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ETF2L S23 W7: dd + 5 abs vs. Foreskings
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Tuesday, Mar 8th
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Join CommanderX, WARHURYEAH and Sim on teamfortress.tv stream for our continued coverage of ETF2L Season 23 powered by Tt eSports. It's the final week of the ETF2L league and it's still anyone's playoff. The final maps will be koth_product_rc8 and cp_badlands.

Now we could write a breakdown of the teams journey's, how this matchup will likely play out or perhaps a theorise a future where roamers only bomb with Market Gardener, but we know that only one thing springs to mind when these playoff windows come up: What does ____ need to make it into the playoff? What exact butterfly effect needs to happen to give out a certain scenario? Look no more! We've crunched the numbers, cross examined against ETF2L and bugged the head admin Sonny Black to explain the rules when we got confused, all so you don't have to.

**dd + 5 abs Breakdown:**

Definite playoff spot
- Earn 4 points

Minimum-work/Maximum-Luck
- dd + 5 abs earn only 1 point
- LEGO lose fully to Pubclir
- Team infused must not earn more than 4 points
- Planet Express must not earn more than 3 points

**Foreskings Breakdown:**

Definite playoff spot:
- None

Minimum-work/Maximum-Luck
- Foreskings take all 6 points
- LEGO lose fully to Pubclir
- Team infused must not earn more than 5 points
- Planet Express must not earn more than 4 points

Sideshow's View | ETF2L Prem Table | Week 7 Fixtures
ETF2L Premiership S23 W7: dd + 5 abs vs. Foreskings
MAP 1
koth_product_rc8
MAP 2
cp_badlands
Velocity eSports EU > Foreskings 3 - 0
0:16:33
Players CL DPM DMG K A D HR% HR CPC MP UC UCD
veL | Honey 23.4 387 0 13 8 2 0 7 1
veL | nuze 400.6 6630 18 10 8 30% 5054 4 2
veL | Raf 310.1 5132 13 9 13 17% 2841 3 1
veL | spudd 343.8 5690 22 5 19 23% 3930 0 4
veL | ixy 352.4 5833 26 8 5 8% 1319 1 7
veL | Crayon 413.8 6848 30 18 7 22% 3699 7 1
Players CL DPM DMG K A D HR% HR CPC MP UC UCD
4SKINGS Zangetsu 17.4 288 1 4 15 2 0 2 1
4SKINGS Lanzer 300.5 4974 13 4 17 29% 3819 1 1
4SKINGS JackyLegs 312.1 5166 10 4 21 16% 2152 1 1
4SKINGS wackey 217 3591 6 4 20 26% 3415 1 2
4SKINGS inso 342.1 5661 19 4 17 18% 2353 5 4
4SKINGS Phnx 248.5 4112 11 11 19 11% 1485 5 0
Velocity eSports EU > Foreskings 6 - 1
0:25:11
Players CL DPM DMG K A D HR% HR CPC MP UC UCD
veL | Honey 12.2 306 0 7 9 3 0 22 0
veL | nuze 232.4 5852 14 8 12 22% 5791 7 1
veL | Raf 294.3 7412 28 6 11 19% 4995 10 4
veL | spudd 329.4 8295 24 7 17 32% 8462 6 5
veL | ixy 249.8 6291 20 19 11 12% 3261 14 3
veL | Crayon 225.4 5676 22 9 18 15% 3959 11 2
Players CL DPM DMG K A D HR% HR CPC MP UC UCD
4SKINGS Zangetsu 11 277 1 6 15 0 0 7 0
4SKINGS Lanzer 253.3 6379 13 6 13 30% 6974 1 0
4SKINGS JackyLegs 235.6 5933 15 4 23 11% 2597 2 4
4SKINGS wackey 276.8 6970 19 5 17 29% 6910 0 3
4SKINGS inso 190 4785 17 7 19 18% 4175 5 1
4SKINGS Phnx 215.6 5429 13 9 21 12% 2923 4 1
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#1
6 Frags +

GO FORESKINGS

GO FORESKINGS
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#2
5 Frags +

oh so playoffs are 4 teams instead of 3 this season?

oh so playoffs are 4 teams instead of 3 this season?
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#3
5 Frags +
Mearliteoh so playoffs are 4 teams instead of 3 this season?

Yeah, the quarter finals are currently scheduled for the 17th with the semis and finals on the 20th.

[quote=Mearlite]oh so playoffs are 4 teams instead of 3 this season?[/quote]

Yeah, the quarter finals are currently scheduled for the 17th with the semis and finals on the 20th.
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#4
34 Frags +

When I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".

When I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".
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#5
-15 Frags +

4skins if you win ill take back everything i've ever said about jews

4skins if you win ill take back everything i've ever said about jews
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#6
13 Frags +

savageDAD

savageDAD
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#7
12 Frags +
MidnightMickWhen I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".

BEST DAD EVER

[quote=MidnightMick]When I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".[/quote]
BEST DAD EVER
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#8
2 Frags +
moursifanshaweMidnightMickWhen I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".BEST DAD EVER
[quote=moursifanshawe][quote=MidnightMick]When I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".[/quote]
BEST DAD EVER[/quote]
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#9
0 Frags +
T0mmoursifanshaweMidnightMickWhen I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".BEST DAD EVER
[quote=T0m][quote=moursifanshawe][quote=MidnightMick]When I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".[/quote]
BEST DAD EVER[/quote][/quote]
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#10
4 Frags +
MidnightMickWhen I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".

I can't believe this is real.

[quote=MidnightMick]When I see War casting I watch it on "Mute".[/quote]
I can't believe this is real.
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#11
0 Frags +

Foreskins please win so that planet express can make playoffs thanks

Foreskins please win so that planet express can make playoffs thanks
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#12
6 Frags +

ill miss you Foreskings

ill miss you Foreskings
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#13
1 Frags +

[*]

[*]
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#14
11 Frags +

light a candle for infused and planet express dreams of playoff [*]

light a candle for infused and planet express dreams of playoff [*]
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#15
6 Frags +

this may sound selfish but the fact that ALL the israeli players HAVE TO stop doing what they love just to join the army makes me understand how lucky i am and how terrible this conflict is... Hope to see you soon, Jacky! I'd love to hear you cast even just one game in the future seasons.

this may sound selfish but the fact that ALL the israeli players HAVE TO stop doing what they love just to join the army makes me understand how lucky i am and how terrible this conflict is... Hope to see you soon, Jacky! I'd love to hear you cast even just one game in the future seasons.
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#16
7 Frags +

Although there have been some good performances from dd+5 abs, they seem to face their opponents at the peak of dribble. What a poor end to the season for Foreskings, pity they couldn't keep up.

ixy and sjoeberg had great games tonight comparatively though, first flashes of ability.

Although there have been some good performances from dd+5 abs, they seem to face their opponents at the peak of dribble. What a poor end to the season for Foreskings, pity they couldn't keep up.

ixy and sjoeberg had great games tonight comparatively though, first flashes of ability.
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#17
4 Frags +

I'm sorry to those that don't enjoy my casting, I will try to improve.

I'm sorry to those that don't enjoy my casting, I will try to improve.
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#18
0 Frags +

Why does nobody believe in dd+5, they went up against some solid team at the start of the season but have really cemented themselves as prem material

p.s. Never change war, your casting is perfect :)

Why does nobody believe in dd+5, they went up against some solid team at the start of the season but have really cemented themselves as prem material

p.s. Never change war, your casting is perfect :)
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#19
4 Frags +
zeFrostyWhy does nobody believe in dd+5, they went up against some solid team at the start of the season but have really cemented themselves as prem material

p.s. Never change war, your casting is perfect :)

Because it's against all the odds that a team that wasn't even a High finalist manage to do so well in their prem debut. People often forget a few points tho:
-They are a team with an enduring chemistry (I remember playing in div 6 against a team with honey and ixy aka iceman).
-They've lost against the High winners (4SKINGS) with a much lower level roamer (basti).
-Almost everyone in the team was so-far-unknown to the "circle jerk", thus they were considered unworthy or people did not know what to really expect from them.
-3 out of 7 opposing teams (if you consider Publiclir) were rashly put up together without thinking too much how the various players work together resulting in inconstancy and often lack of maincallers.
-The dd5f's shovel meme.

[quote=zeFrosty]Why does nobody believe in dd+5, they went up against some solid team at the start of the season but have really cemented themselves as prem material

p.s. Never change war, your casting is perfect :)[/quote]
Because it's against all the odds that a team that wasn't even a High finalist manage to do so well in their prem debut. People often forget a few points tho:
-They are a team with an enduring chemistry (I remember playing in div 6 against a team with honey and ixy aka iceman).
-They've lost against the High winners (4SKINGS) with a much lower level roamer (basti).
-Almost everyone in the team was so-far-unknown to the "circle jerk", thus they were considered unworthy or people did not know what to really expect from them.
-3 out of 7 opposing teams (if you consider Publiclir) were rashly put up together without thinking too much how the various players work together resulting in inconstancy and often lack of maincallers.
-The dd5f's shovel meme.
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#20
3 Frags +

I think another factor is that these teams don't really face off against other top teams regularly, so you have no real consistent results to judge them on.

When there were a lot more cups & other tournaments you had more high teams playing vs. the top tier a bit more.

I feel that as a result you get a very disconnected feeling between high and prem now.

This had changed for this season I feel as there isnt many rehashed prem teams taking part.

I think another factor is that these teams don't really face off against other top teams regularly, so you have no real consistent results to judge them on.

When there were a lot more cups & other tournaments you had more high teams playing vs. the top tier a bit more.

I feel that as a result you get a very disconnected feeling between high and prem now.

This had changed for this season I feel as there isnt many rehashed prem teams taking part.
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#21
0 Frags +
cirlothis may sound selfish but the fact that ALL the israeli players HAVE TO stop doing what they love just to join the army makes me understand how lucky i am

Having to do army service isn't just an Israel thing though. Finland, Norway, Russia, Ukraine and more require mandatory military service as well.

[quote=cirlo]this may sound selfish but the fact that ALL the israeli players HAVE TO stop doing what they love just to join the army makes me understand how lucky i am[/quote]

Having to do army service isn't just an Israel thing though. Finland, Norway, Russia, Ukraine and more require mandatory military service as well.
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#22
-1 Frags +

The lack of tournaments also doesn't give you anything to base rankings on other than ETF2L. I think it's unlikely that dd+5 abs would make the semi-finals consistently in Premiership tournaments, despite them currently being the 3/4th ranked team. I don't think they would consistently beat the other Premiership team they met in the QF, they just had good results when it mattered in the season.

Nonetheless they have proven themselves to be mid-Premiership rather than low. I had previous pegged them as 7th at the beginning of the season, now I'd place them 5th on balance. I think with more opportunities to face Premiership teams, they'd average out a little lower than this season would suggest.

The lack of tournaments also doesn't give you anything to base rankings on other than ETF2L. I think it's unlikely that dd+5 abs would make the semi-finals consistently in Premiership tournaments, despite them currently being the 3/4th ranked team. I don't think they would consistently beat the other Premiership team they met in the QF, they just had good results when it mattered in the season.

Nonetheless they have proven themselves to be mid-Premiership rather than low. I had previous pegged them as 7th at the beginning of the season, now I'd place them 5th on balance. I think with more opportunities to face Premiership teams, they'd average out a little lower than this season would suggest.
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