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I have a sensitivity problem...
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I usually play tf2 on a laptop, and sometimes I switch to a different pc. my mice with both setups have the same dpi and my ingame sens is the same for both but for some reason when I go the same distance with my mouse, it doesn't turn the same amount.
Both setups have different resolutions so I was thinking that might be the problem. But it persisted when I lowered my res on setup 2.

I usually play tf2 on a laptop, and sometimes I switch to a different pc. my mice with both setups have the same dpi and my ingame sens is the same for both but for some reason when I go the same distance with my mouse, it doesn't turn the same amount.
Both setups have different resolutions so I was thinking that might be the problem. But it persisted when I lowered my res on setup 2.
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maybe u have raw input off, and a diff windows sens on setup 2 ?

maybe u have raw input off, and a diff windows sens on setup 2 ?
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raw input is on for both and afaik the windows sens doesn't matter for ingame sens, I've tested that

raw input is on for both and afaik the windows sens doesn't matter for ingame sens, I've tested that
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are you using the same mouse for each setup? if not, try doing that and you will be able to work out if its the mouse or the game that makes it feel different

are you using the same mouse for each setup? if not, try doing that and you will be able to work out if its the mouse or the game that makes it feel different
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Shpeeismeraw input is on for both and afaik the windows sens doesn't matter for ingame sens, I've tested that

when i have my windows sens on anything other then 6/11(default) and raw input off it changes my sensetivity by a decent amount, but as u said u have it on on both so that cant be it then.

[quote=Shpeeisme]raw input is on for both and afaik the windows sens doesn't matter for ingame sens, I've tested that[/quote]

when i have my windows sens on anything other then 6/11(default) and raw input off it changes my sensetivity by a decent amount, but as u said u have it on on both so that cant be it then.
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Yeah BumFreeze good idea, I'll try that when I can

Yeah BumFreeze good idea, I'll try that when I can
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The models are:
Logitech B100 800 dpi
Logitech b110 800 dpi

the b100 does a quarter or a 360 more than the b110 on the same pc even though I didn't change my ingame sens.
I could try to change my sens on 1 of the 2 pcs as best I can but that seems dodgy. Any way I can fix this while keeping my ingame sens the same for both pcs?

The models are:
Logitech B100 800 dpi
Logitech b110 800 dpi

the b100 does a quarter or a 360 more than the b110 on the same pc even though I didn't change my ingame sens.
I could try to change my sens on 1 of the 2 pcs as best I can but that seems dodgy. Any way I can fix this while keeping my ingame sens the same for both pcs?
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the cpi might not be the same, it could be that simple.

setting your mouse to 800cpi does not necessarily mean it's tracking at exactly 800cpi - that's just the advertised step.
there are even mice with steps that are 100+cpi off from the advertised step. this is also true for newer mice and sensors.
this is also the case with the same mouse. for example it is known that most MLT04 mice like the WMO have a cpi of between ~420 and ~450, even though it's always been advertised as 400.

anyway, you can use MouseTester to measure the cpi of your mouse. you might be a few cpi off because of human error, but other than that it's accurate:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1590569/mousetester-software-reloaded
direct link to download: http://www.overclock.net/attachments/38838

also, did you use LGS to set the cpi of the mice? this does not always work well with older mice.
edit: it looks like their only cpi step is 800, so i guess not. :-)

the cpi might not be the same, it could be that simple.

setting your mouse to 800cpi does not necessarily mean it's tracking at exactly 800cpi - that's just the advertised step.
there are even mice with steps that are 100+cpi off from the advertised step. this is also true for newer mice and sensors.
this is also the case with the same mouse. for example it is known that most MLT04 mice like the WMO have a cpi of between ~420 and ~450, even though it's always been advertised as 400.

anyway, you can use MouseTester to measure the cpi of your mouse. you might be a few cpi off because of human error, but other than that it's accurate:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1590569/mousetester-software-reloaded
direct link to download: http://www.overclock.net/attachments/38838

also, did you use LGS to set the cpi of the mice? this does not always work well with older mice.
edit: it looks like their only cpi step is 800, so i guess not. :-)
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"Sorry, you don't have the required permissions to download attachments."
I need to be part of the user group to be able to download this, any idea how I do that? Or could you upload it somewhere else maybe? Thanks for the help already :
also, is there a difference beween dpi and cpi?

"Sorry, you don't have the required permissions to download attachments."
I need to be part of the user group to be able to download this, any idea how I do that? Or could you upload it somewhere else maybe? Thanks for the help already :
also, is there a difference beween dpi and cpi?
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they refer to the same thing, but cpi is the correct term. (Counts Per Inch - sensors send X and Y counts.)
Dots is basically wrong, for example you might move 2 dots(pixels) for every count your mouse sends if your windows is set up like that.

anyway sorry, i had no clue you had to be registered.
i uploaded it to tinyupload here: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=24005262032705726246

they refer to the same thing, but cpi is the correct term. (Counts Per Inch - sensors send X and Y counts.)
Dots is basically wrong, for example you might move 2 dots(pixels) for every count your mouse sends if your windows is set up like that.

anyway sorry, i had no clue you had to be registered.
i uploaded it to tinyupload here: http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=24005262032705726246
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Okay, so if I get the cpis for both the mice using this software, do you think it would be best to just use this site: http://www.notalent.org/sensitivity/sensitivity.htm to calculate what my ingame sens should be for the b110 to match the b100?

Okay, so if I get the cpis for both the mice using this software, do you think it would be best to just use this site: http://www.notalent.org/sensitivity/sensitivity.htm to calculate what my ingame sens should be for the b110 to match the b100?
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yup, that should work fine.
when i measure the cpi with that software, i just put a small piece of tape on the back of my mouse, vertically. then i just slide my mouse 10cm across a ruler using that tape as start and finish, giving me a very precise measurement.

yup, that should work fine.
when i measure the cpi with that software, i just put a small piece of tape on the back of my mouse, vertically. then i just slide my mouse 10cm across a ruler using that tape as start and finish, giving me a very precise measurement.
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I just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.

I just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.
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hrI just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.

dpi =/= cpi

[quote=hr]I just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.[/quote]
dpi =/= cpi
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hrI just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.

wth, that's really low. what DA model is that?
i just measured my DA3g (1833) and my DA3.5g (1698) on black cloth. the 3.5g has two stacks of feet which has lowered the cpi. (i stacked feet on it to lower the LOD a bit.)

[quote=hr]I just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.[/quote]

wth, that's really low. what DA model is that?
i just measured my DA3g (1833) and my DA3.5g (1698) on black cloth. the 3.5g has two stacks of feet which has lowered the cpi. (i stacked feet on it to lower the LOD a bit.)
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deguhrI just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.dpi =/= cpi

Isn't cpi just supposed to be a more accurate way of saying dpi? In terms of conversion it should just be the same, at least that is what the internet says when I look in a search engine.

BucakehrI just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.
wth, that's really low. what DA model is that?
i just measured my DA3g (1833) and my DA3.5g (1698) on black cloth. the 3.5g has two stacks of feet which has lowered the cpi. (i stacked feet on it to lower the LOD a bit.)

It's a 3.5G on a razer goliathus control mousemat. I did get it in 2011, I'm not sure if it can change somehow over time or not.

Edit: Testing it again and I'm getting around 1850 now, no idea why it was reading so low before although I did have a graphical tablet plugged in so maybe that fucked it up somehow.

[quote=degu][quote=hr]I just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.[/quote]
dpi =/= cpi[/quote]
Isn't cpi just supposed to be a more accurate way of saying dpi? In terms of conversion it should just be the same, at least that is what the internet says when I look in a search engine.

[quote=Bucake][quote=hr]I just tried this for the sake of curiosity and apparently my deathadder is 1500cpi when set to 1800.[/quote]

wth, that's really low. what DA model is that?
i just measured my DA3g (1833) and my DA3.5g (1698) on black cloth. the 3.5g has two stacks of feet which has lowered the cpi. (i stacked feet on it to lower the LOD a bit.)[/quote]
It's a 3.5G on a razer goliathus control mousemat. I did get it in 2011, I'm not sure if it can change somehow over time or not.

Edit: Testing it again and I'm getting around 1850 now, no idea why it was reading so low before although I did have a graphical tablet plugged in so maybe that fucked it up somehow.
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do you get the same fps on both set ups?

do you get the same fps on both set ups?
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Daytondo you get the same fps on both set ups?

No, on the laptop I het something like 50 fps and pn the computer 300 in Call areas and 100 in fights

[quote=Dayton]do you get the same fps on both set ups?[/quote]
No, on the laptop I het something like 50 fps and pn the computer 300 in Call areas and 100 in fights
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ShpeeismeDaytondo you get the same fps on both set ups?No, on the laptop I het something like 50 fps and pn the computer 300 in Call areas and 100 in fights

When I had to use an old PC with low FPS my sensitivity was way different and "stuttery", even when I was using the same mouse with the same settings. Try checking your sensitivity inside an empty server with higher fps and check if it feels different.

[quote=Shpeeisme][quote=Dayton]do you get the same fps on both set ups?[/quote]
No, on the laptop I het something like 50 fps and pn the computer 300 in Call areas and 100 in fights[/quote]

When I had to use an old PC with low FPS my sensitivity was [b]way[/b] different and "stuttery", even when I was using the same mouse with the same settings. Try checking your sensitivity inside an empty server with higher fps and check if it feels different.
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if the monitors have different aspect ratios then you will have a different fov which will give a different feeling for the same sensitivity.

if the monitors have different aspect ratios then you will have a different fov which will give a different feeling for the same sensitivity.
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