mangler

rescue ranger engineer repairing sentry from spawn

i think minis will definitely see use

cow mangler secondary disables all abilities of rescue ranger

W R A N G L E R

i think gunboats are pretty good i like that item

Scatterguns are pretty cool man

loch

mangler/stock were basically the same although mangler is slightly better now that rr is allowed
bazooka will probably see use from roamers who can actually jump with the damn thing, syncing rockets on people's heads is pretty powerful

eviction notice + sandvich heavy is going to be pretty good too

I really don't like the LnL. A lot less spam for hitting a few extra pipes over a game. You lose a whole pipe, rollers, and the arc angle is really awkward for spamming most of the time.

It's a lot like the quickie launcher but to a lesser extent, helps you in 1v1's, but lowers the amount of spam you can put out. I'd rather just trust my team to keep me protected, so I can put out that extra damage when needed ie. demoman's job.

I doubt the majority of people will uses it after a few weeks, except for teams where the demo is in a more aggressive role.

loch n load is actually going to fucking destroy viaduct week

if anyone could use the backscatter well it would prolly be really fucking good

those meatshots in the back do so much fucking damage man.

Most viable strat is suicide, cos then you don't have to play this shit game anymore

LUL

Get triggered TFTV nerds.

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hah these people don't agree with my stupid post they must be TRIGGERED xD

starks new primary

didnt u peak at playing on a highlander team with stabby stabby

It will effect scouts most, cause of gunslinger, heavy and other engie stuff.

Which I guess is good because it is slightly nerfing scout. I think if it goes through as is demo will become king in the meta again, because of how easily he can deal with these unlocks.

I think cowmangler and gunslinger will be used a lot. Also wrangler.

if ur baiting 5 other players to do less overall dps then ur playing scout wrong

i dont think (other than maybe shortstop) the unlocks will be used since they hurt the role and give you less shots to chip shot and deny
once again except for shortstop whihc just shits out damage over a medium range

Quickiebomb Launcher
Rescue Ranger
Loch n Load
Sandvich
Half-Zatoichi
Cow Mangler
Natascha
Tomislav
Eviction Notice
Beggar's Bazooka
are the new viable weapons

Of these
Natascha (muh movement mechanics)
Loch n Load (easy bake pipe launcher)
Rescue Ranger (snakewater last is turtlely enough as is)
Beggar's Bazooka (stupid skilless cheese kills)
should probably be banned.

Anything i missed is probably not even worth mentioning.

Consider the following:

https://my.mixtape.moe/uwhnit.PNG

It's not really gamebreaking but it gives the scout a free flaregun with no real downsides compared to stock melee.

You can build uber with a demo or soldier running half zatoichi instead of the basher.

Very creative

You can't with the zatoichi on demo. It has the slow draw speed because it's considered a sword and it's only 50 damage when putting it away, much more effective to just shoot your self with a sticky if you want a demo to build

i think natasha sandwich and jarate will make heavy/sniper to mid better, so u might see that more

But then you can use Gunslinger to piss of Cow Mangler Soldiers, who wouldn't be able to take a down a mini easily.
TF2's turning into "use X to counter Y", just like Overwatch?

Also

I used it for a while as a flank Scout, quite effective assuming I never really had to build Uber. I had fun, but my enemies probably didn't.

Loch n' Load is probably gonna be the meta so gunslinger is no problem ever.

Speaking as a demo main, Loch n' Load really gives no upsides at all. It has worse damage output and there's the constant fear of running out of pipes. And if you've learned how to aim with regular pipes, the upside will do nothing except possibly hinder you.

iron bomber

The extra speed makes pipes easier to hit at close, medium and long range; hitting more pipes is always good. And because of how projectiles work Loch pipes travel even farther than normal, rollers are also overrated and not as good as people think they are

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