anyone who tells someone they don't know to kill themselves is probably some edgy teenager who watches meme videos on youtube

oh woops its not an opinion wrong thread

imo

Gunboats make Scout look way more overpowered than it really is when it's really Soldier's hitscan level that dropped immensely.

The rise in use of burst heal doomed everything medic class was, leading to an unbelievable pool of subpar medic spamming arrows thinking they're Robin Hood.

While pocket and aggro Scouts is definitively a thing, being unable to swap role on the fly is the big gap between a good Scout pair and a very good one.

i havent played this game in a year but gj trying to find a way to tell me im wrong that doesnt actually involve thinking about what I said ;)

yo this thread is funky asf

I mean people already addressed why your an idiot I don't see a point in repeating what others have said

You try playing soldier on 250 ping then.

My team did not get into invite because of circlejerking. Aim did not get on my team in IM because of circlejerks. I barely even knew who he was at the time. Arekk + connor + me played together for a while and we eventually got to invite.

After thinking about it I think a better thing to say would be "it's easier to get into higher divs if you know people." but it def aint hard or anything. Just a willingness to improve.

I joined el classico last season with at least half the team hating me before I joined, but they still picked me up cuz im not a big nooby

half way there!

Chargin' Targe demo is viable on product

*you're

and its not my fault people can't accept that sometimes things other than pure hard work and training is the reason they succeed :)

it's*

allow picking up dropped mediguns

eee is NA sheepy dont do this you only make his power grow stronger

u forgot the part where i didnt use any punctuation or capitalization

like it must be tough going through life with brain damage

I'm pretty sure u had an apostrophe in "can't" there my mate

sorry 4 using my phone to talk to internet virgins on the video game forum :(

i'll proofread my shitposts in advance to make sure the mistakes are consistent

did you just correct someones post and then make a big deal when they corrected you

i'm assuming you'd only call others internet virgins if you aren't one yourself, so if you're not a virgin, you must be able to interact with people, which you claim to be one of the biggest factors in succeeding in tf2, so what stopped you from getting to the top?

oh thats right.

i dont want to spend time playing a game i dont find fun? Not everyone is playing tf2 to improve or be the best. I played open for a while and realized the effort to improve was too much for me :(

idk how this chain went from me being upvoted and having invite players say the same thing as me and then me being downvoted :(

Not really. I agree with alfa and Nursey from earlier. At least from my experience a year ago, playing at an Invite level is overrated and if it wasn't circlejerks that helped players get into Invite it was from being on Open and IM teams that didn't keep dying or splitting up every season. I can name tons of people I've played with on teams that made it to Invite relatively fast, but unless they were decent at demo or pocket they never got individual recognition for their up and coming talent unless the team they were on was already good.

Don't say that's bullshit because outside of Invite pretty much every team leader never builds a team dedicated to actually improving and making Invite instead of getting their friends or hosting half-assed tryouts before dying at the end of the season and staying in IM forever. I've seen better captain picks in pug.me/pugchamp than the rosters people come up with in ESEA lol. There were definitely players at the top of Open or in high IM there for way longer than they should've been because they could have easily adjusted to Invite with a season or two of experience given the chance.

This thread is in a downward spiral

I agree with what nursey said too, because that's what I said. There are so many players I can list who fit under "not in a circle jerk who made it to invite." There are also tons of players who were recognized for their individual skill who were not on consistent or good teams (that also didn't play pocket/demo) such as slemnish and phorofor.

Connor is a noob and Nursey is a bigger noob

ded

being able to name players "who fit under "not in a circle jerk who made it to invite." " doesn't mean being in a circlejerk isn't an advantage, it just means that getting better at the game is a good way to get into invite. It doesn't really defeat the point that a fair portion of people get into invite based on friendships nor does it dispel the idea that being in a circlejerk is a good way to improve at tf2

You're trying to fight anecdotes with more anecdotes.

saying you have to be in a circlejerk to get places is like saying theirs an elo hell. It's like ya it certainly helps but like if your good and you stick with it long enough it doesn't really matter

Can't believe we let eee change this thread into 'his opinion' thread

lol you're slowly arguing away from your root point, which was that circle jerks are the prime way to get to invite.

edit: exactly what connor said

THEY ARENT CASE CLOSED

ANYONE WHO KEEPS IT UP IS A SPERG