Booties are one of the best unlocks Valve have come up with, how the fuck you can think they're overpowered when it literally removes one of the weapons that demos use is nuts. This is gonna be one of those threads that you look back at in like a year and think how retarded it was that people actually thought like this.
We need to talk about the booties
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Booties are one of the best unlocks Valve have come up with, how the fuck you can think they're overpowered when it literally removes one of the weapons that demos use is nuts. This is gonna be one of those threads that you look back at in like a year and think how retarded it was that people actually thought like this.
kosBooties are one of the best unlocks Valve have come up with, how the fuck you can think they're overpowered when it literally removes one of the weapons that demos use is nuts. This is gonna be one of those threads that you look back at in like a year and think how retarded it was that people actually thought like this.
Im already looking at this like that
[quote=kos]Booties are one of the best unlocks Valve have come up with, how the fuck you can think they're overpowered when it literally removes one of the weapons that demos use is nuts. This is gonna be one of those threads that you look back at in like a year and think how retarded it was that people actually thought like this.[/quote]
Im already looking at this like that [img]https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/354/1.0[/img]
Im already looking at this like that [img]https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/354/1.0[/img]
I think people will get better at fighting it when they have to do it more. Doesn't feel banworthy yet, especially when you consider how some demos do 30-40% of their damage with pipes, which is way more than any other class uses their secondary.
I think people will get better at fighting it when they have to do it more. Doesn't feel banworthy yet, especially when you consider how some demos do 30-40% of their damage with pipes, which is way more than any other class uses their secondary.
Making this thread made a ton of Demos use the Booties in lobbies and I don't know how I feel about that.
Making this thread made a ton of Demos use the Booties in lobbies and I don't know how I feel about that.
I'm just gonna go ahead and bump this and see if people realize how stupid the unlock is yet
I'm just gonna go ahead and bump this and see if people realize how stupid the unlock is yet
demoman is already a weak class and booties are only made op when used by some good demomen I don't understand why would anyone want to ban them.. Pipes are such a big part of soo many demoman like 80% of demoman can't hit stickies consistently meanwhile pipes they do so I dont know it seems stupid to ban the booties
demoman is already a weak class and booties are only made op when used by some good demomen I don't understand why would anyone want to ban them.. Pipes are such a big part of soo many demoman like 80% of demoman can't hit stickies consistently meanwhile pipes they do so I dont know it seems stupid to ban the booties
it has less to do with whether or not it's overpowered and more to do with a passive bonus being an alternative to an aim dependent weapon being a really dumb concept
either way judging by how most invite players feel about it it will likely be banned next season
it has less to do with whether or not it's overpowered and more to do with a passive bonus being an alternative to an aim dependent weapon being a really dumb concept
either way judging by how most invite players feel about it it will likely be banned next season
either way judging by how most invite players feel about it it will likely be banned next season
Why is it such a big deal in na? I barely see anyone use it in eu, mabye cuz na cant aim pipes because their higher ping Kappa.
tbh its shit, id rather do 400 damage with pipes then have a more health and slight faster move speed
Why is it such a big deal in na? I barely see anyone use it in eu, mabye cuz na cant aim pipes because their higher ping Kappa.
tbh its shit, id rather do 400 damage with pipes then have a more health and slight faster move speed
tbh its shit, id rather do 400 damage with pipes then have a more health and slight faster move speed
demo have the least useful unlocks between 6s classes and you want to remove the booties too like that's the only legit unlock that you can use while giving up your primary weapon that's a really big deal, not having pipes means more vulnerability for the demo less choke spam you can almost cross chokes as med without popping knowing that the demo dosen't have pipes it's fucking dumb to even think about banning it
demo have the least useful unlocks between 6s classes and you want to remove the booties too like that's the only legit unlock that you can use while giving up your primary weapon that's a really big deal, not having pipes means more vulnerability for the demo less choke spam you can almost cross chokes as med without popping knowing that the demo dosen't have pipes it's fucking dumb to even think about banning it
exylatedemo have the least useful unlocks between 6s classes
demo has the fewest situationally viable unlocks but the most permanently viable unlocks (booties, pain train, iron bomber, old loose cannon rip). this is compared to pistol vs winger on scout and shotgun vs gunboats on pocket
[quote=exylate]demo have the least useful unlocks between 6s classes[/quote]
demo has the fewest situationally viable unlocks but the most permanently viable unlocks (booties, pain train, iron bomber, old loose cannon rip). this is compared to pistol vs winger on scout and shotgun vs gunboats on pocket
demo has the fewest situationally viable unlocks but the most permanently viable unlocks (booties, pain train, iron bomber, old loose cannon rip). this is compared to pistol vs winger on scout and shotgun vs gunboats on pocket
This title is like something leafy would come up with.
This title is like something leafy would come up with.
fatswimdudeexylatedemo have the least useful unlocks between 6s classes
demo has the fewest situationally viable unlocks but the most permanently viable unlocks (booties, pain train, iron bomber, old loose cannon rip). this is compared to pistol vs winger on scout and shotgun vs gunboats on pocket
you shouldn't even consider the iron bomber as an unlock and the pain train is a multiclass unlock loose canon is useless now so beside the booties there is no unlock worth using atm
[quote=fatswimdude][quote=exylate]demo have the least useful unlocks between 6s classes[/quote]
demo has the fewest situationally viable unlocks but the most permanently viable unlocks (booties, pain train, iron bomber, old loose cannon rip). this is compared to pistol vs winger on scout and shotgun vs gunboats on pocket[/quote]
you shouldn't even consider the iron bomber as an unlock and the pain train is a multiclass unlock loose canon is useless now so beside the booties there is no unlock worth using atm
demo has the fewest situationally viable unlocks but the most permanently viable unlocks (booties, pain train, iron bomber, old loose cannon rip). this is compared to pistol vs winger on scout and shotgun vs gunboats on pocket[/quote]
you shouldn't even consider the iron bomber as an unlock and the pain train is a multiclass unlock loose canon is useless now so beside the booties there is no unlock worth using atm
Bdonskiit has less to do with whether or not it's overpowered and more to do with a passive bonus being an alternative to an aim dependent weapon being a really dumb concept
either way judging by how most invite players feel about it it will likely be banned next season
You could kind of apply that argument to gunboats as well though and I'm sure when they came out people
There's way less of a contest between gunboats and shotgun than there is between booties and pipes as well.
I think the issue most people have is it can be used as a crutch if you aren't very good, but I think they could end up changing the role the demo plays like we've seen with gunboats pocket. Removing airpipes does suck though.
[quote=Bdonski]it has less to do with whether or not it's overpowered and more to do with a passive bonus being an alternative to an aim dependent weapon being a really dumb concept
either way judging by how most invite players feel about it it will likely be banned next season[/quote]
You could kind of apply that argument to gunboats as well though and I'm sure when they came out people
There's way less of a contest between gunboats and shotgun than there is between booties and pipes as well.
I think the issue most people have is it can be used as a crutch if you aren't very good, but I think they could end up changing the role the demo plays like we've seen with gunboats pocket. Removing airpipes does suck though.
either way judging by how most invite players feel about it it will likely be banned next season[/quote]
You could kind of apply that argument to gunboats as well though and I'm sure when they came out people
There's way less of a contest between gunboats and shotgun than there is between booties and pipes as well.
I think the issue most people have is it can be used as a crutch if you aren't very good, but I think they could end up changing the role the demo plays like we've seen with gunboats pocket. Removing airpipes does suck though.
Read the title
Wrote up some shit about booties
Realized the discussion was related to the wee booties and not actual booties
Disappointment
Read the title
Wrote up some shit about booties
Realized the discussion was related to the wee booties and not actual booties
Disappointment
Wrote up some shit about booties
Realized the discussion was related to the wee booties and not actual booties
Disappointment
I think booties are fine, gives me an option if I'm tilting and not hitting pipes for some reason.
I think booties are fine, gives me an option if I'm tilting and not hitting pipes for some reason.
why would u need more hp when u can just kill the guy? then he would be dead and he couldnt hurt u?? also how would u hold last when u put sticks on point then cant do anything??? ye midfights wooooooooooooo but like when do you even walk???? "yo homies i got an idea lets ban an item that is only good on metalworks cause its a shit map and i cant play my class i shoulda quit after the sticky nerf" - you. #bars
why would u need more hp when u can just kill the guy? then he would be dead and he couldnt hurt u?? also how would u hold last when u put sticks on point then cant do anything??? ye midfights wooooooooooooo but like when do you even walk???? "yo homies i got an idea lets ban an item that is only good on metalworks cause its a shit map and i cant play my class i shoulda quit after the sticky nerf" - you. [s][/s] #bars
ZestyBdonskiit has less to do with whether or not it's overpowered and more to do with a passive bonus being an alternative to an aim dependent weapon being a really dumb concept
either way judging by how most invite players feel about it it will likely be banned next season
You could kind of apply that argument to gunboats as well though and I'm sure when they came out people
There's way less of a contest between gunboats and shotgun than there is between booties and pipes as well.
I think the issue most people have is it can be used as a crutch if you aren't very good, but I think they could end up changing the role the demo plays like we've seen with gunboats pocket. Removing airpipes does suck though.
The gunboats are different in that they increase the skill ceiling and let you do jump map jumps in game, while the 25HP of the booties doesn't confer nearly the same movement buff. Gunboats trade active hitscan skill for a passive buff that is only really useful if you're good at an arguably harder and more active skill. The Booties trade active projectile skill for a passive health buff and a move/jumpspeed bonus that can't really be actively used. If the booties opened up new ways for demos to be better than one another, they'd be much more positively embraced imo
[quote=Zesty][quote=Bdonski]it has less to do with whether or not it's overpowered and more to do with a passive bonus being an alternative to an aim dependent weapon being a really dumb concept
either way judging by how most invite players feel about it it will likely be banned next season[/quote]
You could kind of apply that argument to gunboats as well though and I'm sure when they came out people
There's way less of a contest between gunboats and shotgun than there is between booties and pipes as well.
I think the issue most people have is it can be used as a crutch if you aren't very good, but I think they could end up changing the role the demo plays like we've seen with gunboats pocket. Removing airpipes does suck though.[/quote]
The gunboats are different in that they increase the skill ceiling and let you do jump map jumps in game, while the 25HP of the booties doesn't confer nearly the same movement buff. Gunboats trade active hitscan skill for a passive buff that is only really useful if you're good at an arguably harder and more active skill. The Booties trade active projectile skill for a passive health buff and a move/jumpspeed bonus that can't really be actively used. If the booties opened up new ways for demos to be better than one another, they'd be much more positively embraced imo
either way judging by how most invite players feel about it it will likely be banned next season[/quote]
You could kind of apply that argument to gunboats as well though and I'm sure when they came out people
There's way less of a contest between gunboats and shotgun than there is between booties and pipes as well.
I think the issue most people have is it can be used as a crutch if you aren't very good, but I think they could end up changing the role the demo plays like we've seen with gunboats pocket. Removing airpipes does suck though.[/quote]
The gunboats are different in that they increase the skill ceiling and let you do jump map jumps in game, while the 25HP of the booties doesn't confer nearly the same movement buff. Gunboats trade active hitscan skill for a passive buff that is only really useful if you're good at an arguably harder and more active skill. The Booties trade active projectile skill for a passive health buff and a move/jumpspeed bonus that can't really be actively used. If the booties opened up new ways for demos to be better than one another, they'd be much more positively embraced imo
Giuseppewhy would u need more hp when u can just kill the guy? then he would be dead and he couldnt hurt u?? also how would u hold last when u put sticks on point then cant do anything??? ye midfights wooooooooooooo but like when do you even walk???? "yo homies i got an idea lets ban an item that is only good on metalworks cause its a shit map and i cant play my class i shoulda quit after the sticky nerf" - you.#bars
Literally everything you say is so stupid and looks like a five year old typed it
[quote=Giuseppe]why would u need more hp when u can just kill the guy? then he would be dead and he couldnt hurt u?? also how would u hold last when u put sticks on point then cant do anything??? ye midfights wooooooooooooo but like when do you even walk???? "yo homies i got an idea lets ban an item that is only good on metalworks cause its a shit map and i cant play my class i shoulda quit after the sticky nerf" - you. [s][/s] #bars[/quote]
Literally everything you say is so stupid and looks like a five year old typed it
Literally everything you say is so stupid and looks like a five year old typed it
flufnGiuseppewhy would u need more hp when u can just kill the guy? then he would be dead and he couldnt hurt u?? also how would u hold last when u put sticks on point then cant do anything??? ye midfights wooooooooooooo but like when do you even walk???? "yo homies i got an idea lets ban an item that is only good on metalworks cause its a shit map and i cant play my class i shoulda quit after the sticky nerf" - you.Literally everything you say is so stupid and looks like a five year old typed it#bars
dude 5 year olds literally cant type u fucking IDIOT (if they can then idk they are gods but i gotta see one first to belive it u know?) and how is what i said stupid?? its the truth man thats all i speak and nothing but pce
[quote=flufn][quote=Giuseppe]why would u need more hp when u can just kill the guy? then he would be dead and he couldnt hurt u?? also how would u hold last when u put sticks on point then cant do anything??? ye midfights wooooooooooooo but like when do you even walk???? "yo homies i got an idea lets ban an item that is only good on metalworks cause its a shit map and i cant play my class i shoulda quit after the sticky nerf" - you. [s][/s] #bars[/quote]
Literally everything you say is so stupid and looks like a five year old typed it[/quote]
dude 5 year olds literally cant type u fucking IDIOT (if they can then idk they are gods but i gotta see one first to belive it u know?) and how is what i said stupid?? its the truth man thats all i speak and nothing but pce
Literally everything you say is so stupid and looks like a five year old typed it[/quote]
dude 5 year olds literally cant type u fucking IDIOT (if they can then idk they are gods but i gotta see one first to belive it u know?) and how is what i said stupid?? its the truth man thats all i speak and nothing but pce
Giuseppeflufndude 5 year olds literally cant type u fucking IDIOT (if they can then idk they are gods but i gotta see one first to belive it u know?) and how is what i said stupid?? its the truth man thats all i speak and nothing but pceGiuseppewhy would u need more hp when u can just kill the guy? then he would be dead and he couldnt hurt u?? also how would u hold last when u put sticks on point then cant do anything??? ye midfights wooooooooooooo but like when do you even walk???? "yo homies i got an idea lets ban an item that is only good on metalworks cause its a shit map and i cant play my class i shoulda quit after the sticky nerf" - you.Literally everything you say is so stupid and looks like a five year old typed it#bars
u GOT ME dood f1ve urolds cant type Xd
[quote=Giuseppe][quote=flufn][quote=Giuseppe]why would u need more hp when u can just kill the guy? then he would be dead and he couldnt hurt u?? also how would u hold last when u put sticks on point then cant do anything??? ye midfights wooooooooooooo but like when do you even walk???? "yo homies i got an idea lets ban an item that is only good on metalworks cause its a shit map and i cant play my class i shoulda quit after the sticky nerf" - you. [s][/s] #bars[/quote]
Literally everything you say is so stupid and looks like a five year old typed it[/quote]
dude 5 year olds literally cant type u fucking IDIOT (if they can then idk they are gods but i gotta see one first to belive it u know?) and how is what i said stupid?? its the truth man thats all i speak and nothing but pce[/quote]
u GOT ME dood f1ve urolds cant type Xd
Literally everything you say is so stupid and looks like a five year old typed it[/quote]
dude 5 year olds literally cant type u fucking IDIOT (if they can then idk they are gods but i gotta see one first to belive it u know?) and how is what i said stupid?? its the truth man thats all i speak and nothing but pce[/quote]
u GOT ME dood f1ve urolds cant type Xd
The Booties also have the problem weapons like the Dangershield and Vita saw have, if one Demo runs them the other is pretty much forced to especially on mid fights. While this isn't always true outside of mid fights some maps such as Granary, Sunshine and Metalworks you pretty much have to use them full time if the other demo is other wise you are hurting your team.
I'm personally not a fan of them but if I need to run them for the sake of my team or I feel I'm not doing anything with pipes I'll use them
The Booties also have the problem weapons like the Dangershield and Vita saw have, if one Demo runs them the other is pretty much forced to especially on mid fights. While this isn't always true outside of mid fights some maps such as Granary, Sunshine and Metalworks you pretty much have to use them full time if the other demo is other wise you are hurting your team.
I'm personally not a fan of them but if I need to run them for the sake of my team or I feel I'm not doing anything with pipes I'll use them
I'm personally not a fan of them but if I need to run them for the sake of my team or I feel I'm not doing anything with pipes I'll use them
people trying to make a class that isn't scout weaker
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shorasBooties are still less aids than Quickiebomb.
I'm actually surprised I haven't seen more (top) NA demos use the quickiebomb launcher. Yeah it can make a demo a fragging class when combined with the booties, but in the end it's how your team plays.
Max_I'm personally not a fan of them but if I need to run them for the sake of my team or I feel I'm not doing anything with pipes I'll use them
Maybe one day a team will try and rise to the top with a quickiebomb/booties hyper agro demo and passive pocket soldier or something else, but in the current state of team play, the booties are a nice upside to compliment a team that plays aggressively, giving them a safety net in case things go wrong. But they are not OP. If they get banned next season, people will work around it similarly to when the old loose cannon was banned. But I still think that the verdict stands with the booties not being OP.
[quote=shoras]Booties are still less aids than Quickiebomb.[/quote]
I'm actually surprised I haven't seen more (top) NA demos use the quickiebomb launcher. Yeah it can make a demo a fragging class when combined with the booties, but in the end it's how your team plays.
[quote=Max_]I'm personally not a fan of them but if I need to run them for the sake of my team or I feel I'm not doing anything with pipes I'll use them[/quote]
Maybe one day a team will try and rise to the top with a quickiebomb/booties hyper agro demo and passive pocket soldier or something else, but in the current state of team play, the booties are a nice upside to compliment a team that plays aggressively, giving them a safety net in case things go wrong. But they are not OP. If they get banned next season, people will work around it similarly to when the old loose cannon was banned. But I still think that the verdict stands with the booties not being OP.
I'm actually surprised I haven't seen more (top) NA demos use the quickiebomb launcher. Yeah it can make a demo a fragging class when combined with the booties, but in the end it's how your team plays.
[quote=Max_]I'm personally not a fan of them but if I need to run them for the sake of my team or I feel I'm not doing anything with pipes I'll use them[/quote]
Maybe one day a team will try and rise to the top with a quickiebomb/booties hyper agro demo and passive pocket soldier or something else, but in the current state of team play, the booties are a nice upside to compliment a team that plays aggressively, giving them a safety net in case things go wrong. But they are not OP. If they get banned next season, people will work around it similarly to when the old loose cannon was banned. But I still think that the verdict stands with the booties not being OP.
Scout movespeed has been reduced by 10%
Scattergun now shoots 25% slower
Scout now caps at 1.5 rate
Basher adds -10% explosive resistance
Scout movespeed has been reduced by 10%
Scattergun now shoots 25% slower
Scout now caps at 1.5 rate
Basher adds -10% explosive resistance
Scattergun now shoots 25% slower
Scout now caps at 1.5 rate
Basher adds -10% explosive resistance
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