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miwoTF2 players as a collective bloc need to push for no limits on weapons right now.
at the very least we need to lax our whitelisting as a ton of (almost) completely useless weapons are banned such as the neon annihilator, or post nerf persian persuader
http://whitelist.tf/6026
even a whitelist like this for esea would be a good start as it still bans most direct upgrades/bullshit weapons but also allows a ton more weapons which were banned for no reason or have been nerfed (like the enforcer blows now)
[quote=miwo]TF2 players as a collective bloc need to push for no limits on weapons right now.[/quote]
at the very least we need to lax our whitelisting as a ton of (almost) completely useless weapons are banned such as the neon annihilator, or post nerf persian persuader
http://whitelist.tf/6026
even a whitelist like this for esea would be a good start as it still bans most direct upgrades/bullshit weapons but also allows a ton more weapons which were banned for no reason or have been nerfed (like the enforcer blows now)
at the very least we need to lax our whitelisting as a ton of (almost) completely useless weapons are banned such as the neon annihilator, or post nerf persian persuader
http://whitelist.tf/6026
even a whitelist like this for esea would be a good start as it still bans most direct upgrades/bullshit weapons but also allows a ton more weapons which were banned for no reason or have been nerfed (like the enforcer blows now)
Something that I feel people don't talk about enough is the spectator experience of TF2.
It was exciting to see huge viewership on the TFTV stream when the main menu stream list was first put in place, but the increase was incredibly short lived, and soon dropped from four digit numbers to where we are now--struggling to break 500 viewers for incredibly hyped matches in invite.
My personal opinion is that spectating TF2 is a pretty poor experience.
This is entirely in spite of the wonderful job the casters and production do (shoutout to truktruk, BUICK, yimi, marblr, and everyone else recently spending a lot of time to greatly improving the competitive TF2 viewing experience!).
If Valve is listening and trying to actively improve TF2 based off the competitive community (RE: demo viewing fixes, weapon balancing, replacing prec, etc.), now would probably be a great time to discuss how competitive spectating could be improved.
For example, I think that seeing damage numbers or even hearing some subtle hitsound (created to fit as a sound effect, just as the headshot sound in CS fits the action) would go a long way towards getting a sense of what they player you're watching is actually doing. If I'm not mistaken, that's not currently possible in an STV, but if Valve were convinced it would greatly benefit TF2 I'm sure they would consider implementing something like that.
Something that I feel people don't talk about enough is the spectator experience of TF2.
It was exciting to see huge viewership on the TFTV stream when the main menu stream list was first put in place, but the increase was incredibly short lived, and soon dropped from four digit numbers to where we are now--struggling to break 500 viewers for incredibly hyped matches in invite.
My personal opinion is that spectating TF2 is a pretty poor experience.
This is entirely in spite of the wonderful job the casters and production do (shoutout to truktruk, BUICK, yimi, marblr, and everyone else recently spending a lot of time to greatly improving the competitive TF2 viewing experience!).
If Valve is listening and trying to actively improve TF2 based off the competitive community (RE: demo viewing fixes, weapon balancing, replacing prec, etc.), now would probably be a great time to discuss how competitive spectating could be improved.
For example, I think that seeing damage numbers or even hearing some subtle hitsound (created to fit as a sound effect, just as the headshot sound in CS fits the action) would go a long way towards getting a sense of what they player you're watching is actually doing. If I'm not mistaken, that's not currently possible in an STV, but if Valve were convinced it would greatly benefit TF2 I'm sure they would consider implementing something like that.
It was exciting to see huge viewership on the TFTV stream when the main menu stream list was first put in place, but the increase was incredibly short lived, and soon dropped from four digit numbers to where we are now--struggling to break 500 viewers for incredibly hyped matches in invite.
My personal opinion is that spectating TF2 is a pretty poor experience.
This is entirely in spite of the wonderful job the casters and production do (shoutout to truktruk, BUICK, yimi, marblr, and everyone else recently spending a lot of time to greatly improving the competitive TF2 viewing experience!).
If Valve is listening and trying to actively improve TF2 based off the competitive community (RE: demo viewing fixes, weapon balancing, replacing prec, etc.), now would probably be a great time to discuss how competitive spectating could be improved.
For example, I think that seeing damage numbers or even hearing some subtle hitsound (created to fit as a sound effect, just as the headshot sound in CS fits the action) would go a long way towards getting a sense of what they player you're watching is actually doing. If I'm not mistaken, that's not currently possible in an STV, but if Valve were convinced it would greatly benefit TF2 I'm sure they would consider implementing something like that.
k0ngzyconsumonnk0ngzyTheres a big difference between viewmodels and making the game not look like tf2. If valve allows literally everything to be changed, shit like transparent wall textures and spiked models will probably be common as hell.MikeMattoads_tfi also heard murmurs of transparent viewmodels, that seems like an alright compromise. As much as a love r_drawviewmodel 0, it is important that the game is understandable and visually appealing to the outisder.Why though? Is it really so important to make the game appealing to viewers that we're willing to downgrade the experience for the players? I'm not sure I'm willing to give up no viewmodels just so b4nnys viewers can understand whats going on.
A pointless rant
? You realize things like SV_pure are in the game right? I can't believe I expected more intelligence out of tf.tv than reddit.
Sv_pure can force textures, giving people options to change the already allowed textures would not magically let people replace texture files with transparent wall textures. It seems as though you have no idea how people even did transparent texture edits. You have to completely change the local files, and this would not get through valve's Sv_pure.
People dont put in commands to make their game transparent, cause that would be cause they are using an sv_cheat they replace files. Next dumbass in line please try me.
EDIT: Changing the way a texture looks, doesn't change what the the actual texture is. (that should be a litlte more easy to understand)
I just realized you're this guy
LMFAOif they are forcing viewmodels, do you think they are going to let you change specular and phong??? Bro i've been through all of this with CSGO, everyone was fighting for these things 4 years ago in beta, like commands to improve the game and fighting for 128 tic matchmaking.
The only difference with the TF2 community is that it's filled with furries, virgins and neckbeards who can't actually stand up for a single mechanic that is preferred.
All of you are disgusting. Have some pride.
Do you find pride in coming onto threads and then whining like a bitch about matchmaking and the tf2 community?
[quote=k0ngzy][quote=consumonn][quote=k0ngzy][quote=MikeMat][quote=toads_tf]i also heard murmurs of transparent viewmodels, that seems like an alright compromise. As much as a love r_drawviewmodel 0, it is important that the game is understandable and visually appealing to the outisder.[/quote]
Why though? Is it really so important to make the game appealing to viewers that we're willing to downgrade the experience for the players? I'm not sure I'm willing to give up no viewmodels just so b4nnys viewers can understand whats going on.[/quote]
A pointless rant[/quote]
Theres a big difference between viewmodels and making the game not look like tf2. If valve allows literally everything to be changed, shit like transparent wall textures and spiked models will probably be common as hell.[/quote]
? You realize things like SV_pure are in the game right? I can't believe I expected more intelligence out of tf.tv than reddit.
Sv_pure can force textures, giving people options to change the already allowed textures would not magically let people replace texture files with transparent wall textures. It seems as though you have no idea how people even did transparent texture edits. You have to completely change the local files, and this would not get through valve's Sv_pure.
People dont put in commands to make their game transparent, cause that would be cause they are using an sv_cheat they replace files. Next dumbass in line please try me.
EDIT: Changing the way a texture looks, doesn't change what the the actual texture is. (that should be a litlte more easy to understand)[/quote]
I just realized you're this guy
[quote] LMFAOif they are forcing viewmodels, do you think they are going to let you change specular and phong??? Bro i've been through all of this with CSGO, everyone was fighting for these things 4 years ago in beta, like commands to improve the game and fighting for 128 tic matchmaking.
The only difference with the TF2 community is that it's filled with furries, virgins and neckbeards who can't actually stand up for a single mechanic that is preferred.
All of you are disgusting. Have some pride. [/quote]
Do you find pride in coming onto threads and then whining like a bitch about matchmaking and the tf2 community?
Why though? Is it really so important to make the game appealing to viewers that we're willing to downgrade the experience for the players? I'm not sure I'm willing to give up no viewmodels just so b4nnys viewers can understand whats going on.[/quote]
A pointless rant[/quote]
Theres a big difference between viewmodels and making the game not look like tf2. If valve allows literally everything to be changed, shit like transparent wall textures and spiked models will probably be common as hell.[/quote]
? You realize things like SV_pure are in the game right? I can't believe I expected more intelligence out of tf.tv than reddit.
Sv_pure can force textures, giving people options to change the already allowed textures would not magically let people replace texture files with transparent wall textures. It seems as though you have no idea how people even did transparent texture edits. You have to completely change the local files, and this would not get through valve's Sv_pure.
People dont put in commands to make their game transparent, cause that would be cause they are using an sv_cheat they replace files. Next dumbass in line please try me.
EDIT: Changing the way a texture looks, doesn't change what the the actual texture is. (that should be a litlte more easy to understand)[/quote]
I just realized you're this guy
[quote] LMFAOif they are forcing viewmodels, do you think they are going to let you change specular and phong??? Bro i've been through all of this with CSGO, everyone was fighting for these things 4 years ago in beta, like commands to improve the game and fighting for 128 tic matchmaking.
The only difference with the TF2 community is that it's filled with furries, virgins and neckbeards who can't actually stand up for a single mechanic that is preferred.
All of you are disgusting. Have some pride. [/quote]
Do you find pride in coming onto threads and then whining like a bitch about matchmaking and the tf2 community?
whatever just let the dude continue to complain on reddit to try to assert his superior brain power
my names k0ngzy *cant articulate my thoughts without acting like an unlikeable dickhead as soon as someone disagrees with me*
whatever just let the dude continue to complain on reddit to try to assert his superior brain power
my names k0ngzy *cant articulate my thoughts without acting like an unlikeable dickhead as soon as someone disagrees with me*
my names k0ngzy *cant articulate my thoughts without acting like an unlikeable dickhead as soon as someone disagrees with me*
all valve needs to do to increase viewer count on streamed matches is add those boxes that randomly drop with rare loot when you watch a game in csgo
all valve needs to do to increase viewer count on streamed matches is add those boxes that randomly drop with rare loot when you watch a game in csgo
adyskyall valve needs to do to increase viewer count on streamed matches is add those boxes that randomly drop with rare loot when you watch a game in csgo
Knowing the tf2 team, they'd make you buy a key to open them
[quote=adysky]all valve needs to do to increase viewer count on streamed matches is add those boxes that randomly drop with rare loot when you watch a game in csgo[/quote]
Knowing the tf2 team, they'd make you buy a key to open them
Knowing the tf2 team, they'd make you buy a key to open them
k0ngzyconsumonnk0ngzyTheres a big difference between viewmodels and making the game not look like tf2. If valve allows literally everything to be changed, shit like transparent wall textures and spiked models will probably be common as hell.MikeMattoads_tfi also heard murmurs of transparent viewmodels, that seems like an alright compromise. As much as a love r_drawviewmodel 0, it is important that the game is understandable and visually appealing to the outisder.Why though? Is it really so important to make the game appealing to viewers that we're willing to downgrade the experience for the players? I'm not sure I'm willing to give up no viewmodels just so b4nnys viewers can understand whats going on.
A pointless rant
? You realize things like SV_pure are in the game right? I can't believe I expected more intelligence out of tf.tv than reddit.
Sv_pure can force textures, giving people options to change the already allowed textures would not magically let people replace texture files with transparent wall textures. It seems as though you have no idea how people even did transparent texture edits. You have to completely change the local files, and this would not get through valve's Sv_pure.
People dont put in commands to make their game transparent, cause that would be cause they are using an sv_cheat they replace files. Next dumbass in line please try me.
EDIT: Changing the way a texture looks, doesn't change what the the actual texture is. (that should be a litlte more easy to understand)
I hope you're just some magnificent troll and not actually this fucking stupid.
[quote=k0ngzy][quote=consumonn][quote=k0ngzy][quote=MikeMat][quote=toads_tf]i also heard murmurs of transparent viewmodels, that seems like an alright compromise. As much as a love r_drawviewmodel 0, it is important that the game is understandable and visually appealing to the outisder.[/quote]
Why though? Is it really so important to make the game appealing to viewers that we're willing to downgrade the experience for the players? I'm not sure I'm willing to give up no viewmodels just so b4nnys viewers can understand whats going on.[/quote]
A pointless rant[/quote]
Theres a big difference between viewmodels and making the game not look like tf2. If valve allows literally everything to be changed, shit like transparent wall textures and spiked models will probably be common as hell.[/quote]
? You realize things like SV_pure are in the game right? I can't believe I expected more intelligence out of tf.tv than reddit.
Sv_pure can force textures, giving people options to change the already allowed textures would not magically let people replace texture files with transparent wall textures. It seems as though you have no idea how people even did transparent texture edits. You have to completely change the local files, and this would not get through valve's Sv_pure.
People dont put in commands to make their game transparent, cause that would be cause they are using an sv_cheat they replace files. Next dumbass in line please try me.
EDIT: Changing the way a texture looks, doesn't change what the the actual texture is. (that should be a litlte more easy to understand)[/quote]
I hope you're just some magnificent troll and not actually this fucking stupid.
Why though? Is it really so important to make the game appealing to viewers that we're willing to downgrade the experience for the players? I'm not sure I'm willing to give up no viewmodels just so b4nnys viewers can understand whats going on.[/quote]
A pointless rant[/quote]
Theres a big difference between viewmodels and making the game not look like tf2. If valve allows literally everything to be changed, shit like transparent wall textures and spiked models will probably be common as hell.[/quote]
? You realize things like SV_pure are in the game right? I can't believe I expected more intelligence out of tf.tv than reddit.
Sv_pure can force textures, giving people options to change the already allowed textures would not magically let people replace texture files with transparent wall textures. It seems as though you have no idea how people even did transparent texture edits. You have to completely change the local files, and this would not get through valve's Sv_pure.
People dont put in commands to make their game transparent, cause that would be cause they are using an sv_cheat they replace files. Next dumbass in line please try me.
EDIT: Changing the way a texture looks, doesn't change what the the actual texture is. (that should be a litlte more easy to understand)[/quote]
I hope you're just some magnificent troll and not actually this fucking stupid.
adyskyall valve needs to do to increase viewer count on streamed matches is add those boxes that randomly drop with rare loot when you watch a game in csgo
While I understand that would increase viewer count, it wouldn't solve the problem that post #65 brings up. I agree with him but I don't think I can come up with an easy solution. This is definitely something that needs to be discussed moving forward.
My first thoughts would be an automated camera for delayed STV. It would allow for the camera/streamer to focus on more production related things, while allowing casters to have another resource for play by play commentary. However, this would only be useful for online matches and not the most viewed games which are on LAN.
Beyond that, I'm not sure what could/should be added to improve the viewing experience.
[quote=adysky]all valve needs to do to increase viewer count on streamed matches is add those boxes that randomly drop with rare loot when you watch a game in csgo[/quote]
While I understand that would increase viewer count, it wouldn't solve the problem that post #65 brings up. I agree with him but I don't think I can come up with an easy solution. This is definitely something that needs to be discussed moving forward.
My first thoughts would be an automated camera for delayed STV. It would allow for the camera/streamer to focus on more production related things, while allowing casters to have another resource for play by play commentary. However, this would only be useful for online matches and not the most viewed games which are on LAN.
Beyond that, I'm not sure what could/should be added to improve the viewing experience.
While I understand that would increase viewer count, it wouldn't solve the problem that post #65 brings up. I agree with him but I don't think I can come up with an easy solution. This is definitely something that needs to be discussed moving forward.
My first thoughts would be an automated camera for delayed STV. It would allow for the camera/streamer to focus on more production related things, while allowing casters to have another resource for play by play commentary. However, this would only be useful for online matches and not the most viewed games which are on LAN.
Beyond that, I'm not sure what could/should be added to improve the viewing experience.
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