b4nny and garbuglio were the only ones in froyo that actually wanted to attend lan... smh
Se7en not going to i61???
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kaidusSe7en will be entirely self-funded, accommodation already booked. If there is no official tournament we would fully endorse going the extra mile to arrange something unofficial as well. cu@ one way or another...
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[quote=kaidus]Se7en will be entirely self-funded, accommodation already booked. If there is no official tournament we would fully endorse going the extra mile to arrange something unofficial as well. cu@ one way or another...[/quote]
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T0mglassIt really isnt. If it was for an amount which is actually substantial then yeah for sure but for tf2 at iseries it really really isnt.T0mthe teams that don't win will be dipping into their bank accounts to get there. the team that wins, won't. this is an additional reason to go if you are the heavy favorite. it has nothing to do with how much/why they love the game.glassyou dont play tf2 for moneyT0mMeh I can understand their issues with attending now. With an american team not going they don't really have any incentive anymore especially with kaidus having to play on that wrist all day on the saturday. At the end of the day alle's team is still a mix team regardless of who is on the roster.the money is an incentive. it's different for na because you're barely breaking even with the plane ticket, nevermind the other crap, but when a european team wins an i-series they do pretty well.
guess i see what you're saying. i should've said 'removal of a disincentive' (travel costs) rather than 'incentive'.
[quote=T0m][quote=glass][quote=T0m][quote=glass][quote=T0m]Meh I can understand their issues with attending now. With an american team not going they don't really have any incentive anymore especially with kaidus having to play on that wrist all day on the saturday. At the end of the day alle's team is still a mix team regardless of who is on the roster.[/quote]
the money is an incentive. it's different for na because you're barely breaking even with the plane ticket, nevermind the other crap, but when a european team wins an i-series they do pretty well.[/quote]
you dont play tf2 for money[/quote]
the teams that don't win will be dipping into their bank accounts to get there. the team that wins, won't. this is an additional reason to go if you are the heavy favorite. it has nothing to do with how much/why they love the game.[/quote]
It really isnt. If it was for an amount which is actually substantial then yeah for sure but for tf2 at iseries it really really isnt.[/quote]
guess i see what you're saying. i should've said 'removal of a disincentive' (travel costs) rather than 'incentive'.
the money is an incentive. it's different for na because you're barely breaking even with the plane ticket, nevermind the other crap, but when a european team wins an i-series they do pretty well.[/quote]
you dont play tf2 for money[/quote]
the teams that don't win will be dipping into their bank accounts to get there. the team that wins, won't. this is an additional reason to go if you are the heavy favorite. it has nothing to do with how much/why they love the game.[/quote]
It really isnt. If it was for an amount which is actually substantial then yeah for sure but for tf2 at iseries it really really isnt.[/quote]
guess i see what you're saying. i should've said 'removal of a disincentive' (travel costs) rather than 'incentive'.
smziFor real though i do not think se7en will dodge i mean most of their players live next to the lan anyways
Later on in the stream I think the expectation was that 3 or 4 of the 6 players would probably go, so it'll end up being a bit of a mix team or something. Bit like the pre-i46 days really.
[quote=smzi]For real though i do not think se7en will dodge i mean most of their players live next to the lan anyways[/quote]
Later on in the stream I think the expectation was that 3 or 4 of the 6 players would probably go, so it'll end up being a bit of a mix team or something. Bit like the pre-i46 days really.
Later on in the stream I think the expectation was that 3 or 4 of the 6 players would probably go, so it'll end up being a bit of a mix team or something. Bit like the pre-i46 days really.
cirloAlfieI'm probably missing something, but this^ is stupid...TobEven if this is serious I'm hoping they'll still go. LANs are fun and I'm hoping they'll at least go for that alone.yeah they will all probably come to the LAN, just not video game
If they're not playing but still going, having Kaidus as analyst/caster again would be cool.
Also if this is not enough to convince them: I'm going this year B)
Its not stupid, if they want to win the lan they still have to scrim a lot. If they decide not to play they will probably still come but wont play because like I said they wont be prepared
[quote=cirlo][quote=Alfie][quote=Tob]Even if this is serious I'm hoping they'll still go. LANs are fun and I'm hoping they'll at least go for that alone.
If they're not playing but still going, having Kaidus as analyst/caster again would be cool.
Also if this is not enough to convince them: I'm going this year B)[/quote]
yeah they will all probably come to the LAN, just not video game[/quote]
I'm probably missing something, but this^ is stupid...[/quote]
Its not stupid, if they want to win the lan they still have to scrim a lot. If they decide not to play they will probably still come but wont play because like I said they wont be prepared
If they're not playing but still going, having Kaidus as analyst/caster again would be cool.
Also if this is not enough to convince them: I'm going this year B)[/quote]
yeah they will all probably come to the LAN, just not video game[/quote]
I'm probably missing something, but this^ is stupid...[/quote]
Its not stupid, if they want to win the lan they still have to scrim a lot. If they decide not to play they will probably still come but wont play because like I said they wont be prepared
So with svift being the only confirmed team is the LAN even happening now or not?
e: sorry i just hadn't heard of any other announcements from top teams
So with svift being the only confirmed team is the LAN even happening now or not?
e: sorry i just hadn't heard of any other announcements from top teams
e: sorry i just hadn't heard of any other announcements from top teams
I still don't really understand why they're not going. If it's so important to the EU scene that Se7en attend then why can't they just find it in themselves to show up despite there potentially being no NA teams? If it's a monetary issue then can't they just give most of their inevitable prize money to the players that have to fly into the UK
I still don't really understand why they're not going. If it's so important to the EU scene that Se7en attend then why can't they just find it in themselves to show up despite there potentially being no NA teams? If it's a monetary issue then can't they just give most of their inevitable prize money to the players that have to fly into the UK
CyanicSo with svift being the only confirmed team is the LAN even happening now or not?
the fuck are you talking about have you even checked the seat picker? there's like 15+ teams already confirmed going
[quote=Cyanic]So with svift being the only confirmed team is the LAN even happening now or not?[/quote]
the fuck are you talking about have you even checked the seat picker? there's like 15+ teams already confirmed going
the fuck are you talking about have you even checked the seat picker? there's like 15+ teams already confirmed going
purely speaking for myself, the reason I rejoined seven was to have the "proper" NA vs EU lan. at i58 froyo had all that shit with muma and at rewind we didnt have enough time to play like a team. I was only playing because I thought we'd be playing froyo at i61. finding out that our best competition was gonna be a european mix killed my motivation.
I dont want to compete if Im not 100% keen to win and with the LAN as it is, I wouldnt be
purely speaking for myself, the reason I rejoined seven was to have the "proper" NA vs EU lan. at i58 froyo had all that shit with muma and at rewind we didnt have enough time to play like a team. I was only playing because I thought we'd be playing froyo at i61. finding out that our best competition was gonna be a european mix killed my motivation.
I dont want to compete if Im not 100% keen to win and with the LAN as it is, I wouldnt be
I dont want to compete if Im not 100% keen to win and with the LAN as it is, I wouldnt be
Starkiefinding out that our best competition was gonna be a european mix
lmao doesnt even wanna acknowledge the LANpander
[quote=Starkie][b]finding out that our best competition was gonna be a european mix[/b][/quote]
lmao doesnt even wanna acknowledge the LANpander
lmao doesnt even wanna acknowledge the LANpander
StarkieI dont want to compete if Im not 100% keen to win and with the LAN as it is, I wouldnt be
B4nnys master plan to weaken the competition by not attending
[quote=Starkie]
I dont want to compete if Im not 100% keen to win and with the LAN as it is, I wouldnt be[/quote]
B4nnys master plan to weaken the competition by not attending
I dont want to compete if Im not 100% keen to win and with the LAN as it is, I wouldnt be[/quote]
B4nnys master plan to weaken the competition by not attending
Correct me if I'm wrong but I find this "oh if FROYO isn't going might as well not go because there will be no competition" quite disrespectful. I mean you're technically telling the other teams that they're completely worthless to play against and therefore you shouldn't bother competing because it's a gurateed win? If I was a team leader or something I'd honestly take it as an insult. There are still two months for this so called mix team team to prepare and I'm pretty sure any player competing at LAN is giving their best.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I find this "oh if FROYO isn't going might as well not go because there will be no competition" quite disrespectful. I mean you're technically telling the other teams that they're completely worthless to play against and therefore you shouldn't bother competing because it's a gurateed win? If I was a team leader or something I'd honestly take it as an insult. There are still two months for this so called mix team team to prepare and I'm pretty sure any player competing at LAN is giving their best.
i mean stark already "quit" the game half a year ago due to lack of motivation dont know why this is too surprising to anyone, including his own team
i mean stark already "quit" the game half a year ago due to lack of motivation dont know why this is too surprising to anyone, including his own team
if you don't want to go to lan because froyo isn't going to be there then why are you even bothering to play prem
if you don't want to go to lan because froyo isn't going to be there then why are you even bothering to play prem
also serious question to all the long time EU players, how different was the atitude of people to LAN before i46, before it went intercontinental, considering how that seems to be the number one reason for lan slowly dying rn
also serious question to all the long time EU players, how different was the atitude of people to LAN before i46, before it went intercontinental, considering how that seems to be the number one reason for lan slowly dying rn
froyo and se7en having a long-distance relationship :3
I ship
froyo and se7en having a long-distance relationship :3
I ship
I ship
DuMmTmalso serious question to all the long time EU players, how different was the atitude of people to LAN before i46, before it went intercontinental, considering how that seems to be the number one reason for lan slowly dying rn
people got drunk, epsi/dig won since they were the only ones trying apparently
[quote=DuMmTm]also serious question to all the long time EU players, how different was the atitude of people to LAN before i46, before it went intercontinental, considering how that seems to be the number one reason for lan slowly dying rn[/quote]
people got drunk, epsi/dig won since they were the only ones trying apparently
people got drunk, epsi/dig won since they were the only ones trying apparently
georgebaiiIf the core players aren't attending they should at least hand the Froyotech/Se7en name/branding to another team just for the event. The idea of one of the main tourneys of the entire LAN not having the best teams in the world is so fucking disappointing.
legit the dumbest thing posted in like a month
[quote=georgebaii]If the core players aren't attending they should at least hand the Froyotech/Se7en name/branding to another team just for the event. The idea of one of the main tourneys of the entire LAN not having the best teams in the world is so fucking disappointing.[/quote]
legit the dumbest thing posted in like a month
legit the dumbest thing posted in like a month
HiipFireDuMmTmalso serious question to all the long time EU players, how different was the atitude of people to LAN before i46, before it went intercontinental, considering how that seems to be the number one reason for lan slowly dying rnpeople got drunk, epsi/dig won since they were the only ones trying apparently
Epsi / Diggi got drunk as well, did you not see Darn / Extremer play?
It was still the same concept of what i61 will be, top EU teams playing an offline tournament opposed to an online one with one team clear favourites to win.
[quote=HiipFire][quote=DuMmTm]also serious question to all the long time EU players, how different was the atitude of people to LAN before i46, before it went intercontinental, considering how that seems to be the number one reason for lan slowly dying rn[/quote]
people got drunk, epsi/dig won since they were the only ones trying apparently[/quote]
Epsi / Diggi got drunk as well, did you not see Darn / Extremer play?
It was still the same concept of what i61 will be, top EU teams playing an offline tournament opposed to an online one with one team clear favourites to win.
people got drunk, epsi/dig won since they were the only ones trying apparently[/quote]
Epsi / Diggi got drunk as well, did you not see Darn / Extremer play?
It was still the same concept of what i61 will be, top EU teams playing an offline tournament opposed to an online one with one team clear favourites to win.
rocketslayif you don't want to go to lan because froyo isn't going to be there then why are you even bothering to play prem
That is the principle why a lot of top players have been slowly quitting invite/prem--not a lot of top tier competition besides lans, as explained by starkie.
@starkie, you wouldn't have been playing froyo in gf anyway xd
mathemaphysicistCorrect me if I'm wrong but I find this "oh if FROYO isn't going might as well not go because there will be no competition" quite disrespectful. I mean you're technically telling the other teams that they're completely worthless to play against and therefore you shouldn't bother competing because it's a gurateed win? If I was a team leader or something I'd honestly take it as an insult. There are still two months for this so called mix team team to prepare and I'm pretty sure any player competing at LAN is giving their best.
This actually would've been the most competitive and close LAN in a long time honestly, as 7 and evl have an upgraded roster and froyo is always just froyo. as such, it's unfortunate that half of the players or so from froyo and evl can't attend and the rest not feeling like it's worth it, as explained well by clockwork in another thread. Along with what clockwork said, when one of the top teams can't attend, what's the point of going? People play tf2 because they love the game, yes, but they love playing the game against the very best teams.
georgebaiiIf the core players aren't attending they should at least hand the Froyotech/Se7en name/branding to another team just for the event. The idea of one of the main tourneys of the entire LAN not having the best teams in the world is so fucking disappointing.
Why would you want a mediocre team to represent a "prestigious" brand? I'm actually having a hard time thinking of one good reason that could be appropriate.
DollyIn this day and age (More so in eu) I would cut players who wouldn't go to lan, just because it causes more problems long term with roster shuffles, and winning a season means nothing compared to world championships where you can make decent money.
In this day and age? Why would you cut somebody because they can't or don't want to go to the 1-2 small and unprofessional lans that happen per year, especially when there are so few replacement options at the top level of tf2? That day and age past years ago when esea LAN died. I think you have it backwards, in which you should only really be cutting players for not being able to go to LAN if most tournaments were LAN-based like bigger games.
I have no words to describe how dumb it is to think a team should uphold a standard of going to lans in a video game that has 0 money and extremely little competition. You guys are acting like tf2 is a real esport. If a team doesn't want to go, that's enough reason to not go
[quote=rocketslay]if you don't want to go to lan because froyo isn't going to be there then why are you even bothering to play prem[/quote]
That is the principle why a lot of top players have been slowly quitting invite/prem--not a lot of top tier competition besides lans, as explained by starkie.
@starkie, you wouldn't have been playing froyo in gf anyway xd
[quote=mathemaphysicist]Correct me if I'm wrong but I find this "oh if FROYO isn't going might as well not go because there will be no competition" quite disrespectful. I mean you're technically telling the other teams that they're completely worthless to play against and therefore you shouldn't bother competing because it's a gurateed win? If I was a team leader or something I'd honestly take it as an insult. There are still two months for this so called mix team team to prepare and I'm pretty sure any player competing at LAN is giving their best.[/quote]
This actually would've been the most competitive and close LAN in a long time honestly, as 7 and evl have an upgraded roster and froyo is always just froyo. as such, it's unfortunate that half of the players or so from froyo and evl can't attend and the rest not feeling like it's worth it, as explained well by clockwork in another thread. Along with what clockwork said, when one of the top teams can't attend, [i]what's the point of going?[/I] People play tf2 because they love the game, yes, but they love playing the game against the very best teams.
[quote=georgebaii]If the core players aren't attending they should at least hand the Froyotech/Se7en name/branding to another team just for the event. The idea of one of the main tourneys of the entire LAN not having the best teams in the world is so fucking disappointing.[/quote]
Why would you want a mediocre team to represent a "prestigious" brand? I'm actually having a hard time thinking of one good reason that could be appropriate.
[quote=Dolly]In this day and age (More so in eu) I would cut players who wouldn't go to lan, just because it causes more problems long term with roster shuffles, and winning a season means nothing compared to world championships where you can make decent money.[/quote]
In this day and age? Why would you cut somebody because they can't or don't want to go to the 1-2 small and unprofessional lans that happen per year, especially when there are so few replacement options at the top level of tf2? That day and age past years ago when esea LAN died. I think you have it backwards, in which you should only really be cutting players for not being able to go to LAN if most tournaments were LAN-based like bigger games.
I have no words to describe how dumb it is to think a team should uphold a standard of going to lans in a video game that has 0 money and extremely little competition. You guys are acting like tf2 is a real esport. If a team doesn't [i]want[/i] to go, that's enough reason to not go
That is the principle why a lot of top players have been slowly quitting invite/prem--not a lot of top tier competition besides lans, as explained by starkie.
@starkie, you wouldn't have been playing froyo in gf anyway xd
[quote=mathemaphysicist]Correct me if I'm wrong but I find this "oh if FROYO isn't going might as well not go because there will be no competition" quite disrespectful. I mean you're technically telling the other teams that they're completely worthless to play against and therefore you shouldn't bother competing because it's a gurateed win? If I was a team leader or something I'd honestly take it as an insult. There are still two months for this so called mix team team to prepare and I'm pretty sure any player competing at LAN is giving their best.[/quote]
This actually would've been the most competitive and close LAN in a long time honestly, as 7 and evl have an upgraded roster and froyo is always just froyo. as such, it's unfortunate that half of the players or so from froyo and evl can't attend and the rest not feeling like it's worth it, as explained well by clockwork in another thread. Along with what clockwork said, when one of the top teams can't attend, [i]what's the point of going?[/I] People play tf2 because they love the game, yes, but they love playing the game against the very best teams.
[quote=georgebaii]If the core players aren't attending they should at least hand the Froyotech/Se7en name/branding to another team just for the event. The idea of one of the main tourneys of the entire LAN not having the best teams in the world is so fucking disappointing.[/quote]
Why would you want a mediocre team to represent a "prestigious" brand? I'm actually having a hard time thinking of one good reason that could be appropriate.
[quote=Dolly]In this day and age (More so in eu) I would cut players who wouldn't go to lan, just because it causes more problems long term with roster shuffles, and winning a season means nothing compared to world championships where you can make decent money.[/quote]
In this day and age? Why would you cut somebody because they can't or don't want to go to the 1-2 small and unprofessional lans that happen per year, especially when there are so few replacement options at the top level of tf2? That day and age past years ago when esea LAN died. I think you have it backwards, in which you should only really be cutting players for not being able to go to LAN if most tournaments were LAN-based like bigger games.
I have no words to describe how dumb it is to think a team should uphold a standard of going to lans in a video game that has 0 money and extremely little competition. You guys are acting like tf2 is a real esport. If a team doesn't [i]want[/i] to go, that's enough reason to not go
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