Raw Input

#1

EroticFishCake

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Is it necessary to use Raw Input?

#2

indra

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yes

#3

DRIFTA

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if you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes

#4

EroticFishCake

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driftaif you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes

My aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.

[quote=drifta]if you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes[/quote]
My aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.

#5

maraudeR

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EroticFishCakedriftaif you use mouse accel, no
if not, yesMy is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.

do u have mouse accel on
ur mouse should never be inconsistent

[quote=EroticFishCake][quote=drifta]if you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes[/quote]
My is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.[/quote]
do u have mouse accel on
ur mouse should never be inconsistent

#6

EroticFishCake

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pyxelizeEroticFishCakedriftaif you use mouse accel, no
if not, yesMy is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.do u have mouse accel on
ur mouse should never be inconsistent

I have mouse accel off

[quote=pyxelize][quote=EroticFishCake][quote=drifta]if you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes[/quote]
My is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.[/quote]
do u have mouse accel on
ur mouse should never be inconsistent[/quote]

I have mouse accel off

#7

Connie-

RGB LAN

7 Frags – +

do you have windows mouse exel on (labeled as "enhance pointer precision" in mouse settings)? What mouse are you using?

#8

jrod

-1 Frags – +

it's probably because you're not used to no mouse accell (windows has built in mouse accell) you just need to get used to raw input, and then you'll be able to see a difference

#9

EroticFishCake

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Consoledo you have windows mouse exel on (labeled as "enhance pointer precision" in mouse settings)? What mouse are you using?

I have windows accel off. I am currently using a logitech g300

[quote=Console]do you have windows mouse exel on (labeled as "enhance pointer precision" in mouse settings)? What mouse are you using?[/quote]
I have windows accel off. I am currently using a logitech g300

#10

Setsul

34 Frags – +

Is your aim also very inconsistent when you have raw input off?

#11

frenzy_

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EroticFishCakedriftaif you use mouse accel, no
if not, yesMy aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.

make sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there

[quote=EroticFishCake][quote=drifta]if you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes[/quote]
My aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.[/quote]
make sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there

#12

maraudeR

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barefoot_banditEroticFishCakedriftaif you use mouse accel, no
if not, yesMy aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.make sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there

what dude
sens is preference

[quote=barefoot_bandit][quote=EroticFishCake][quote=drifta]if you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes[/quote]
My aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.[/quote]
make sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there[/quote]

what dude
sens is preference

#13

sage

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EroticFishCakedriftaif you use mouse accel, no
if not, yesMy aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.

if you are used to X sens and turn on raw input it will make it way slower
so adjust the sens after enabling raw input so that its roughly the same than before
raw input should make you more consistent, not the other way around

[quote=EroticFishCake][quote=drifta]if you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes[/quote]
My aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.[/quote]
if you are used to X sens and turn on raw input it will make it way slower
so adjust the sens after enabling raw input so that its roughly the same than before
raw input should make you more consistent, not the other way around

#14

the301stspartan

7 Frags – +

SetsulIs your aim also very inconsistent when you have raw input off?

/thread

[quote=Setsul]Is your aim also very inconsistent when you have raw input off?[/quote]

/thread

#15

EroticFishCake

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sageEroticFishCakedriftaif you use mouse accel, no
if not, yesMy aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.if you are used to X sens and turn on raw input it will make it way slower
so adjust the sens after enabling raw input so that its roughly the same than before
raw input should make you more consistent, not the other way aroundbarefoot_banditEroticFishCakedriftaif you use mouse accel, no
if not, yesMy aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.make sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there

I use 5.5 ingame

[quote=sage][quote=EroticFishCake][quote=drifta]if you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes[/quote]
My aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.[/quote]
if you are used to X sens and turn on raw input it will make it way slower
so adjust the sens after enabling raw input so that its roughly the same than before
raw input should make you more consistent, not the other way around[/quote]
[quote=barefoot_bandit][quote=EroticFishCake][quote=drifta]if you use mouse accel, no
if not, yes[/quote]
My aim is very inconsistent when i have raw input on.[/quote]
make sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there[/quote]
I use 5.5 ingame

#16

Shpeeisme

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barefoot_banditmake sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there

I use 1200 dpi, is there actually a reason to use 800 over 1200 or were you just saying 800 bc you know the in-game sens range for that?

[quote=barefoot_bandit]
make sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there[/quote]
I use 1200 dpi, is there actually a reason to use 800 over 1200 or were you just saying 800 bc you know the in-game sens range for that?

#17

JarateKing

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The g300 isn't a consistent mouse. Offcenter sensor position, known jitter on many surfaces, potential positive or negative acceleration, and a 1.5 m/s malfunction speed.

I don't know enough about raw_input itself, other than that I've heard fps, fps inconsistency, and mouse hz can all have effects on its smoothness and input lag. But a better mouse will make a much bigger difference than raw_input would.

Shpeeismebarefoot_banditmake sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in thereI use 1200 dpi, is there actually a reason to use 800 over 1200 or were you just saying 800 bc you know the in-game sens range for that?

If a mouse sensor's native DPI is 800, you should use 800 dpi. If it's 1200 dpi, you should use 1200 dpi. This depends a lot on the mouse sensor in question, and nowadays a lot of sensors have a range for their native dpi (notably modern Pixart sensors) so it's more something you have to research.

Recommending it with a sens and not saying what mice makes it sound like the latter though.

The g300 isn't a consistent mouse. Offcenter sensor position, known jitter on many surfaces, potential positive or negative acceleration, and a 1.5 m/s malfunction speed.

I don't know enough about raw_input itself, other than that I've heard fps, fps inconsistency, and mouse hz can all have effects on its smoothness and input lag. But a better mouse will make a much bigger difference than raw_input would.

[quote=Shpeeisme][quote=barefoot_bandit]
make sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there[/quote]
I use 1200 dpi, is there actually a reason to use 800 over 1200 or were you just saying 800 bc you know the in-game sens range for that?[/quote]
If a mouse sensor's native DPI is 800, you should use 800 dpi. If it's 1200 dpi, you should use 1200 dpi. This depends a lot on the mouse sensor in question, and nowadays a lot of sensors have a range for their native dpi (notably modern Pixart sensors) so it's more something you have to research.

Recommending it with a sens and not saying what mice makes it sound like the latter though.

#18

Quader

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JarateKingThe g300 isn't a consistent mouse. Offcenter sensor position, known jitter on many surfaces, potential positive or negative acceleration, and a 1.5 m/s malfunction speed.

I don't know enough about raw_input itself, other than that I've heard fps, fps inconsistency, and mouse hz can all have effects on its smoothness and input lag. But a better mouse will make a much bigger difference than raw_input would.
Shpeeismebarefoot_banditmake sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in thereI use 1200 dpi, is there actually a reason to use 800 over 1200 or were you just saying 800 bc you know the in-game sens range for that?If a mouse sensor's native DPI is 800(hardware dpi), you should use 800 dpi. If it's 1200 dpi, you should use 1200 dpi. This depends a lot on the mouse sensor in question, and nowadays a lot of sensors have a range for their native dpi (notably modern Pixart sensors) so it's more something you have to research.

Recommending it with a sens and not saying what mice makes it sound like the latter though.

G300 has positive acceleration + It won't jitter on native dpi(hardware). If it jitters on native dpi(hardware) sensor or software is broken.
Actually A3050 sensor is picky about the surface.

Still PMW3360/66 best dpi is 800(hardware). The only think is you can swipe your mouse 7m/s and it will registry your move.

DPI≠ more precise
@Sheepisme how the sens is being calculated try 12.0 in-game and you will see how many pixels it will skip. You won't notice that if you use bellow 7.0

To thread: How many hours did you spend with raw input on? Maybe you still didn't used to it? If you have raw input on then you don't need to care about windows acceleration. The 6/11 and Enchance pointer precision is for old games without raw input option.

You can use mouse acceleration. It is your preference but it is like adding luck element.

[quote=JarateKing]The g300 isn't a consistent mouse. Offcenter sensor position, known jitter on many surfaces, potential positive or negative acceleration, and a 1.5 m/s malfunction speed.

I don't know enough about raw_input itself, other than that I've heard fps, fps inconsistency, and mouse hz can all have effects on its smoothness and input lag. But a better mouse will make a much bigger difference than raw_input would.

[quote=Shpeeisme][quote=barefoot_bandit]
make sure you are using 800dpi and like 1.5-3 in game somewhere in there[/quote]
I use 1200 dpi, is there actually a reason to use 800 over 1200 or were you just saying 800 bc you know the in-game sens range for that?[/quote]
If a mouse sensor's native DPI is 800(hardware dpi), you should use 800 dpi. If it's 1200 dpi, you should use 1200 dpi. This depends a lot on the mouse sensor in question, and nowadays a lot of sensors have a range for their native dpi (notably modern Pixart sensors) so it's more something you have to research.

Recommending it with a sens and not saying what mice makes it sound like the latter though.[/quote]

G300 has positive acceleration + It won't jitter on native dpi(hardware). If it jitters on native dpi(hardware) sensor or software is broken.
Actually A3050 sensor is picky about the surface.

Still PMW3360/66 best dpi is 800(hardware). The only think is you can swipe your mouse 7m/s and it will registry your move.

DPI≠ more precise
@Sheepisme how the sens is being calculated try 12.0 in-game and you will see how many pixels it will skip. You won't notice that if you use bellow 7.0

To thread: How many hours did you spend with raw input on? Maybe you still didn't used to it? If you have raw input on then you don't need to care about windows acceleration. The 6/11 and Enchance pointer precision is for old games without raw input option.

You can use mouse acceleration. It is your preference but it is like adding luck element.

#19

KoaR

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1

#20

Hopps

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100%

#21

logically

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its better to use it
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/forum/uploads/monthly_09_2015/post-2-0-51036600-1442408902.jpg

#22

Comanglia

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logicallyits better to use it
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/forum/uploads/monthly_09_2015/post-2-0-51036600-1442408902.jpg

Just as a disclaimer for Rinput

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/forum/topic/342-counter-strike-global-offensive-m_rawinput-vs-rinput/?do=findComment&comment=3703

Volz and JezuzTeensy tests show the new RInput has <0.001% packet loss across all FPS. (Oct 19 2015)

So the latest versions of Rinput are basically within the same margin of packet discrepancy as rawinput

[quote=logically]its better to use it
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/forum/uploads/monthly_09_2015/post-2-0-51036600-1442408902.jpg[/quote]

Just as a disclaimer for Rinput

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/forum/topic/342-counter-strike-global-offensive-m_rawinput-vs-rinput/?do=findComment&comment=3703

[quote=Volz and Jezuz]Teensy tests show the new RInput has <0.001% packet loss across all FPS. (Oct 19 2015)[/quote]

So the latest versions of Rinput are basically within the same margin of packet discrepancy as rawinput