can you be in the air with the base jumper while charging a cow mangler shot or does it only work on the ground
i wanna spirit bomb people
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can you be in the air with the base jumper while charging a cow mangler shot or does it only work on the ground
i wanna spirit bomb people
i wanna spirit bomb people
i'm not sure, but base jumper is banned. sorry bud
i'm not sure, but base jumper is banned. sorry bud
downpourcan you be in the air with the base jumper while charging a cow mangler shot or does it only work on the ground
i wanna spirit bomb people
You can, parachute's on +jump and charge is on secondary fire.
It's banned now though, so yeah
[quote=downpour]can you be in the air with the base jumper while charging a cow mangler shot or does it only work on the ground
i wanna spirit bomb people[/quote]
You can, parachute's on +jump and charge is on secondary fire.
It's banned now though, so yeah
i wanna spirit bomb people[/quote]
You can, parachute's on +jump and charge is on secondary fire.
It's banned now though, so yeah
What was the problem with BASE Jumper? Was it that good?
What was the problem with BASE Jumper? Was it that good?
TwiggyWhat was the problem with BASE Jumper? Was it that good?
no its just retarded
[quote=Twiggy]What was the problem with BASE Jumper? Was it that good?[/quote]
no its just retarded
no its just retarded
It is funny that the scout has 7/22 items banned and is the most powerful class in 6's.
Pyro has one item banned and will still never be run.
About the mangler, it should be banned because of unlimited ammo, which actually buffs the demo, cause now he can take all the ammo packs. It is also easily spammable for this reason and isnt fun. About m2, once you fire m2 and you miss you are dead. Especially cause most players run gunboats. Scouts will hop all over you once you are out. And it isnt easy to actually hit peopld who can dodge very well with m2.
About rescue ranger, I played a few games against teams with it and it really isnt to much better, but it slows down the game a fuckton. Because now you can hide your sentry in stupid places and tank it safely from your spawn, you can also just pull it out and rebuilt it somewhere else if it is being spammed down.
It is funny that the scout has 7/22 items banned and is the most powerful class in 6's.
Pyro has one item banned and will still never be run.
About the mangler, it should be banned because of unlimited ammo, which actually buffs the demo, cause now he can take all the ammo packs. It is also easily spammable for this reason and isnt fun. About m2, once you fire m2 and you miss you are dead. Especially cause most players run gunboats. Scouts will hop all over you once you are out. And it isnt easy to actually hit peopld who can dodge very well with m2.
About rescue ranger, I played a few games against teams with it and it really isnt to much better, but it slows down the game a fuckton. Because now you can hide your sentry in stupid places and tank it safely from your spawn, you can also just pull it out and rebuilt it somewhere else if it is being spammed down.
Pyro has one item banned and will still never be run.
About the mangler, it should be banned because of unlimited ammo, which actually buffs the demo, cause now he can take all the ammo packs. It is also easily spammable for this reason and isnt fun. About m2, once you fire m2 and you miss you are dead. Especially cause most players run gunboats. Scouts will hop all over you once you are out. And it isnt easy to actually hit peopld who can dodge very well with m2.
About rescue ranger, I played a few games against teams with it and it really isnt to much better, but it slows down the game a fuckton. Because now you can hide your sentry in stupid places and tank it safely from your spawn, you can also just pull it out and rebuilt it somewhere else if it is being spammed down.
kawaidk the item was banned for a pretty good reason back in the day
it still had 5 rockets/clip when it was banned from every tf2 league back in the day
[quote=kawa]idk the item was banned for a pretty good reason back in the day[/quote]
it still had 5 rockets/clip when it was banned from every tf2 league back in the day
it still had 5 rockets/clip when it was banned from every tf2 league back in the day
kawa
also running it on viaduct is kind of a no brainer, one of the biggest reasons it got banned initially
it was because of double engi gpit strats. engi is now limited to 1. gslinger will be ok.
[quote=kawa]
also running it on viaduct is kind of a no brainer, one of the biggest reasons it got banned initially
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it was because of double engi gpit strats. engi is now limited to 1. gslinger will be ok.
also running it on viaduct is kind of a no brainer, one of the biggest reasons it got banned initially
[/quote]
it was because of double engi gpit strats. engi is now limited to 1. gslinger will be ok.
Orang3It is funny that the scout has 7/22 items banned and is the most powerful class in 6's.
Pyro has one item banned and will still never be run.
About the mangler, it should be banned because of unlimited ammo, which actually buffs the demo, cause now he can take all the ammo packs. It is also easily spammable for this reason and isnt fun. About m2, once you fire m2 and you miss you are dead. Especially cause most players run gunboats. Scouts will hop all over you once you are out. And it isnt easy to actually hit peopld who can dodge very well with m2.
About rescue ranger, I played a few games against teams with it and it really isnt to much better, but it slows down the game a fuckton. Because now you can hide your sentry in stupid places and tank it safely from your spawn, you can also just pull it out and rebuilt it somewhere else if it is being spammed down.
Is it really a bad thing if Demo gets buffed though? Also you don't right click with the cow mangler in a position where you are going to die when doing it. Do it from a choke with your team by you, you're not going to jump into the enemy team and charge a shot there.
[quote=Orang3]It is funny that the scout has 7/22 items banned and is the most powerful class in 6's.
Pyro has one item banned and will still never be run.
About the mangler, it should be banned because of unlimited ammo, which actually buffs the demo, cause now he can take all the ammo packs. It is also easily spammable for this reason and isnt fun. About m2, once you fire m2 and you miss you are dead. Especially cause most players run gunboats. Scouts will hop all over you once you are out. And it isnt easy to actually hit peopld who can dodge very well with m2.
About rescue ranger, I played a few games against teams with it and it really isnt to much better, but it slows down the game a fuckton. Because now you can hide your sentry in stupid places and tank it safely from your spawn, you can also just pull it out and rebuilt it somewhere else if it is being spammed down.[/quote]
Is it really a bad thing if Demo gets buffed though? Also you don't right click with the cow mangler in a position where you are going to die when doing it. Do it from a choke with your team by you, you're not going to jump into the enemy team and charge a shot there.
Pyro has one item banned and will still never be run.
About the mangler, it should be banned because of unlimited ammo, which actually buffs the demo, cause now he can take all the ammo packs. It is also easily spammable for this reason and isnt fun. About m2, once you fire m2 and you miss you are dead. Especially cause most players run gunboats. Scouts will hop all over you once you are out. And it isnt easy to actually hit peopld who can dodge very well with m2.
About rescue ranger, I played a few games against teams with it and it really isnt to much better, but it slows down the game a fuckton. Because now you can hide your sentry in stupid places and tank it safely from your spawn, you can also just pull it out and rebuilt it somewhere else if it is being spammed down.[/quote]
Is it really a bad thing if Demo gets buffed though? Also you don't right click with the cow mangler in a position where you are going to die when doing it. Do it from a choke with your team by you, you're not going to jump into the enemy team and charge a shot there.
The fucking rescue ranger is stupid to pusH against. Either valve lower the hp each shot heals the sentry l
Or ban it, its kinda ridiculous.
The fucking rescue ranger is stupid to pusH against. Either valve lower the hp each shot heals the sentry l
Or ban it, its kinda ridiculous.
Or ban it, its kinda ridiculous.
CitroMaindThe fucking rescue ranger is stupid to pusH against. Either valve lower the hp each shot heals the sentry l
Or ban it, its kinda ridiculous.
They already lowered it, it's more the fact that you can pick up buildings and walk inside spawn with them which you werent able to do before. Also sentries heal themselves if they get damaged while redeploying. HF pushing into damage sponge natasha heavy + damage sponge rescue ranger sentry :)
[quote=CitroMaind]The fucking rescue ranger is stupid to pusH against. Either valve lower the hp each shot heals the sentry l
Or ban it, its kinda ridiculous.[/quote]
They already lowered it, it's more the fact that you can pick up buildings and walk inside spawn with them which you werent able to do before. Also sentries heal themselves if they get damaged while redeploying. HF pushing into damage sponge natasha heavy + damage sponge rescue ranger sentry :)
Or ban it, its kinda ridiculous.[/quote]
They already lowered it, it's more the fact that you can pick up buildings and walk inside spawn with them which you werent able to do before. Also sentries heal themselves if they get damaged while redeploying. HF pushing into damage sponge natasha heavy + damage sponge rescue ranger sentry :)
http://puu.sh/r8AnV/00a5c3fd8f.png
I don't mind.
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I don't mind.
I don't mind.
calciferTwiggyWhat was the problem with BASE Jumper? Was it that good?no its just retarded
so you are going to tell me that no item allowed in this whitelist is "retarded" as you say?
[quote=calcifer][quote=Twiggy]What was the problem with BASE Jumper? Was it that good?[/quote]
no its just retarded[/quote]
so you are going to tell me that no item allowed in this whitelist is "retarded" as you say?
no its just retarded[/quote]
so you are going to tell me that no item allowed in this whitelist is "retarded" as you say?
the base jumper is banned cuz of the stupid abuse case of jerking off at the top of the skybox
sure, stronger engies and easier spam is lame but you at least still play against them like normal players.
the base jumper is banned cuz of the stupid abuse case of jerking off at the top of the skybox
sure, stronger engies and easier spam is lame but you at least still play against them like normal players.
sure, stronger engies and easier spam is lame but you at least still play against them like normal players.
The biggest reason why I think the parachute needed to be banned was because you could spam it and make your flight path nearly impossible to predict if you're a soldier/demoman. And the argument of "well there are scouts" goes back to a problem that we've had for a while now: scouts don't need to be the class that counters everything because frankly, he hasn't gotten a nerf in ages. It's a bad argument on paper yes but scout doesn't need to become any more powerful than he actually is.
Personally i think that the base jumper should be changed to where you can only deploy it once while you're in the air (when you undeploy it after that you would just fall straight to the ground) and there would also be a charge time for the base jumper to be available, maybe 5 seconds (it may or may not be optimal but I'm providing an example) or something similar to that. Also taking damage could decrease the overall mobility you have, and enough damage could cause your parachute to give way.
The biggest reason why I think the parachute needed to be banned was because you could spam it and make your flight path nearly impossible to predict if you're a soldier/demoman. And the argument of "well there are scouts" goes back to a problem that we've had for a while now: scouts don't need to be the class that counters everything because frankly, he hasn't gotten a nerf in ages. It's a bad argument on paper yes but scout doesn't need to become any more powerful than he actually is.
Personally i think that the base jumper should be changed to where you can only deploy it once while you're in the air (when you undeploy it after that you would just fall straight to the ground) and there would also be a charge time for the base jumper to be available, maybe 5 seconds (it may or may not be optimal but I'm providing an example) or something similar to that. Also taking damage could decrease the overall mobility you have, and enough damage could cause your parachute to give way.
Personally i think that the base jumper should be changed to where you can only deploy it once while you're in the air (when you undeploy it after that you would just fall straight to the ground) and there would also be a charge time for the base jumper to be available, maybe 5 seconds (it may or may not be optimal but I'm providing an example) or something similar to that. Also taking damage could decrease the overall mobility you have, and enough damage could cause your parachute to give way.
KonceptThe biggest reason why I think the parachute needed to be banned was because you could spam it and make your flight path nearly impossible to predict if you're a soldier/demoman. And the argument of "well there are scouts" goes back to a problem that we've had for a while now: scouts don't need to be the class that counters everything because frankly, he hasn't gotten a nerf in ages. It's a bad argument on paper yes but scout doesn't need to become any more powerful than he actually is.
Personally i think that the base jumper should be changed to where you can only deploy it once while you're in the air (when you undeploy it after that you would just fall straight to the ground) and there would also be a charge time for the base jumper to be available, maybe 5 seconds (it may or may not be optimal but I'm providing an example) or something similar to that. Also taking damage could decrease the overall mobility you have, and enough damage could cause your parachute to give way.
or they could make it so that you can't completely control your movement ie spamming was and retaining the same momentum/being able to turn around instantly
[quote=Koncept]The biggest reason why I think the parachute needed to be banned was because you could spam it and make your flight path nearly impossible to predict if you're a soldier/demoman. And the argument of "well there are scouts" goes back to a problem that we've had for a while now: scouts don't need to be the class that counters everything because frankly, he hasn't gotten a nerf in ages. It's a bad argument on paper yes but scout doesn't need to become any more powerful than he actually is.
Personally i think that the base jumper should be changed to where you can only deploy it once while you're in the air (when you undeploy it after that you would just fall straight to the ground) and there would also be a charge time for the base jumper to be available, maybe 5 seconds (it may or may not be optimal but I'm providing an example) or something similar to that. Also taking damage could decrease the overall mobility you have, and enough damage could cause your parachute to give way.[/quote]
or they could make it so that you can't completely control your movement ie spamming was and retaining the same momentum/being able to turn around instantly
Personally i think that the base jumper should be changed to where you can only deploy it once while you're in the air (when you undeploy it after that you would just fall straight to the ground) and there would also be a charge time for the base jumper to be available, maybe 5 seconds (it may or may not be optimal but I'm providing an example) or something similar to that. Also taking damage could decrease the overall mobility you have, and enough damage could cause your parachute to give way.[/quote]
or they could make it so that you can't completely control your movement ie spamming was and retaining the same momentum/being able to turn around instantly
bearodactylKonceptThe biggest reason why I think the parachute needed to be banned was because you could spam it and make your flight path nearly impossible to predict if you're a soldier/demoman. And the argument of "well there are scouts" goes back to a problem that we've had for a while now: scouts don't need to be the class that counters everything because frankly, he hasn't gotten a nerf in ages. It's a bad argument on paper yes but scout doesn't need to become any more powerful than he actually is.or they could make it so that you can't completely control your movement ie spamming was and retaining the same momentum/being able to turn around instantly
Personally i think that the base jumper should be changed to where you can only deploy it once while you're in the air (when you undeploy it after that you would just fall straight to the ground) and there would also be a charge time for the base jumper to be available, maybe 5 seconds (it may or may not be optimal but I'm providing an example) or something similar to that. Also taking damage could decrease the overall mobility you have, and enough damage could cause your parachute to give way.
I like the idea of that. Also wasn't the initial release of the base jumper supposed to include a "lack of mobility" as a downside to it? I get that you're giving up the damage reduction from gunboats but you're basically getting heightened air mobility with how it is currently
[quote=bearodactyl][quote=Koncept]The biggest reason why I think the parachute needed to be banned was because you could spam it and make your flight path nearly impossible to predict if you're a soldier/demoman. And the argument of "well there are scouts" goes back to a problem that we've had for a while now: scouts don't need to be the class that counters everything because frankly, he hasn't gotten a nerf in ages. It's a bad argument on paper yes but scout doesn't need to become any more powerful than he actually is.
Personally i think that the base jumper should be changed to where you can only deploy it once while you're in the air (when you undeploy it after that you would just fall straight to the ground) and there would also be a charge time for the base jumper to be available, maybe 5 seconds (it may or may not be optimal but I'm providing an example) or something similar to that. Also taking damage could decrease the overall mobility you have, and enough damage could cause your parachute to give way.[/quote]
or they could make it so that you can't completely control your movement ie spamming was and retaining the same momentum/being able to turn around instantly[/quote]
I like the idea of that. Also wasn't the initial release of the base jumper supposed to include a "lack of mobility" as a downside to it? I get that you're giving up the damage reduction from gunboats but you're basically getting heightened air mobility with how it is currently
Personally i think that the base jumper should be changed to where you can only deploy it once while you're in the air (when you undeploy it after that you would just fall straight to the ground) and there would also be a charge time for the base jumper to be available, maybe 5 seconds (it may or may not be optimal but I'm providing an example) or something similar to that. Also taking damage could decrease the overall mobility you have, and enough damage could cause your parachute to give way.[/quote]
or they could make it so that you can't completely control your movement ie spamming was and retaining the same momentum/being able to turn around instantly[/quote]
I like the idea of that. Also wasn't the initial release of the base jumper supposed to include a "lack of mobility" as a downside to it? I get that you're giving up the damage reduction from gunboats but you're basically getting heightened air mobility with how it is currently
aci mean if ur teamates are calling their dmg why the fuck would u need ur med to call who s weak and who s not using the vow ? i m probably wrong but i think most medics would stick to the ubersaw anyways.
Their's several reasons to this but their's a large difference between
Player1: Roamer took 60, Player 2: Roamer took 100
and
Medic: Focus roamer he's low
mentally in example A you have to realize the soldier is low in example B you just follow an order. This is really oversimplified as well as I doubt most people could follow the damage on all 6 classes from all of their teammates during for example a midfight.
Not to mention you don't know if anyone took fall damage, how much of a buff they had before they took damage, etc.
If anything allowing the solemn vow would decrease the skill gap between -some- teams. Reasoning: teams will be more aware of each others health on both sides, and will know that fairly quickly without the need for as many comms or as good of gamesense (which is typically the biggest difference among high level players). Which may or may not be a good thing.
[quote=ac]i mean if ur teamates are calling their dmg why the fuck would u need ur med to call who s weak and who s not using the vow ? i m probably wrong but i think most medics would stick to the ubersaw anyways.[/quote]
Their's several reasons to this but their's a large difference between
Player1: Roamer took 60, Player 2: Roamer took 100
and
Medic: Focus roamer he's low
mentally in example A you have to realize the soldier is low in example B you just follow an order. This is really oversimplified as well as I doubt most people could follow the damage on all 6 classes from all of their teammates during for example a midfight.
Not to mention you don't know if anyone took fall damage, how much of a buff they had before they took damage, etc.
If anything allowing the solemn vow would decrease the skill gap between -some- teams. Reasoning: teams will be more aware of each others health on both sides, and will know that fairly quickly without the need for as many comms or as good of gamesense (which is typically the biggest difference among high level players). Which may or may not be a good thing.
Their's several reasons to this but their's a large difference between
Player1: Roamer took 60, Player 2: Roamer took 100
and
Medic: Focus roamer he's low
mentally in example A you have to realize the soldier is low in example B you just follow an order. This is really oversimplified as well as I doubt most people could follow the damage on all 6 classes from all of their teammates during for example a midfight.
Not to mention you don't know if anyone took fall damage, how much of a buff they had before they took damage, etc.
If anything allowing the solemn vow would decrease the skill gap between -some- teams. Reasoning: teams will be more aware of each others health on both sides, and will know that fairly quickly without the need for as many comms or as good of gamesense (which is typically the biggest difference among high level players). Which may or may not be a good thing.
iirc aside from being an unnecessary fraterate sink, it makes deaths more noticable which can matter with things like spy's YER.
Its really minor but why nerf spy with a cosmetic
Edit: and yeah what the guy below me said. Feigned deaths dont explode.
iirc aside from being an unnecessary fraterate sink, it makes deaths more noticable which can matter with things like spy's YER.
Its really minor but why nerf spy with a cosmetic
Edit: and yeah what the guy below me said. Feigned deaths dont explode.
Its really minor but why nerf spy with a cosmetic
Edit: and yeah what the guy below me said. Feigned deaths dont explode.
qsvuiWhy is the Bombinomicon banned?
think there's a bug with it involving the deadringer
[quote=qsvui]Why is the Bombinomicon banned?[/quote]
think there's a bug with it involving the deadringer
think there's a bug with it involving the deadringer
georgebaiiThis could've been avoided IF YOU ACTUALLY ASKED THE PLAYERS THAT PLAY YOUR LEAGUES IF THIS WAS THE BEST DIRECTION FIRST.
Usually a bad idea, tried it before, didn't work.
I think it's good, either evolve with the game or go and play OW.
[quote=georgebaii]This could've been avoided IF YOU ACTUALLY ASKED THE PLAYERS THAT PLAY YOUR LEAGUES IF THIS WAS THE BEST DIRECTION FIRST.[/quote]
Usually a bad idea, tried it before, didn't work.
I think it's good, either evolve with the game or go and play OW.
Usually a bad idea, tried it before, didn't work.
I think it's good, either evolve with the game or go and play OW.
HildrethgeorgebaiiThis could've been avoided IF YOU ACTUALLY ASKED THE PLAYERS THAT PLAY YOUR LEAGUES IF THIS WAS THE BEST DIRECTION FIRST.
Usually a bad idea, tried it before, didn't work.
I think it's good, either evolve with the game or go and play OW.
this unlocks aren't coming out to be played in competitively, they are just fresh and something that players from pubs really want to have.
but yes you are right, overwatch was actually made to play competitively, tf2 wasn't, and the support that "valve" gives to competitive barely exists.
[quote=Hildreth][quote=georgebaii]This could've been avoided IF YOU ACTUALLY ASKED THE PLAYERS THAT PLAY YOUR LEAGUES IF THIS WAS THE BEST DIRECTION FIRST.[/quote]
Usually a bad idea, tried it before, didn't work.
I think it's good, either evolve with the game or go and play OW.[/quote]
this unlocks aren't coming out to be played in competitively, they are just fresh and something that players from pubs really want to have.
but yes you are right, overwatch was actually made to play competitively, tf2 wasn't, and the support that "valve" gives to competitive barely exists.
Usually a bad idea, tried it before, didn't work.
I think it's good, either evolve with the game or go and play OW.[/quote]
this unlocks aren't coming out to be played in competitively, they are just fresh and something that players from pubs really want to have.
but yes you are right, overwatch was actually made to play competitively, tf2 wasn't, and the support that "valve" gives to competitive barely exists.
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