nataponleaf boy smoking some good stuff there. you guys using nodecg?
no nodecg
OsirisShounicSnip
I personally think it would be best to forego the boxes and use the side panel from the first screenshot(as you're doing currently). I would however take out the "Match Winner" header and just grey out the loser and colour-highlight the winner under the "Match Results" header. Put the map scores below it and remove the "Final Score" header, but leaving a large enough empty space between the team names and the map scores. This will also leave you more space in case you get best-of-5 matches going the distance in the future.
It seems fine as it is, though.
like this?
http://i.imgur.com/VaPMEvG.jpg
[quote=natapon]leaf boy smoking some good stuff there. you guys using nodecg?[/quote]
no nodecg
[quote=Osiris][quote=Shounic]Snip[/quote]
I personally think it would be best to forego the boxes and use the side panel from the first screenshot(as you're doing currently). I would however take out the "Match Winner" header and just grey out the loser and colour-highlight the winner under the "Match Results" header. Put the map scores below it and remove the "Final Score" header, but leaving a large enough empty space between the team names and the map scores. This will also leave you more space in case you get best-of-5 matches going the distance in the future.
It seems fine as it is, though.[/quote]
like this?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/VaPMEvG.jpg[/img]
Shouniclike this?
That is exactly what I was thinking, yes. You could even use strike-through on the loser's name if the grey doesn't look grey enough because of how thin the font is and how 'pastel' the background is, I guess. I think all of the panels and animations look and work great, I wouldn't waste too much more of your time on them; the whole production quality is A++ in my opinion.
[quote=Shounic]like this?[/quote]
That is exactly what I was thinking, yes. You could even use strike-through on the loser's name if the grey doesn't look grey enough because of how thin the font is and how 'pastel' the background is, I guess. I think all of the panels and animations look and work great, I wouldn't waste too much more of your time on them; the whole production quality is A++ in my opinion.
https://youtu.be/mGCp1ioaaMg
would people like this more? the only objective difference is that it'll allow room for more games and probably neater display of best of 5 or 7s if they ever happen. I can see how I can add in info about it being a semi-final, golden cap, etc as well so people may enjoy that.
If people like this more I'll switch it to this style on the next Backcap episode.
Tomorrow I'll be posting a vlog responding to people's concerns with SIN as a host and making another animated mockup of what it might look like with Osiri's version of the Match Results. I'm also considering taking a look at other parts of the video to spice it up and make it look even better, like the leaderboards.
https://youtu.be/mGCp1ioaaMg
would people like this more? the only objective difference is that it'll allow room for more games and probably neater display of best of 5 or 7s if they ever happen. I can see how I can add in info about it being a semi-final, golden cap, etc as well so people may enjoy that.
If people like this more I'll switch it to this style on the next Backcap episode.
Tomorrow I'll be posting a vlog responding to people's concerns with SIN as a host and making another animated mockup of what it might look like with Osiri's version of the Match Results. I'm also considering taking a look at other parts of the video to spice it up and make it look even better, like the leaderboards.
Shounichttps://youtu.be/mGCp1ioaaMg
Love the mockup! Looks clean and informative.
[quote=Shounic]https://youtu.be/mGCp1ioaaMg[/quote]
Love the mockup! Looks clean and informative.
love the mockup but i personally think you should use a strikethrough or other cue for the losing team as well as a different color as it can still be a little bit confusing.
love the mockup but i personally think you should use a strikethrough or other cue for the losing team as well as a different color as it can still be a little bit confusing.
Yeah it looks amazing, good job
Yeah it looks amazing, good job
retrogradelove the mockup but i personally think you should use a strikethrough or other cue for the losing team as well as a different color as it can still be a little bit confusing.
If you are worried about the colors not being very apparent, less than or greater than signs would be an easy way.
Ex: Ascent > Froyo
[quote=retrograde]love the mockup but i personally think you should use a strikethrough or other cue for the losing team as well as a different color as it can still be a little bit confusing.[/quote]
If you are worried about the colors not being very apparent, less than or greater than signs would be an easy way.
Ex: Ascent > Froyo
fireindaarcaderetrogradelove the mockup but i personally think you should use a strikethrough or other cue for the losing team as well as a different color as it can still be a little bit confusing.
If you are worried about the colors not being very apparent, less than or greater than signs would be an easy way.
Ex: Ascent > Froyo
^^^yeah this would be perfect actually, a lot better than my idea
[quote=fireindaarcade][quote=retrograde]love the mockup but i personally think you should use a strikethrough or other cue for the losing team as well as a different color as it can still be a little bit confusing.[/quote]
If you are worried about the colors not being very apparent, less than or greater than signs would be an easy way.
Ex: Ascent > Froyo[/quote]
^^^yeah this would be perfect actually, a lot better than my idea
more stuff:
making edits based on comments for the match results - https://youtu.be/mmRkYx4YRew
new leaderboards / playoff brackets? https://youtu.be/dzBnNBfWDjg
since people like it, i think i'll be implementing the new match results in the coming episode, with some minor fixes for some text centering.
more stuff:
making edits based on comments for the match results - https://youtu.be/mmRkYx4YRew
new leaderboards / playoff brackets? https://youtu.be/dzBnNBfWDjg
since people like it, i think i'll be implementing the new match results in the coming episode, with some minor fixes for some text centering.
status update:
without my prior knowledge SIN has been offline for the whole day today. I've finished my work like usual but I have no idea where he disappeared to. If he doesn't come online after a few more hours I'm just going to upload Episode 8 onto my channel and bring it down when he comes back. Sorry guys :(
status update:
without my prior knowledge SIN has been offline for the whole day today. I've finished my work like usual but I have no idea where he disappeared to. If he doesn't come online after a few more hours I'm just going to upload Episode 8 onto my channel and bring it down when he comes back. Sorry guys :(
I should say that siN has been sick since the start of the new year, he mentioned it in an annotation on one of his videos. I'm not sure if this is related.
I should say that siN has been sick since the start of the new year, he mentioned it in an annotation on one of his videos. I'm not sure if this is related.
https://youtu.be/Ci1zvquGVGg (might still be processing?)
https://youtu.be/Ci1zvquGVGg [s](might still be processing?)[/s]
Gotta say as much as I love sideshow it really shows that getawhale is a pro when it comes to this stuff, he makes the show sound more professional imo
Gotta say as much as I love sideshow it really shows that getawhale is a pro when it comes to this stuff, he makes the show sound more professional imo
deetrGotta say as much as I love sideshow it really shows that getawhale is a pro when it comes to this stuff, he makes the show sound more professional imo
Dude is literally a pro!
[quote=deetr]Gotta say as much as I love sideshow it really shows that getawhale is a pro when it comes to this stuff, he makes the show sound more professional imo[/quote]
Dude is literally a pro!
This week we're gonna try out departing from spamming this thread to posting a new thread so it's easier to have discussions there. Link!
This thread will be used to discuss Backcap as a whole or other meta sort of things. Do people like
Bordered / No Greater Than Sign or Non-Bordered / With Greater Than Sign match results?
They're interchangeable btw, so bordered doesn't mean it must not have a greater than sign.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I'll likely be implementing these changes next week so get your votes in before it's too late.
This week we're gonna try out departing from spamming this thread to posting a new thread so it's easier to have discussions there. [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/31216/backcap-9-week-of-9th-to-16th-of-january]Link![/url]
This thread will be used to discuss Backcap as a whole or other meta sort of things. Do people like
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH2jMYWAXYk]Bordered / No Greater Than Sign[/url] or [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmRkYx4YRew]Non-Bordered / With Greater Than Sign[/url] match results?
They're interchangeable btw, so bordered doesn't mean it must not have a greater than sign.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I'll likely be implementing these changes next week so get your votes in before it's too late.
https://gyazo.com/7f645c8d9e021d9e8e1ebfac94d246d9
https://gyazo.com/616734261bf8ee003158e76281a4170b
hey again, i need your help!
next episode's gonna have a lot of stuff to cover and the current layout doesn't work too well to give enough room for your eyes to follow the visuals and it's getting cluttered, so i came up with some ideas that should make the experience more enjoyable.
http://i.imgur.com/zBFysfc.png
the new look for introducing the video's contents?
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http://i.imgur.com/ib49Ir1.png
and a few ideas for making the representation of the tournaments better.
let me know what works and what doesn't so i can improve them for the next video. get your ideas in quick so i have enough time to implement them for the next episode!
hey again, i need your help!
next episode's gonna have a lot of stuff to cover and the current layout doesn't work too well to give enough room for your eyes to follow the visuals and it's getting cluttered, so i came up with some ideas that should make the experience more enjoyable.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/zBFysfc.png[/img]
the new look for introducing the video's contents?
----
[img]http://i.imgur.com/ib49Ir1.png[/img]
and a few ideas for making the representation of the tournaments better.
let me know what works and what doesn't so i can improve them for the next video. get your ideas in quick so i have enough time to implement them for the next episode!
For the "representation of the tournaments," I like the first option, the second's ok for a smaller size (thought I don't understand why the 5cp designation is necessary). The third one just has the text way too small.
For the "representation of the tournaments," I like the first option, the second's ok for a smaller size (thought I don't understand why the 5cp designation is necessary). The third one just has the text way too small.
i like the third option for tournaments better in general but i agree that the text is too small - i just dont think you will be able to split every map name for the second one
i like the third option for tournaments better in general but i agree that the text is too small - i just dont think you will be able to split every map name for the second one
hey boys.
so with all the games we have to consistently highlight each week, the team is starting to spread thin. trying to cover esea + etf2l + ozfortress brings our todo list to 13+ matches to watch each week. well, so what? what happens when there's too much work for too little people? i have no idea what i'll have to do when we're taking on too much work, and i don't want to have to be forced to cut corners on the show.
the other issue i'm thinking about is feedback. what do i need feedback for? i don't like to let the show stagnate and that means testing out new bold ideas or redeveloping the design philosophies the show follows. what's wrong with how you get feedback atm? SIN's comments will not bring me anywhere, & posting on my yt channel is a decent solution for now but i think there's still better ways to go about it. posting here is also quite hit and miss, and you'll all understand that i rather my job be video production not market research / PR.
so what does it all boil down to? if you watch tf2 casts very often, follow a particular scene closely, etc come try your hand at highlighting stuff for Backcap. it's not even particularly hard or skill intensive.
this is how it goes: you watch a game, then write down timestamps of whatever cool shit you saw. we have an actual spreadsheet that automates and makes the process so simple as well.
as for feedback, i can't read anyone's mind. so if you know there's a better platform for getting feedback or if there's a better way i could be doing it, let me know.
your response:
"i wanna volunteer!" -> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1tovjxcbAO-0bZcI-SvXxzYmVlTBklfpxDbhQAV065_c/viewform
*** special note: if you think you have a good understanding of design and things like that, write it down.
"oh they probably have enough helpers by now" - if you have free time to do technically simple tasks, there's always room to smooth out the process more. now refer to "i wanna volunteer".
alternatively, you can try add me if you prefer that for whatever reason but my friends list is probably hitting the cap soon.
thanks!
hey boys.
so with all the games we have to consistently highlight each week, the team is starting to spread thin. trying to cover esea + etf2l + ozfortress brings our todo list to 13+ matches to watch each week. well, so what? what happens when there's too much work for too little people? i have no idea what i'll have to do when we're taking on too much work, and i don't want to have to be forced to cut corners on the show.
the other issue i'm thinking about is feedback. what do i need feedback for? i don't like to let the show stagnate and that means testing out new bold ideas or redeveloping the design philosophies the show follows. what's wrong with how you get feedback atm? SIN's comments will not bring me anywhere, & posting on my yt channel is a decent solution for now but i think there's still better ways to go about it. posting here is also quite hit and miss, and you'll all understand that i rather my job be video production not market research / PR.
so what does it all boil down to? if you watch tf2 casts very often, follow a particular scene closely, etc come try your hand at highlighting stuff for Backcap. it's not even particularly hard or skill intensive.
this is how it goes: you watch a game, then write down timestamps of whatever cool shit you saw. we have an actual spreadsheet that automates and makes the process so simple as well.
as for feedback, i can't read anyone's mind. so if you know there's a better platform for getting feedback or if there's a better way i could be doing it, let me know.
your response:
"i wanna volunteer!" -> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1tovjxcbAO-0bZcI-SvXxzYmVlTBklfpxDbhQAV065_c/viewform
*** special note: if you think you have a good understanding of design and things like that, write it down.
"oh they probably have enough helpers by now" - if you have free time to do technically simple tasks, there's always room to smooth out the process more. now refer to "i wanna volunteer".
alternatively, you can try add me if you prefer that for whatever reason but my friends list is probably hitting the cap soon.
thanks!
Bumping this thread to let people know that there won't be an unlisted video today. The host we were going to have ended up not being able to complete the voice work despite substantial and ample notice our part so its just an unfortunate turn of events. Regardless, I'll promise the video will be released on Monday. Sorry!
Bumping this thread to let people know that there won't be an unlisted video today. The host we were going to have ended up not being able to complete the voice work despite substantial and ample notice our part so its just an unfortunate turn of events. Regardless, I'll promise the video will be released on Monday. Sorry!