esports legally recognized before gay people, gj russia

Something something cyka blyat

now russians can get athlete visas, your turn to come back shadowburn

those who follow dota 2 scene probably know v1lat, the ukrainian caster. he actually had a good point that explains why it was done: coz esport as a thing grows and involves more and more production value, sponsorship and therefore lots of cash. he had posted some stories about people offering him basic money laundering through certain events, and knowing that the corruption in russia is basically everywhere and on every level, with more cash involved into esport, organizing events and team sponsorship there're much more people that want a piece of that moolah

and if you still think sdb and co gonna use the cash they won on going to lan please wake up they basically gopniked the community; its not gonna happen

edit: mfw theres a post above me with 68 upfrags and another below with 23 downfrags and this one has literally 0 anything yet this is the one that relates to the topic more than both aforementioned

Because you don't contribute to anything by being gay.

Inb4 accused of homophobia.

Gay people that have hugely contributed to society: Alan Turing, John Maynard Keynes, Elton John, Billie Jean King...
eSport players that have hugely contributed to society:

You don't get the idea. They haven't contributed to society because they were gay...

ok i love games and shit but what has esports actually contributed to society besides entertainment i guess

porn is a multibillion dollar industry......

How does one contribute to the community solely by being either straight or gay?

You are just negating your own argument. By your logic straight people should not be recognized as they do not contribute to society.

well you see when you win international events and bring money back to russia to spend then russia is very happy. In teamfortress 2 you travel for a "esport" event and lose money, in dota 2 and othergames you can win money so russia wants to allow others to represent russia and make money win win situation.

My argument is that your sexual orientation doesn't affect your abilty to contribute to the society. That's what it been the whole time.

they can't contribute to society at all after they get lynched for sucking cock

Do you have any idea what you're talking about?

As a gay person, I have to agree with shoras though. Merit does not come out of whatever your identify or what your sexual preference is, it's your actions as a person.

What was supposed to be an epic win for eSports turned into an argument about whether or not gay people contributed to the society.

First time on TF.TV forums, I'm not disappointed.

Who you are is irrelevant to your opinions/arguments

:c

it is not about what they contribute, instead people should have the liberty to fuck whichever gender they want

then why is everyone piling up to attack shoras becuase he is telling the truth? Oh wait, it's because he's Russian, and people are indoctrinated to hate anyone from that country.

No one gets arrested in Russia for being gay. One thing that isn't allowed is gay marriage. I don't know what kind of source of information you're using, but it's definitely not reliable. One of my foreign mates once sent me a video of people hunting down gay people in Russia (according to the title). However, it's not about gay people, it's about pedophiles. Those guys are quite well-known in Russia and I do now for sure they aren't hunting gay people. No need to use false information or some stereotypical shit as an argument.
Everyone here seeing homophobia in my message. Then why the guy who admitted to be gay actually agrees with me?

stop

people get arrested for enforcing "gay propaganda" im sorry your country is really shitty dude but you're beyond wrong in whatever point you're trying to make

edit before you say something stupid about my comment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_LGBT_propaganda_law

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Are they not ostracized in your society?

Just fuck off go discuss some other place its not like everyone wants to read 20 pointless replies hoping to find something related to the thread

The propaganda ban came after various backed US-sponsered groups are trying to rile up tensions between Russia (which just like eastern europe is socially conservative) and western europe/USA and then cry to the world how awful Russia is, Imagine someone sending 10 000 books of mein campf to random people in Israel, which could cause legal problems to them and solves nothing (and this is the fkh8 colouring book campaign before the Sochi olympics). and then claim it's only in the name of "freedom"

http://stopfckh8.tumblr.com/post/67388296293/stonertaire-so-i-am-a-queer-russian-yes-hello-i

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/putin-homosexual-groups-should-leave-kids-alone

and I agree, in youth children go through different phases, and sexual orientation is a private matter, and you need some maturity and life experience, so you can decide for yourself that the choices you make in love are your own and true. how many kids aren't there growing up now, who think they are gay or transexual, becuase it's so trendy to be so there is this weird kind of peer pressure, and then years later you get to read these really sad stories of de transistioned people or even worse, suicides?

please fucking stop jesus christ