pie_herowhy is this in the dumpster?
sheepy sort of made this about inmigration more than the attacks and it got derailed for a bit
[quote=pie_hero]why is this in the dumpster?[/quote]
sheepy sort of made this about inmigration more than the attacks and it got derailed for a bit
immigrants cause bombing
how is it not about immigration?
immigrants cause bombing
how is it not about immigration?
hooliimmigrants cause bombing
how is it not about immigration?
I really hope you're being sarcastic
[quote=hooli]immigrants cause bombing
how is it not about immigration?[/quote]
I really hope you're being sarcastic
i'm not, let's talk about it
i'm not, let's talk about it
Penda
sheepy sort of made this about inmigration more than the attacks and it got derailed for a bit
You can't just put all the blame on me. I made 1 post and then like 20 people felt like they needed to reply, some of them just because it was me posting it. Also immigration is a relevant topic and it's pretty hypocritical to blame me for derailing the thread while everyone else also continues to derail the thread.
[quote=Penda]
sheepy sort of made this about inmigration more than the attacks and it got derailed for a bit[/quote]
You can't just put all the blame on me. I made 1 post and then like 20 people felt like they needed to reply, some of them just because it was me posting it. Also immigration is a relevant topic and it's pretty hypocritical to blame me for derailing the thread while everyone else also continues to derail the thread.
My thoughts and prayers are with everyone in Belgium, especially those from our community. I hope everyone's alright.
I feel truly blessed, my brother was looking at flights and would have had a lay over today in Brussels had he not chosen a different route. He's totally rocked by how close to it all he could have been, quite frankly I think everyone who knows him is too. I'm blessed none of my family was affected, and I hope all of our community is lucky enough to be in the same boat.
Same goes for our friends in the CS community, including pros like ScreaM and ex6tenz, can't imagine what they're going through, especially so close to the major.
I can't imagine what those in Belgium are going through. If you need someone to talk/freak out to, I'm sure I'm not the only one in our great community willing to listen. Nos pensées sont avec vous.
My thoughts and prayers are with everyone in Belgium, especially those from our community. I hope everyone's alright.
I feel truly blessed, my brother was looking at flights and would have had a lay over today in Brussels had he not chosen a different route. He's totally rocked by how close to it all he could have been, quite frankly I think everyone who knows him is too. I'm blessed none of my family was affected, and I hope all of our community is lucky enough to be in the same boat.
Same goes for our friends in the CS community, including pros like ScreaM and ex6tenz, can't imagine what they're going through, especially so close to the major.
I can't imagine what those in Belgium are going through. If you need someone to talk/freak out to, I'm sure I'm not the only one in our great community willing to listen. Nos pensées sont avec vous.
my uncle is in an apartment building near the subway that got bombed, but they went into lockdown and he is safe right now so assume the best people.
my uncle is in an apartment building near the subway that got bombed, but they went into lockdown and he is safe right now so assume the best people.
this is a absolutely terrible situation, but can we stop mixing tftv and politics it just becomes a shitstorm
this is a absolutely terrible situation, but can we stop mixing tftv and politics it just becomes a shitstorm
sheepy_dogs_handMaybe it's time people like Merkel or whatever idiots run Sweden realize that inviting millions of Muslims from 3rd world countries into your home will not end well. Not even just the terrorist bombings, so many of these people have no idea how to act in decent countries. They bring terrorism, hatred, violence, rape and radical islam. Even the police are too scared to do anything. Here they attack and run over a crew for absolutely no reason at all https://youtu.be/42jpuXJPk0w?t=3m5s - they get attacked again at 5:15
lol
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]Maybe it's time people like Merkel or whatever idiots run Sweden realize that inviting millions of Muslims from 3rd world countries into your home will not end well. Not even just the terrorist bombings, so many of these people have no idea how to act in decent countries. They bring terrorism, hatred, violence, rape and radical islam. Even the police are too scared to do anything. Here they attack and run over a crew for absolutely no reason at all https://youtu.be/42jpuXJPk0w?t=3m5s - they get attacked again at [url=https://youtu.be/42jpuXJPk0w?t=5m15s]5:15[/url][/quote]
lol
sheepy_dogs_handSetlet
It's more because TFTV is very liberal so it's impossible for people like sheepy to get any meaningful conversation going on because he is downvoted and ridiculed for every word he says.
it's not even that they are liberal. It's that they are liberal but can't stand it when someone posts an opinion that isn't liberal. I am literally hated by like 80% of people here because I said I don't like Islam and refugees shouldn't be allowed into Europe. Doesn't even matter what I am actually like but apparently this makes me an awful person.
please dont make it seem like racism or xenophobia are moderate or right wing positions thank u
its perfectly possible to be conservative without being u
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand][quote=Setlet]
It's more because TFTV is very liberal so it's impossible for people like sheepy to get any meaningful conversation going on because he is downvoted and ridiculed for every word he says.
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it's not even that they are liberal. It's that they are liberal but can't stand it when someone posts an opinion that isn't liberal. I am literally hated by like 80% of people here because I said I don't like Islam and refugees shouldn't be allowed into Europe. Doesn't even matter what I am actually like but apparently this makes me an awful person.[/quote]
please dont make it seem like racism or xenophobia are moderate or right wing positions thank u
its perfectly possible to be conservative without being u
sheepy_dogs_handMaybe it's time people like Merkel or whatever idiots run Sweden realize that inviting millions of Muslims from 3rd world countries into your home will not end well.
Not every refugee is a Muslim. Judaism and Christianity are both major religions in the Middle East and North Africa where these refugees are coming from. There are also many other minority religions in those regions. Who knows, maybe some are agnostic/atheist? Why does it even matter? Would make much more sense to refer to them as "millions of Middle Easterners/North Africans" rather than painting them all under the same brush which is a mistake that repeatedly gets made on this topic.
sheepy_dogs_handthere is most likely a very small amount of terrorists coming with them
What evidence do you have to support this?
sheepy_dogs_handMany of them put no effort in to find a job and many of them are criminals
Evidence?
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]Maybe it's time people like Merkel or whatever idiots run Sweden realize that inviting millions of Muslims from 3rd world countries into your home will not end well.[/quote]
Not every refugee is a Muslim. Judaism and Christianity are both major religions in the Middle East and North Africa where these refugees are coming from. There are also many other minority religions in those regions. Who knows, maybe some are agnostic/atheist? Why does it even matter? Would make much more sense to refer to them as "millions of Middle Easterners/North Africans" rather than painting them all under the same brush which is a mistake that repeatedly gets made on this topic.
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
there is most likely a very small amount of terrorists coming with them[/quote]
What evidence do you have to support this?
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
Many of them put no effort in to find a job and many of them are criminals
[/quote]
Evidence?
eeeplease dont make it seem like racism or xenophobia are moderate or right wing positions thank u
its perfectly possible to be conservative without being u
gotta love elliott land where being against illegal immigration is xenophobic and racist. I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe. I even said in this thread I like immigration when it's controlled. You are really the worst type of liberal where anyone who disagrees with you is racist or evil.
PJCsheepy_dogs_handMaybe it's time people like Merkel or whatever idiots run Sweden realize that inviting millions of Muslims from 3rd world countries into your home will not end well.
Not every refugee is a Muslim. Judaism and Christianity are both major religions in the Middle East and North Africa where these refugees are coming from. There are also many other minority religions in those regions. Who knows, maybe some are agnostic/atheist? Why does it even matter? Would make much more sense to refer to them as "millions of Middle Easterners/North Africans" rather than painting them all under the same brush which is a mistake that repeatedly gets made on this topic.
Yes not ALL of them but the vast majority are Muslim. In syria it's at least 90% Muslim, in Iraq it's probably higher than 95%. Basically it's at least 90% for these countries so it's safe to assume that the refugees are mainly Muslim. I hate to say this but it's the Muslims that are causing the problems, there might be a couple of non-Muslims in there causing problems but the vast majority is Muslim.
PJCsheepy_dogs_handthere is most likely a very small amount of terrorists coming with them
What evidence do you have to support this?
Seems like common sense. I said it's very likely that a VERY SMALL number might be in with the refugees. Seems to me like it's not that far out there to assume that.
PJCsheepy_dogs_handMany of them put no effort in to find a job and many of them are criminals
Evidence?
Pretty sure you can easily see that a lot of them aren't finding jobs or just can't find any due to lack of qualifications or English. You could find this out with just a google search link
If the immigration is controlled then it's much much easier to find them jobs. You can make sure you are bringing in qualified people who know English and who are willing to work.
Also when you take in people from 3rd world Muslim countries you need to remember that the culture over there is much different, certain things that are seen as crime over here are totally fine over there. Some of them even think pedophilia is totally ok and there was recently a massive thing in the uk with possibly hundreds of children being affected. Before Elliott starts crying, i'm not saying they are all pedophiles but it's not just this. Just look at the video I linked, many of them think it's fine to just start attacking people they don't like, look at the German cologne attacks and the other countless rapes and assaults, many of which have been covered up by the Swedish and German governments. Obviously not all of them are like this but if the immigration was controlled instead of just opening up and letting everyone in, you could control it and only let in those who are qualified, will contribute to society and are therefore much less likely to cause trouble.
[quote=eee]
please dont make it seem like racism or xenophobia are moderate or right wing positions thank u
its perfectly possible to be conservative without being u[/quote]
gotta love elliott land where being against illegal immigration is xenophobic and racist. I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe. I even said in this thread I like immigration when it's controlled. You are really the worst type of liberal where anyone who disagrees with you is racist or evil.
[quote=PJC][quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]Maybe it's time people like Merkel or whatever idiots run Sweden realize that inviting millions of Muslims from 3rd world countries into your home will not end well.[/quote]
Not every refugee is a Muslim. Judaism and Christianity are both major religions in the Middle East and North Africa where these refugees are coming from. There are also many other minority religions in those regions. Who knows, maybe some are agnostic/atheist? Why does it even matter? Would make much more sense to refer to them as "millions of Middle Easterners/North Africans" rather than painting them all under the same brush which is a mistake that repeatedly gets made on this topic.
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Yes not ALL of them but the vast majority are Muslim. In syria it's at least 90% Muslim, in Iraq it's probably higher than 95%. Basically it's at least 90% for these countries so it's safe to assume that the refugees are mainly Muslim. I hate to say this but it's the Muslims that are causing the problems, there might be a couple of non-Muslims in there causing problems but the vast majority is Muslim.
[quote=PJC]
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
there is most likely a very small amount of terrorists coming with them[/quote]
What evidence do you have to support this?
[/quote]
Seems like common sense. I said it's very likely that a VERY SMALL number might be in with the refugees. Seems to me like it's not that far out there to assume that.
[quote=PJC]
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
Many of them put no effort in to find a job and many of them are criminals
[/quote]
Evidence?[/quote]
Pretty sure you can easily see that a lot of them aren't finding jobs or just can't find any due to lack of qualifications or English. You could find this out with just a google search [url=http://uk.businessinsider.com/charts-how-unemployment-rates-differ-for-nationals-and-foreigners-across-europe-2015-9?r=US&IR=T]link[/url]
If the immigration is controlled then it's much much easier to find them jobs. You can make sure you are bringing in qualified people who know English and who are willing to work.
Also when you take in people from 3rd world Muslim countries you need to remember that the culture over there is much different, certain things that are seen as crime over here are totally fine over there. Some of them even think pedophilia is totally ok and there was recently a massive thing in the uk with possibly hundreds of children being affected. Before Elliott starts crying, i'm not saying they are all pedophiles but it's not just this. Just look at the video I linked, many of them think it's fine to just start attacking people they don't like, look at the German cologne attacks and the other countless rapes and assaults, many of which have been covered up by the Swedish and German governments. Obviously not all of them are like this but if the immigration was controlled instead of just opening up and letting everyone in, you could control it and only let in those who are qualified, will contribute to society and are therefore much less likely to cause trouble.
sheepy_dogs_handeeeplease dont make it seem like racism or xenophobia are moderate or right wing positions thank u
its perfectly possible to be conservative without being u
gotta love elliott land where being against illegal immigration is xenophobic and racist. I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe. I even said in this thread I like immigration when it's controlled.
Can you please stop with the "please show me where i said x" type of sentences? As if written text has no subtext. Who cares what you literally said. You can keep sprinkling the words "probably", "many", "a majority", "some" over your incoherent ramblings as much as you want. Congratulations on succeeding at making vague and ambivalent suggestive claims which you can then later deny any reading of. Normal people, however, can read between the lines. Don't insult people's intelligence by thinking they can't.
I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe.
This thread was about the Brussels terrorist attacks, yet you made it about immigration. You associate one of the most horrendous and unthinkable type of events in society with a general phenomenon of movement of people between nations. Terrorism is about fear (phobia). Immigrants are the xenos. Do I need to spell out the rest?
You're being an asshole towards the people that were directly or indirectly victimized by this horrible attack by hijacking the topic to put forward your own agenda. YOU killed this thread. If you want to talk about immigration or whatever (most probably) unfounded opinion you have on other subjects, go make new threads. That's how a forum works. Otherwise, I might as well continue with: "What's the deal with chunky peanut butter? Seriously? Is this like a peanut butter by lazy peanut butter makers?"
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand][quote=eee]
please dont make it seem like racism or xenophobia are moderate or right wing positions thank u
its perfectly possible to be conservative without being u[/quote]
gotta love elliott land where being against illegal immigration is xenophobic and racist. I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe. I even said in this thread I like immigration when it's controlled. [/quote]
Can you please stop with the "please show me where i said x" type of sentences? As if written text has no subtext. Who cares what you literally said. You can keep sprinkling the words "probably", "many", "a majority", "some" over your incoherent ramblings as much as you want. Congratulations on succeeding at making vague and ambivalent suggestive claims which you can then later deny any reading of. Normal people, however, can read between the lines. Don't insult people's intelligence by thinking they can't.
[quote] I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe. [/quote]
This thread was about the Brussels terrorist attacks, yet you made it about immigration. You associate one of the most horrendous and unthinkable type of events in society with a general phenomenon of movement of people between nations. Terrorism is about fear (phobia). Immigrants are the xenos. Do I need to spell out the rest?
You're being an asshole towards the people that were directly or indirectly victimized by this horrible attack by hijacking the topic to put forward your own agenda. YOU killed this thread. If you want to talk about immigration or whatever (most probably) unfounded opinion you have on other subjects, go make new threads. That's how a forum works. Otherwise, I might as well continue with: [i]"What's the deal with chunky peanut butter? Seriously? Is this like a peanut butter by lazy peanut butter makers?"[/i]
skeej"What's the deal with chunky peanut butter? Seriously? Is this like a peanut butter by lazy peanut butter makers?"
Chunky DansGame
Some good news a few of my close friends who were across in Brussells coming back from their holiday in Bruges are all safe.
[quote=skeej]"What's the deal with chunky peanut butter? Seriously? Is this like a peanut butter by lazy peanut butter makers?"[/quote]
Chunky DansGame
Some good news a few of my close friends who were across in Brussells coming back from their holiday in Bruges are all safe.
sheepy_dogs_handYes not ALL of them but the vast majority are Muslim. In syria it's at least 90% Muslim, in Iraq it's probably higher than 95%. Basically it's at least 90% for these countries so it's safe to assume that the refugees are mainly Muslim. I hate to say this but it's the Muslims that are causing the problems, there might be a couple of non-Muslims in there causing problems but the vast majority is Muslim.
If civil war suddenly broke out in the US and its refugees migrated to Europe to get away, would you refer to those refugees as Christians or Americans based on the fact that roughly 71% of Americans consider themselves Christians? Still seems like it makes more sense to refer to them by their nationality/region rather than a label for their own personal beliefs to me.
sheepy_dogs_handSeems like common sense. I said it's very likely that a VERY SMALL number might be in with the refugees. Seems to me like it's not that far out there to assume that.
Based on what biscuits said I find it hard to agree that it's common sense.
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
Yes not ALL of them but the vast majority are Muslim. In syria it's at least 90% Muslim, in Iraq it's probably higher than 95%. Basically it's at least 90% for these countries so it's safe to assume that the refugees are mainly Muslim. I hate to say this but it's the Muslims that are causing the problems, there might be a couple of non-Muslims in there causing problems but the vast majority is Muslim.
[/quote]
If civil war suddenly broke out in the US and its refugees migrated to Europe to get away, would you refer to those refugees as Christians or Americans based on the fact that roughly 71% of Americans consider themselves Christians? Still seems like it makes more sense to refer to them by their nationality/region rather than a label for their own personal beliefs to me.
[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]
Seems like common sense. I said it's very likely that a VERY SMALL number might be in with the refugees. Seems to me like it's not that far out there to assume that.
[/quote]
Based on what biscuits said I find it hard to agree that it's common sense.
skeejsheepy_dogs_handeeeplease dont make it seem like racism or xenophobia are moderate or right wing positions thank u
its perfectly possible to be conservative without being u
gotta love elliott land where being against illegal immigration is xenophobic and racist. I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe. I even said in this thread I like immigration when it's controlled.
Can you please stop with the "please show me where i said x" type of sentences? As if written text has no subtext. Who cares what you literally said. You can keep sprinkling the words "probably", "many", "a majority", "some" over your incoherent ramblings as much as you want. Congratulations on succeeding at making vague and ambivalent suggestive claims which you can then later deny any reading of. Normal people, however, can read between the lines. Don't insult people's intelligence by thinking they can't.
I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe.
This thread was about the Brussels terrorist attacks, yet you made it about immigration. You associate one of the most horrendous and unthinkable type of events in society with a general phenomenon of movement of people between nations. Terrorism is about fear (phobia). Immigrants are the xenos. Do I need to spell out the rest?
You're being an asshole towards the people that were directly or indirectly victimized by this horrible attack by hijacking the topic to put forward your own agenda. YOU killed this thread. If you want to talk about immigration or whatever (most probably) unfounded opinion you have on other subjects, go make new threads. That's how a forum works. Otherwise, I might as well continue with: "What's the deal with chunky peanut butter? Seriously? Is this like a peanut butter by lazy peanut butter makers?"
skeej are you ok? please trust me it's not worth getting this mad over an argument with me, no one takes my posts seriously anyway. I still have to point out how wrong I think you are here, I need to use lots of "i said x" type of sentences" because people here love replying to a post a make and taking everything out of context so they can look like they are right. You don't know me as a person and neither do people like elliott, you just seem to make assumptions based on a post I made that you all take way out of context or even just put words into my mouth. For example people saying that I said refugees are responsible for the Brussels bombing probably didn't even read my post properly and just wanted to find something to argue about. I clearly never said that and anyone who says I did say that are obviously taking things way out of context or just making it up. I don't know why you and people like Elliott are so intent to tell everyone how "racist" I am or how much I hate Muslims. Both of you have no idea who I actually am and it's stupid to make big accusations like that over a video game forum. Same way you thought I was actually raging and screaming and threatening to cut people over no logs because damneasy typed it in chat. I have also still yet to see a post that say's I hate Muslims.
[quote=skeej][quote=sheepy_dogs_hand][quote=eee]
please dont make it seem like racism or xenophobia are moderate or right wing positions thank u
its perfectly possible to be conservative without being u[/quote]
gotta love elliott land where being against illegal immigration is xenophobic and racist. I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe. I even said in this thread I like immigration when it's controlled. [/quote]
Can you please stop with the "please show me where i said x" type of sentences? As if written text has no subtext. Who cares what you literally said. You can keep sprinkling the words "probably", "many", "a majority", "some" over your incoherent ramblings as much as you want. Congratulations on succeeding at making vague and ambivalent suggestive claims which you can then later deny any reading of. Normal people, however, can read between the lines. Don't insult people's intelligence by thinking they can't.
[quote] I would really like you to tell me what I have said that makes me an actual racist or xenophobe. [/quote]
This thread was about the Brussels terrorist attacks, yet you made it about immigration. You associate one of the most horrendous and unthinkable type of events in society with a general phenomenon of movement of people between nations. Terrorism is about fear (phobia). Immigrants are the xenos. Do I need to spell out the rest?
You're being an asshole towards the people that were directly or indirectly victimized by this horrible attack by hijacking the topic to put forward your own agenda. YOU killed this thread. If you want to talk about immigration or whatever (most probably) unfounded opinion you have on other subjects, go make new threads. That's how a forum works. Otherwise, I might as well continue with: [i]"What's the deal with chunky peanut butter? Seriously? Is this like a peanut butter by lazy peanut butter makers?"[/i][/quote]
skeej are you ok? please trust me it's not worth getting this mad over an argument with me, no one takes my posts seriously anyway. I still have to point out how wrong I think you are here, I need to use lots of "i said x" type of sentences" because people here love replying to a post a make and taking everything out of context so they can look like they are right. You don't know me as a person and neither do people like elliott, you just seem to make assumptions based on a post I made that you all take way out of context or even just put words into my mouth. For example people saying that I said refugees are responsible for the Brussels bombing probably didn't even read my post properly and just wanted to find something to argue about. I clearly never said that and anyone who says I did say that are obviously taking things way out of context or just making it up. I don't know why you and people like Elliott are so intent to tell everyone how "racist" I am or how much I hate Muslims. Both of you have no idea who I actually am and it's stupid to make big accusations like that over a video game forum. Same way you thought I was actually raging and screaming and threatening to cut people over no logs because damneasy typed it in chat. I have also still yet to see a post that say's I hate Muslims.
skeejincoherent rambling
[quote=skeej]incoherent rambling[/quote]