atomizer unbanned is a disaster

ok jesus what the fuck thats fucking retarded

cow mangler should stay banned because it's just a stock rocket launcher with infinite ammo now, it's only downside is you can't kritz it and it does fuck all to buildings, both of which you would leave to a demo anyways

battalion's backup is pretty dumb because of how much damage it reduces and nullifies, and the fact that it increased soldier's base health

natasha/tomislav are just really broken weapons, one slows you to a crawl if 1 bullet hits you, the other is basically a shittier version of a lg

rescue ranger, oh boy now engineers can keep their sentries alive even longer, allowing for last stalemates to be even worse

jarate/bushwacka https://youtu.be/SctEKhiX5J8?t=5m27s

People actually think the atomizer is OP when the winger is allowed and nobody will use it over basher anyway, like year sure triple jumps but I can absolutely assure you that it won't be a problem

ur actually retarded

really strong for spamming chokes especially with the charge up

Not entirely sure about this or a few other weapons, but I'm not the one calling the shots. I guess scouts are now going to be a little easier to hit for demos

Also I wonder if some teams are going to experiment with different class compositions for different situations now that things like the gunslinger are allowed. Maybe a rise in a dedicated off classer in the future?

ROBTHEAWSM was right

loch n load / quickie actually makes demo not a bad class now which is nice

imagine scout with a jetpack thats the atomizer and u cant beat that

downside: lose 10hp
upside: consistently dodge up to 100 damage whenever used
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

basher hasnt been required since the escape plan change

Allowing some of this shit is so stupid

no not the bonus duck D:

These changes should be interesting. I'm excited to see what happens/how fast some things are banned.

cool stuff , but do u really consider the atomizer balanced abd the solemen vow broken ? pretty questionable imo.

the atomizer being unbanned actually makes me not want to play this game

you forgot that the bat swings 30% slower and does 20% less melee damage. so i think thats a fair trade.

ha..ha..hA....

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time to go permaheavy/engi and gay people with mini sentries and lightning gun
also it'd be nice to know who exactly decided these should be unbanned

i want to support this so badly but i cannot get behind an unbanned atomizer or rescue ranger

How long will it be until people find these op spots that can only be done with winger + atomizer jumps. I bet you aggro scouts will have triple jumps while the pocket scout has the Boston brasher to build with.

The atomizer is extremely overpowered, who actively decided that it's okay? Have they just not seen a good scout use it?

I get that we only see it in Highlander, but sixes is not the place where you want Winger + Atomizer jumping.

every scout will use the atomizer because not dying to soldiers is pretty good

As much as some of the unlocks aren't going to have too disastrous a change at the top level (although atomizer and jarate and rescue ranger????) its going to make anybody playing at a lower level die of cancer with some of these no brain weapons.

rip soldiers

you need a vote for a massive change like this ...

but why so close to the season

why is the holiday punch unbanned

why is the jarate unbanned

why is the diamondback unbanned

why is the sandvich unbanned

why is the beggars unbanned

why is the atomizer unbanned

why is the natascha unbanned

what is this whitelist even

Why do you guys think that it's your job to provide information to Valve about these weapons? This is mainly towards ETF2L because that's the league I play in, but why are you choosing to fuck over the players who are currently playing in this season which you've basically named a "garbage season" before it's even started.with your dumb ass decisions. Fuck sake, ETF2L & ESEA don't even run the same ruleset, maybe you should work that out first.

Atleast talk to your players before making such a huge fucking change.

-Atomizer will be run by every flank scout, combo scout will still be forced onto boston basher because of arrow-building and generally it's just more effective to have a scout build over a soldier.
-Cow Mangler is literally broken, the rockets are nearly impossible to see, plus you can barely fucking tell what the radius on the splash will be, "- because of the rockets being nearly impossible to see", it's a direct upgrade to the stock rocket launcher, and it takes ammo out of the game for soldiers which is also super fucking questionable. On top of that let's just fucking spectate a cartoon shooter with soldiers running around shooting lasers.
-Rescue Ranger makes no fucking sense
-Loch & Load is probably not worth running so I'm actually okay with that.
-Jarate is a direct upgrade to the sniper, it just boosts your team dpm, and if you ever end up in a situation where you need to use the smg you've fucked up anyway.

No point going through all of the weapons since it doesn't fucking matter because it seems like the majority of people who were involved in this disaster are probably not gonna do anything about it anyway. But atleast be consistant with your bullshit, why do you ban the Sydney Sleeper but allow the Jarate? THEY DO THE SAME THING.

diamondback what the cringe

Solemn Vow being banned is going to absolutely cripple Medic.

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