sure that the competitive pyro dodgeball scene isn't dead, like 5v5 and 7v7? I'm disappointed now.

#23

Muuki

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Ond_kajaHighlander in EU is a fucking joke, the top teams are not as good as they used to be. In fact, pretty much nobody in Europe plays highlander properly anymore, I cringe every time I watch a highlander casts because the uber games in Europe is fucking dreadful and nobody plays properly at all. If you genuinely think teams like The Experiment deserves top level coverage, then you've clearly misunderstood the concept of competition. The HL nations cup had several teams who were better than the top of HLS9, mostly because the national teams fielded way better players than the current top of HLS9.

but you're not playing anymore so how can the uber game be any worse?

[quote=Ond_kaja]Highlander in EU is a fucking joke, the top teams are not as good as they used to be. In fact, pretty much nobody in Europe plays highlander properly anymore, I cringe every time I watch a highlander casts because the uber games in Europe is fucking dreadful and nobody plays properly at all. If you genuinely think teams like The Experiment deserves top level coverage, then you've clearly misunderstood the concept of competition. The HL nations cup had several teams who were better than the top of HLS9, mostly because the national teams fielded way better players than the current top of HLS9.[/quote]
but you're not playing anymore so how can the uber game be any worse?

#24

ondkaja

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MuukiOnd_kajaHighlander in EU is a fucking joke, the top teams are not as good as they used to be. In fact, pretty much nobody in Europe plays highlander properly anymore, I cringe every time I watch a highlander casts because the uber games in Europe is fucking dreadful and nobody plays properly at all. If you genuinely think teams like The Experiment deserves top level coverage, then you've clearly misunderstood the concept of competition. The HL nations cup had several teams who were better than the top of HLS9, mostly because the national teams fielded way better players than the current top of HLS9.but you're not playing anymore so how can the uber game be any worse?

you started playing medic FailFish

[quote=Muuki][quote=Ond_kaja]Highlander in EU is a fucking joke, the top teams are not as good as they used to be. In fact, pretty much nobody in Europe plays highlander properly anymore, I cringe every time I watch a highlander casts because the uber games in Europe is fucking dreadful and nobody plays properly at all. If you genuinely think teams like The Experiment deserves top level coverage, then you've clearly misunderstood the concept of competition. The HL nations cup had several teams who were better than the top of HLS9, mostly because the national teams fielded way better players than the current top of HLS9.[/quote]
but you're not playing anymore so how can the uber game be any worse?[/quote]

you started playing medic FailFish

#25

Avast

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Either we include all formats of real competitive merit, i.e., bball, ultiduo, jumping, 6s/HL, or we segregate them all to their individual sites.

If we include bball/ultiduo articles and jumping videos then we should include HL articles imo.

I'm not a huge fan of HL and think it's kind of a shit game mode but I don't see the logic in calling ourselves the home of competitive tf2 if the largest community of competitive players numbers-wise doesn't have their content posted here.

Unless the goal is to make 6v6 the only real competitive format, in which case I both agree and understand.

Either we include all formats of real competitive merit, i.e., bball, ultiduo, jumping, 6s/HL, or we segregate them all to their individual sites.

If we include bball/ultiduo articles and jumping videos then we should include HL articles imo.

I'm not a huge fan of HL and think it's kind of a shit game mode but I don't see the logic in calling ourselves the home of competitive tf2 if the largest community of competitive players numbers-wise doesn't have their content posted here.

Unless the goal is to make 6v6 the only real competitive format, in which case I both agree and understand.

#26

Muuki

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Ond_kajaMuukiOnd_kajaHighlander in EU is a fucking joke, the top teams are not as good as they used to be. In fact, pretty much nobody in Europe plays highlander properly anymore, I cringe every time I watch a highlander casts because the uber games in Europe is fucking dreadful and nobody plays properly at all. If you genuinely think teams like The Experiment deserves top level coverage, then you've clearly misunderstood the concept of competition. The HL nations cup had several teams who were better than the top of HLS9, mostly because the national teams fielded way better players than the current top of HLS9.but you're not playing anymore so how can the uber game be any worse?
you started playing medic FailFish

xD

[quote=Ond_kaja][quote=Muuki][quote=Ond_kaja]Highlander in EU is a fucking joke, the top teams are not as good as they used to be. In fact, pretty much nobody in Europe plays highlander properly anymore, I cringe every time I watch a highlander casts because the uber games in Europe is fucking dreadful and nobody plays properly at all. If you genuinely think teams like The Experiment deserves top level coverage, then you've clearly misunderstood the concept of competition. The HL nations cup had several teams who were better than the top of HLS9, mostly because the national teams fielded way better players than the current top of HLS9.[/quote]
but you're not playing anymore so how can the uber game be any worse?[/quote]

you started playing medic FailFish[/quote]
xD

#27

Tomu

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Ond_kajaHighlander in EU is a fucking joke, the top teams are not as good as they used to be. In fact, pretty much nobody in Europe plays highlander properly anymore, I cringe every time I watch a highlander casts because the uber games in Europe is fucking dreadful and nobody plays properly at all. If you genuinely think teams like The Experiment deserves top level coverage, then you've clearly misunderstood the concept of competition. The HL nations cup had several teams who were better than the top of HLS9, mostly because the national teams fielded way better players than the current top of HLS9.

As much as I agree with this I don't feel that it would have been included as the reasoning for removing Highlander from tftv.

You can say the same about 6v6 seasons, they come and go with decent seasons and players. Also generally people always say X season is better than Y season.

If for whatever reason the top of ESEA and ETF2L 6v6 one season just disappears, the skill level will go down and I don't think tftv would stop coverage until, maybe because of the lower skill level the scene dies. This doesn't mean the game becomes less competitive, it just makes it easier to be at the top and it's up to you yourself to decide whether or not you would want to participate in such a scene.

Now if the lower skill level of hl over the seasons (I have no idea if it happens in UGC for the Americans sorry) was part of the decision behind it I would propose the tftv people rethink it. Highlander is still played by a lot (dropping numbers in EU I think) and a significant portion of hl players go over to 6v6 which I believe is part of the reasoning ETF2L runs highlander as well as 6s in a "serious" way with prizes.

All that will happen is Player A who mains Spy comes to tftv to catch up on the latest, will see there is no coverage of highlander and will perhaps not spend as much time on this site and get exposed to the other formats of competitive tf2.

Pretty great idea I love splitting the playerbase tbh and spamming lolhl.

[quote=Ond_kaja]Highlander in EU is a fucking joke, the top teams are not as good as they used to be. In fact, pretty much nobody in Europe plays highlander properly anymore, I cringe every time I watch a highlander casts because the uber games in Europe is fucking dreadful and nobody plays properly at all. If you genuinely think teams like The Experiment deserves top level coverage, then you've clearly misunderstood the concept of competition. The HL nations cup had several teams who were better than the top of HLS9, mostly because the national teams fielded way better players than the current top of HLS9.[/quote]

As much as I agree with this I don't feel that it would have been included as the reasoning for removing Highlander from tftv.

You can say the same about 6v6 seasons, they come and go with decent seasons and players. Also generally people always say X season is better than Y season.

If for whatever reason the top of ESEA and ETF2L 6v6 one season just disappears, the skill level will go down and I don't think tftv would stop coverage until, maybe because of the lower skill level the scene dies. This doesn't mean the game becomes less competitive, it just makes it easier to be at the top and it's up to you yourself to decide whether or not you would want to participate in such a scene.

Now if the lower skill level of hl over the seasons (I have no idea if it happens in UGC for the Americans sorry) was part of the decision behind it I would propose the tftv people rethink it. Highlander is still played by a lot (dropping numbers in EU I think) and a significant portion of hl players go over to 6v6 which I believe is part of the reasoning ETF2L runs highlander as well as 6s in a "serious" way with prizes.

All that will happen is Player A who mains Spy comes to tftv to catch up on the latest, will see there is no coverage of highlander and will perhaps not spend as much time on this site and get exposed to the other formats of competitive tf2.

Pretty great idea I love splitting the playerbase tbh and spamming lolhl.

#28

Fire

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zx

#29

flame

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make a highlander subforum and give me the option to never see any posts from it in my sidebar, easyyyy

#30

trash

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I mean, it's up to the site itself of course, but that doesn't really change TFTV from being, for all intents and purposes, the only game in town. if there was a consistent HL hub then this would never be an argument, because you could just point them there, but there isn't one

I know just about fuck-all with regards to EU, but I know that the american HL scene is still up there in size, and is definitely larger in scope than whatever goof-ass faux-comp format you want to compare it to like ready steady pan or s/t. perhaps its main niche (an easy transition for pubbers to understand competitive play) will be nullified a bit from matchmaking, but at its core its still a format that lets pub stomper steve play spy without actively getting shit on by his team, it's a good format to support

I mean, it's up to the site itself of course, but that doesn't really change TFTV from being, for all intents and purposes, the only game in town. if there was a consistent HL hub then this would never be an argument, because you could just point them there, but there isn't one

I know just about fuck-all with regards to EU, but I know that the american HL scene is still up there in size, and is definitely larger in scope than whatever goof-ass faux-comp format you want to compare it to like ready steady pan or s/t. perhaps its main niche (an easy transition for pubbers to understand competitive play) will be nullified a bit from matchmaking, but at its core its still a format that lets pub stomper steve play spy without actively getting shit on by his team, it's a good format to support