teamfortresstv is looking for somebody to operate the in-game camera during our DHS & i58 casts.
Davidthewin has been our primary observer for over a year, but for these two LANs we're restructuring how the team works and moving him to a producer role. We are also planning to run these two events live, with no delay, which means that a whole different set of skills are required.
Without the cheat feed (which can pose its own learning curve for new observers), your job would be to use your knowledge of the game to pick the best people to spectate at any given time. By practising online before both of these LANs, you would go into the events feeling confident that you can bring a superb viewing experience to our audience, even without knowing who's gonna hit a phat airshot beforehand.
We'd prefer someone with higher level TF2 experience who understands the game, but if you feel like you have a grasp of the flow of top-level games then we're more than happy to talk to you.
You would be taught the basics (and more) by our current observers, and would have free access to DHS and i58. teamfortresstv is a volunteer organisation though so you shouldn't expect a fat paycheck or travel costs paid etc.
Needless to say, you'd be an integral member of our production team and part of creating something special. Ask any questions below, and send me a DM on here to get in touch!
EDIT: In order to practise online before the LANs (which is 100% a requirement) you'll need to have a PC and internet connection capable of streaming. Rough guide for this is an i5 cpu and upload of around 5mb/s+, but you should test out streaming through OBS beforehand.
[b]teamfortresstv is looking for somebody to operate the in-game camera during our DHS & i58 casts.[/b]
Davidthewin has been our primary observer for over a year, but for these two LANs we're restructuring how the team works and moving him to a producer role. We are also planning to run these two events live, with no delay, which means that a whole different set of skills are required.
Without the cheat feed (which can pose its own learning curve for new observers), your job would be to use your knowledge of the game to pick the best people to spectate at any given time. By practising online before both of these LANs, you would go into the events feeling confident that you can bring a superb viewing experience to our audience, even without knowing who's gonna hit a phat airshot beforehand.
We'd prefer someone with higher level TF2 experience who understands the game, but if you feel like you have a grasp of the flow of top-level games then we're more than happy to talk to you.
You would be taught the basics (and more) by our current observers, and would have free access to DHS and i58. teamfortresstv is a volunteer organisation though so you shouldn't expect a fat paycheck or travel costs paid etc.
Needless to say, you'd be an integral member of our production team and part of creating something special. Ask any questions below, and send me a DM on here to get in touch!
EDIT: In order to practise online before the LANs (which is 100% a requirement) you'll need to have a PC and internet connection capable of streaming. Rough guide for this is an i5 cpu and upload of around 5mb/s+, but you should test out streaming through OBS beforehand.
I feel like it's worth having at least a 10s delay for the cheat feed (if it even works like that) because no matter how good of a camerman it would be really hard to catch the huge moments all the time.
I feel like it's worth having at least a 10s delay for the cheat feed (if it even works like that) because no matter how good of a camerman it would be really hard to catch the huge moments all the time.
So i55 and DHW were casted without the cheat feed? Damn that's impressive :O
So i55 and DHW were casted without the cheat feed? Damn that's impressive :O
This does sound realy interesting to me, especially considering that i watch more TF2 than i play anyways. But i realy dont know if my internet/PC are good enough for this. Though my ability to actually attend LAN is kinda limited by the fact that im 17 but just getting into working as a cameraman for TFTV, even if just online, sounds like something i want to atleast try out
This does sound realy interesting to me, especially considering that i watch more TF2 than i play anyways. But i realy dont know if my internet/PC are good enough for this. Though my ability to actually attend LAN is kinda limited by the fact that im 17 but just getting into working as a cameraman for TFTV, even if just online, sounds like something i want to atleast try out
Why are you moving away from the cheat feed?
Why are you moving away from the cheat feed?
Even a 10s delay for the cheat feed is impossible if the teams are in front of you playing. Any reaction from them when winning, wiping, etc will look ridiculous 10s before the event happens.
I didn't mention the internet and PC specifications, those are now edited in. But if someone is gagging to do camerawork and doesn't meet the requirements, bear in mind that these only apply for the online practise - at lan you'll have a PC and sick internet. You could just do all your practise offline if you're really dedicated, and record locally.
Even a 10s delay for the cheat feed is impossible if the teams are in front of you playing. Any reaction from them when winning, wiping, etc will look ridiculous 10s before the event happens.
I didn't mention the internet and PC specifications, those are now edited in. But if someone is gagging to do camerawork and doesn't meet the requirements, bear in mind that these only apply for the online practise - at lan you'll have a PC and sick internet. You could just do all your practise offline if you're really dedicated, and record locally.
vibhavpSo i55 and DHW were casted without the cheat feed? Damn that's impressive :O
No we had the cheat feed at i55 and DHW but the consensus has been that at future lans we don't use the cheat feed so that we can run the stv live to better use the real life cameras/reactions.
[quote=vibhavp]So i55 and DHW were casted without the cheat feed? Damn that's impressive :O[/quote]
No we had the cheat feed at i55 and DHW but the consensus has been that at future lans we don't use the cheat feed so that we can run the stv live to better use the real life cameras/reactions.
nvm didnt see sideshow's edit
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Take Twiggy: He has superb TF2 knowledge, he only plays mid because he's stuck with the same retarded team since forever.
Source: I'm one of said retards.
Take Twiggy: He has superb TF2 knowledge, he only plays mid because he's stuck with the same retarded team since forever.
Source: I'm one of said retards.
Personally I think i55 camerawork was mostly fine and the cheat feed worked to our advantage, the number of sick plays and shots caught by it was really amazing and as a video editor it really helps a lot to have it happen on stream as it's much easier to annotate and save highlights for future recordings.
Im not sure why really the decision for moving away from it since as I said I think the camerawork was fine, probably the only downside I can see from it is that it kinda kills the element of surprise where if you were using it and move into a different player pov we are always expecting some play to happen and it tones down a bit of the excitement but other than that I think its very useful.
Personally I think i55 camerawork was mostly fine and the cheat feed worked to our advantage, the number of sick plays and shots caught by it was really amazing and as a video editor it really helps a lot to have it happen on stream as it's much easier to annotate and save highlights for future recordings.
Im not sure why really the decision for moving away from it since as I said I think the camerawork was fine, probably the only downside I can see from it is that it kinda kills the element of surprise where if you were using it and move into a different player pov we are always expecting some play to happen and it tones down a bit of the excitement but other than that I think its very useful.
KanecoPersonally I think i55 camerawork was mostly fine and the cheat feed worked to our advantage, the number of sick plays and shots caught by it was really amazing and as a video editor it really helps a lot to have it happen on stream as it's much easier to annotate and save highlights for future recordings.
Im not sure why really the decision for moving away from it since as I said I think the camerawork was fine, probably the only downside I can see from it is that it kinda kills the element of surprise where if you were using it and move into a different player pov we are always expecting some play to happen and it tones down a bit of the excitement but other than that I think its very useful.
The idea is to be able to show more of the LAN experience. There was so much extra footage that we couldn't show because of issues with the delays between the camera taking the footage and syncing it with the end of the stv. Syncing a bunch of venue cameras with different delays and the extra latencies of transferring that to the production PC is very complicated and has caused us problems in the past. It also simplifies a lot of other things such as STV pauses and interviews where the players aren't hanging around for 90 seconds after the game or even going missing altogether and hearing spoilers from players cheering 90 seconds before the game ends etc. These problems don't go away until you remove all delay. I could work the cheat feed with as low as a 5 second delay if necessary but even with 5 seconds you need all this extra work to delay everything 5 seconds.
Basically the only real advantage of the STV delay is the cheat feed (aside from things like ghosting which shouldn't be an issue on LAN) and it comes with a whole load of technical difficulties that just disappear if we run it live.
[quote=Kaneco]Personally I think i55 camerawork was mostly fine and the cheat feed worked to our advantage, the number of sick plays and shots caught by it was really amazing and as a video editor it really helps a lot to have it happen on stream as it's much easier to annotate and save highlights for future recordings.
Im not sure why really the decision for moving away from it since as I said I think the camerawork was fine, probably the only downside I can see from it is that it kinda kills the element of surprise where if you were using it and move into a different player pov we are always expecting some play to happen and it tones down a bit of the excitement but other than that I think its very useful.[/quote]
The idea is to be able to show more of the LAN experience. There was so much extra footage that we couldn't show because of issues with the delays between the camera taking the footage and syncing it with the end of the stv. Syncing a bunch of venue cameras with different delays and the extra latencies of transferring that to the production PC is very complicated and has caused us problems in the past. It also simplifies a lot of other things such as STV pauses and interviews where the players aren't hanging around for 90 seconds after the game or even going missing altogether and hearing spoilers from players cheering 90 seconds before the game ends etc. These problems don't go away until you remove all delay. I could work the cheat feed with as low as a 5 second delay if necessary but even with 5 seconds you need all this extra work to delay everything 5 seconds.
Basically the only real advantage of the STV delay is the cheat feed (aside from things like ghosting which shouldn't be an issue on LAN) and it comes with a whole load of technical difficulties that just disappear if we run it live.
Trust us: there have been long discussions over how to best produce LANs.
I really encourage people to consider doing this. Production at i55 was a great experience for me. If anyone has any questions about observing I'm willing to answer, just add me on steam or something. There are certainly people better qualified to answer your questions about DH/i58 and observing in general, but I happen to have a quite a bit of free time right now.
Trust us: there have been [i]long[/i] discussions over how to best produce LANs.
I really encourage people to consider doing this. Production at i55 was a great experience for me. If anyone has any questions about observing I'm willing to answer, just add me on steam or something. There are certainly people better qualified to answer your questions about DH/i58 and observing in general, but I happen to have a quite a bit of free time right now.
Quite apart from dreamhack/i58 if you want to do camerawork for tftv online but can't go to a lan we're always looking for new online streamers
Quite apart from dreamhack/i58 if you want to do camerawork for tftv online but can't go to a lan we're always looking for new online streamers