What monitors support 144hz/120hz over hdmi?

#1

krakow

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I bought an hp laptop on sale to replace my aging macbook and would like to be able to run tf2 at greater than 60hz.

CPU: Intel i5 7300-HQ @ 2.5 ghz
GPU: GTX 1050
Ports: HDMI 2.0, no dvi or displayport ports

I've been looking online and can't seem to find any monitors that support 120hz or 144hz over hdmi. Am I doomed to
60hz or are there any new monitors that support a higher refresh rate through hdmi 2.0? Thanks

EDIT: I play at 1024 by 768, if that matters at all

I bought an hp laptop on sale to replace my aging macbook and would like to be able to run tf2 at greater than 60hz.

CPU: Intel i5 7300-HQ @ 2.5 ghz
GPU: GTX 1050
Ports: HDMI 2.0, no dvi or displayport ports

I've been looking online and can't seem to find any monitors that support 120hz or 144hz over hdmi. Am I doomed to
60hz or are there any new monitors that support a higher refresh rate through hdmi 2.0? Thanks

EDIT: I play at 1024 by 768, if that matters at all

#2

bleghfarec

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any monitor at 144hz/120hz should be able to run at their highest refresh rate with HDMI as long as the port is 2.0 or 2.1.

theres a thread for 144hz/120hz monitors if you want to look through it http://www.teamfortress.tv/331/the-120hz-monitor-thread

any monitor at 144hz/120hz should be able to run at their highest refresh rate with HDMI as long as the port is 2.0 or 2.1.

theres a thread for 144hz/120hz monitors if you want to look through it http://www.teamfortress.tv/331/the-120hz-monitor-thread

#3

krakow

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the specification for the AOC G2460PF on amazon states "@144Hz for DVI Dual Link and DP only"

the ASUS VG248QE states "To activate 144Hz function (in 2D mode), both DisplayPort (or Dual-link DVI) and a selected graphics card with the latest driver are required."

It doesn't look like these monitors can run at 144hz with HDMI? or is it because HDMI 1.3/1.4 didn't support higher hz when these monitors were originally released?

the specification for the AOC G2460PF on amazon states "@144Hz for DVI Dual Link and DP only"

the ASUS VG248QE states "To activate 144Hz function (in 2D mode), both DisplayPort (or Dual-link DVI) and a selected graphics card with the latest driver are required."

It doesn't look like these monitors can run at 144hz with HDMI? or is it because HDMI 1.3/1.4 didn't support higher hz when these monitors were originally released?

#4

bleghfarec

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If you're looking at the first page, then yeah it's quite outdated.

But as long as a monitor lists that it has the HDMI 2.0 specification and it can run 144hz, it should be able to run that refresh rate with HDMI.

If you can't find an HDMI 2.0 144hz monitor at a reasonable price, you could try legging it with an HDMI 2.0 to Displayport 1.2 converter for around $30.

If you're looking at the first page, then yeah it's quite outdated.

But as long as a monitor lists that it has the HDMI 2.0 specification and it can run 144hz, it should be able to run that refresh rate with HDMI.

If you can't find an HDMI 2.0 144hz monitor at a reasonable price, you could try legging it with an HDMI 2.0 to Displayport 1.2 converter for around $30.

#5

kbto

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#6

krakow

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Whats a display hub? The laptop comes with an IPS with very poor response time so I can't imagine running through hdmi being much worse.

#7

Setsul

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Are you sure it's HMDI 2.0 though?
On most laptops the outputs of the dGPU are routed through the iGPU.
I mean you're lucky enough to have a Kaby Lake CPU that is guaranteed to support 2.0 (not all are) but the drivers are incredily wonky so it might not work.

Nonetheless there are some. Almost all of them are not of the "cheap 1080p 24" 144 Hz TN panel" variety.
27" 1080p: Acer Predator XZ271bmijpphzx (VA)
27" 1440p: Acer XF270HUAbmiidprzx (IPS), Acer XF270HUbmijdprz (IPS), ASUS MG278Q (TN), BenQ Zowie XL2735 (TN)
31.5" 1080p: Acer XZ321Qbmijpphzx (VA)
31.5" 1440p: AOC Agon AG322QCX (VA)
2560x1080 ultrawide monitors:
34": LG 34UC79G-B, LG 34UC89G-B (both IPS)
35": Acer XZ350CUbmijphz, AOC C3583FQ (both VA)

And some 240 Hz 24.5" 1080p TN panels:
AOC Agon AG251FZ, BenQ Zowie XL2540, ViewSonic XG2530

This is by no means an exhaustive list.
You can build a pc with a faster CPU than your laptop's and buy a cheap 24" 144 Hz TN panel monitor for the same price as most of these monitors though.

#5
That's bullshit, converting the signal only adds even more latency.

Are you sure it's HMDI 2.0 though?
On most laptops the outputs of the dGPU are routed through the iGPU.
I mean you're lucky enough to have a Kaby Lake CPU that is guaranteed to support 2.0 (not all are) but the drivers are incredily wonky so it might not work.

Nonetheless there are some. Almost all of them are not of the "cheap 1080p 24" 144 Hz TN panel" variety.
27" 1080p: Acer Predator XZ271bmijpphzx (VA)
27" 1440p: Acer XF270HUAbmiidprzx (IPS), Acer XF270HUbmijdprz (IPS), ASUS MG278Q (TN), BenQ Zowie XL2735 (TN)
31.5" 1080p: Acer XZ321Qbmijpphzx (VA)
31.5" 1440p: AOC Agon AG322QCX (VA)
2560x1080 ultrawide monitors:
34": LG 34UC79G-B, LG 34UC89G-B (both IPS)
35": Acer XZ350CUbmijphz, AOC C3583FQ (both VA)

And some 240 Hz 24.5" 1080p TN panels:
AOC Agon AG251FZ, BenQ Zowie XL2540, ViewSonic XG2530

This is by no means an exhaustive list.
You can build a pc with a faster CPU than your laptop's and buy a cheap 24" 144 Hz TN panel monitor for the same price as most of these monitors though.

#5
That's bullshit, converting the signal only adds even more latency.

#8

krakow

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The instruction manual states that the port is HDMI 2.0, so I'm hoping thats correct. Would nvidia optimus be a problem getting a higher refresh rate if I only use the external display?

SetsulNonetheless there are some. Almost all of them are not of the "cheap 1080p 24" 144 Hz TN panel" variety.

Looking on amazon and newegg I see that some monitors released late 2015/early 2016 (ViewSonic XG2401, Nixeus NX-VUE24A, AOC G2460PF) can go up to 120hz via HDMI although only the viewsonic XG2401 has reviews confirming this. I'm thinking maybe I just get the ViewSonic XG2401.

The instruction manual states that the port is HDMI 2.0, so I'm hoping thats correct. Would nvidia optimus be a problem getting a higher refresh rate if I only use the external display?

[quote=Setsul]
Nonetheless there are some. Almost all of them are not of the "cheap 1080p 24" 144 Hz TN panel" variety.
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Looking on amazon and newegg I see that some monitors released late 2015/early 2016 (ViewSonic XG2401, Nixeus NX-VUE24A, AOC G2460PF) can go up to 120hz via HDMI although only the viewsonic XG2401 has reviews confirming this. I'm thinking maybe I just get the ViewSonic XG2401.

#9

Setsul

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The AOC G2460PF does not support 120/144 via HDMI according to its manual.
No idea about the Nixeus.
The ViewSonic XG2401 uses HDMI 1.4, which supports only 120, not 144 Hz and doesn't come with an HDMI cable for the same reason. Out of the 3 I'd say it's still the most likely to work (for 120 Hz) as it doesn't require HDMI 2.0.

NVidia Optimus means exactly what I suspected. The dGPU is routed through the iGPU. In theory both 120/144 Hz and HDMI 2.0 (since Kaby Lake) are supported by Intel, but in theory the Intel graphics drivers support a lot of things that don't end up working.

I wish you the best of luck, but frankly I've never seen the point of such setups. You're always going to have rather significant latency due to the iGPU/dGPU routing and have neither the CPU (for TF2) nor the GPU (for other games) to make a 120/144 Hz monitor a worthwhile investment.

The AOC G2460PF does not support 120/144 via HDMI according to its manual.
No idea about the Nixeus.
The ViewSonic XG2401 uses HDMI 1.4, which supports only 120, not 144 Hz and doesn't come with an HDMI cable for the same reason. Out of the 3 I'd say it's still the most likely to work (for 120 Hz) as it doesn't require HDMI 2.0.

NVidia Optimus means exactly what I suspected. The dGPU is routed through the iGPU. In theory both 120/144 Hz and HDMI 2.0 (since Kaby Lake) are supported by Intel, but in theory the Intel graphics drivers support a lot of things that don't end up working.

I wish you the best of luck, but frankly I've never seen the point of such setups. You're always going to have rather significant latency due to the iGPU/dGPU routing and have neither the CPU (for TF2) nor the GPU (for other games) to make a 120/144 Hz monitor a worthwhile investment.

#10

kunjikeith0704

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OP, did you ever find a monitor that could run 120Hz+ through HDMI 2.0?

I am in the same boat, but for different reasons. Don't want to threadjack here, so the details of my situation are here for those interested: https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/120hz-refresh-through-hdmi-2-0-scientist-here-please-help.24919/#post-366122

Thanks in advance!

OP, did you ever find a monitor that could run 120Hz+ through HDMI 2.0?

I am in the same boat, but for different reasons. Don't want to threadjack here, so the details of my situation are here for those interested: https://insider.razerzone.com/index.php?threads/120hz-refresh-through-hdmi-2-0-scientist-here-please-help.24919/#post-366122

Thanks in advance!

#11

Setsul

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No one is going to post on that forum so it's still effectively threadjacking.

You don't need 2.0. HDMI 1.4 got enough bandwidth for 1920x1080 at 120 Hz.

This isn't that complicated.
You have the VG248QE. Why didn't you just check the manual?
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/LCD%20Monitors/VG248/VG248_English.pdf
Page 1-3.

Only DisplayPort and DVI ports support 3D feature given NVIDIA 3D
Vision Kit is available.

Some monitors are listed here
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html
For other monitors just see what the manual says.

No one is going to post on that forum so it's still effectively threadjacking.

You don't need 2.0. HDMI 1.4 got enough bandwidth for 1920x1080 at 120 Hz.

This isn't that complicated.
You have the VG248QE. Why didn't you just check the manual?
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/LCD%20Monitors/VG248/VG248_English.pdf
Page 1-3.
[quote]Only DisplayPort and DVI ports support 3D feature given NVIDIA 3D
Vision Kit is available.[/quote]

Some monitors are listed here
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-system-requirements.html
For other monitors just see what the manual says.