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didn't know USA had a football team
at least argentina is participating right? RIGHT?
edit: Even iceland made it! wtf usa
didn't know USA had a football team
at least argentina is participating right? RIGHT?
edit: Even iceland made it! wtf usa
at least argentina is participating right? RIGHT?
edit: Even iceland made it! wtf usa
fuck usa
chile is dead too
killed by brazil again
rip golden era of chile
we will have to go to work now
fuck usa
chile is dead too
killed by brazil again
rip golden era of chile
we will have to go to work now
chile is dead too
killed by brazil again
rip golden era of chile
we will have to go to work now
It's like deciding to play invite. You don't expect to make it far anyways.
It's like deciding to play invite. You don't expect to make it far anyways.
fuck u we have the nba and baseball its all we need
fuck u we have the nba and baseball its all we need
sagedidn't know USA had a football team
at least argentina is participating right? RIGHT?
edit: Even iceland made it! wtf usa
Iceland actually have a good team, their defense was quite impressive during the EURO
[quote=sage]didn't know USA had a football team
at least argentina is participating right? RIGHT?
edit: Even iceland made it! wtf usa[/quote]
Iceland actually have a good team, their defense was quite impressive during the EURO
at least argentina is participating right? RIGHT?
edit: Even iceland made it! wtf usa[/quote]
Iceland actually have a good team, their defense was quite impressive during the EURO
thank goodness we win everything else related to athletics :)
thank goodness we win everything else related to athletics :)
We haven't qualified for a major tournament in 19 years mate
We haven't qualified for a major tournament in 19 years mate
we lost to Trinidad and Tobogo.
what the actual fuck
we lost to Trinidad and Tobogo.
what the actual fuck
what the actual fuck
Don't USA only have to play against shitters and Mexico ?
Don't USA only have to play against shitters and Mexico ?
bLathank goodness we win everything else related to athletics :)
so i dreamed that NZ won the 2015 Rugby World Cup
and australia the 2015 Cricket World Cup
and fuck i just googled and USA didnt even with the 2014 hockey world cup :thinking:
even weirder... USA didnt even win baseball world cup in 2011? I don't know anything about baseball apart from americans love it but its a world cup and USA didnt win... what else does USA even play lol
[quote=bLa]thank goodness we win everything else related to athletics :)[/quote]
so i dreamed that NZ won the 2015 Rugby World Cup
and australia the 2015 Cricket World Cup
and fuck i just googled and USA didnt even with the 2014 hockey world cup :thinking:
even weirder... USA didnt even win baseball world cup in 2011? I don't know anything about baseball apart from americans love it but its a world cup and USA didnt win... what else does USA even play lol
so i dreamed that NZ won the 2015 Rugby World Cup
and australia the 2015 Cricket World Cup
and fuck i just googled and USA didnt even with the 2014 hockey world cup :thinking:
even weirder... USA didnt even win baseball world cup in 2011? I don't know anything about baseball apart from americans love it but its a world cup and USA didnt win... what else does USA even play lol
riotbzbLathank goodness we win everything else related to athletics :)so i dreamed that NZ won the 2015 Rugby World Cup
and australia the 2015 Cricket World Cup
and fuck i just googled and USA didnt even with the 2014 hockey world cup :thinking:
even weirder... USA didnt even win baseball world cup in 2011? I don't know anything about baseball apart from americans love it but its a world cup and USA didnt win... what else does USA even play lol
the other guy is an idiot but just fyi one of the reasons the baseball world classic is competitive is that a lot of american teams forbid their players from going to play it safe from injuries (however this does apply to a lot of dominican/mexican/cuban players too)
as you were
[quote=riotbz][quote=bLa]thank goodness we win everything else related to athletics :)[/quote]
so i dreamed that NZ won the 2015 Rugby World Cup
and australia the 2015 Cricket World Cup
and fuck i just googled and USA didnt even with the 2014 hockey world cup :thinking:
even weirder... USA didnt even win baseball world cup in 2011? I don't know anything about baseball apart from americans love it but its a world cup and USA didnt win... what else does USA even play lol[/quote]
the other guy is an idiot but just fyi one of the reasons the baseball world classic is competitive is that a lot of american teams forbid their players from going to play it safe from injuries (however this does apply to a lot of dominican/mexican/cuban players too)
as you were
so i dreamed that NZ won the 2015 Rugby World Cup
and australia the 2015 Cricket World Cup
and fuck i just googled and USA didnt even with the 2014 hockey world cup :thinking:
even weirder... USA didnt even win baseball world cup in 2011? I don't know anything about baseball apart from americans love it but its a world cup and USA didnt win... what else does USA even play lol[/quote]
the other guy is an idiot but just fyi one of the reasons the baseball world classic is competitive is that a lot of american teams forbid their players from going to play it safe from injuries (however this does apply to a lot of dominican/mexican/cuban players too)
as you were
glassriotbzthe other guy is an idiot but just fyi one of the reasons the baseball world classic is competitive is that a lot of american teams forbid their players from going to play it safe from injuries (however this does apply to a lot of dominican/mexican/cuban players too)bLathank goodness we win everything else related to athletics :)so i dreamed that NZ won the 2015 Rugby World Cup
and australia the 2015 Cricket World Cup
and fuck i just googled and USA didnt even with the 2014 hockey world cup :thinking:
even weirder... USA didnt even win baseball world cup in 2011? I don't know anything about baseball apart from americans love it but its a world cup and USA didnt win... what else does USA even play lol
as you were
That's so American: a world classic for a sport most countries don't play or care about.
[quote=glass][quote=riotbz][quote=bLa]thank goodness we win everything else related to athletics :)[/quote]
so i dreamed that NZ won the 2015 Rugby World Cup
and australia the 2015 Cricket World Cup
and fuck i just googled and USA didnt even with the 2014 hockey world cup :thinking:
even weirder... USA didnt even win baseball world cup in 2011? I don't know anything about baseball apart from americans love it but its a world cup and USA didnt win... what else does USA even play lol[/quote]
the other guy is an idiot but just fyi one of the reasons the baseball world classic is competitive is that a lot of american teams forbid their players from going to play it safe from injuries (however this does apply to a lot of dominican/mexican/cuban players too)
as you were[/quote]
That's so American: a world classic for a sport most countries don't play or care about.
so i dreamed that NZ won the 2015 Rugby World Cup
and australia the 2015 Cricket World Cup
and fuck i just googled and USA didnt even with the 2014 hockey world cup :thinking:
even weirder... USA didnt even win baseball world cup in 2011? I don't know anything about baseball apart from americans love it but its a world cup and USA didnt win... what else does USA even play lol[/quote]
the other guy is an idiot but just fyi one of the reasons the baseball world classic is competitive is that a lot of american teams forbid their players from going to play it safe from injuries (however this does apply to a lot of dominican/mexican/cuban players too)
as you were[/quote]
That's so American: a world classic for a sport most countries don't play or care about.
Really embarrassing for the USMNT. It just highlights how much work still needs to be done to compete on the world stage if we can't qualify in such a weak conference. I am a hockey guy and with the exception of Philadelphia Flyers Playoff Hockey, nothing gets me more pumped up than the USA during World Cup. This is a major let down for me, I was looking forward to this.
Even though USA Soccer is still growing, it will always suck that our more gifted athletes will always be drawn to other sports at young ages like Football/Baseball/Basketball. Our young athletes have so many options for sports compared to most other countries who focus everything on Soccer from a young age.
I don't think it would be a stretch of the imagination to say the USA would have one of the best worldwide soccer teams every year if our top athletes were focused on that sport.
Really embarrassing for the USMNT. It just highlights how much work still needs to be done to compete on the world stage if we can't qualify in such a weak conference. I am a hockey guy and with the exception of Philadelphia Flyers Playoff Hockey, nothing gets me more pumped up than the USA during World Cup. This is a major let down for me, I was looking forward to this.
Even though USA Soccer is still growing, it will always suck that our more gifted athletes will always be drawn to other sports at young ages like Football/Baseball/Basketball. Our young athletes have so many options for sports compared to most other countries who focus everything on Soccer from a young age.
I don't think it would be a stretch of the imagination to say the USA would have one of the best worldwide soccer teams every year if our top athletes were focused on that sport.
Even though USA Soccer is still growing, it will always suck that our more gifted athletes will always be drawn to other sports at young ages like Football/Baseball/Basketball. Our young athletes have so many options for sports compared to most other countries who focus everything on Soccer from a young age.
I don't think it would be a stretch of the imagination to say the USA would have one of the best worldwide soccer teams every year if our top athletes were focused on that sport.
SpaceCadetReally embarrassing for the USMNT. It just highlights how much work still needs to be done to compete on the world stage if we can't qualify in such a weak conference.
Even though USA Soccer is still growing, it will always suck that our more gifted athletes will always be drawn to other sports at young ages like Football/Baseball/Basketball. Our young athletes have so many options for sports compared to most other countries who focus everything on Soccer from a young age.
I don't think it would be a stretch of the imagination to say the USA would have one of the best worldwide soccer teams every year if our top athletes were focused on that sport.
american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.
[quote=SpaceCadet]Really embarrassing for the USMNT. It just highlights how much work still needs to be done to compete on the world stage if we can't qualify in such a weak conference.
Even though USA Soccer is still growing, it will always suck that our more gifted athletes will always be drawn to other sports at young ages like Football/Baseball/Basketball. Our young athletes have so many options for sports compared to most other countries who focus everything on Soccer from a young age.
I don't think it would be a stretch of the imagination to say the USA would have one of the best worldwide soccer teams every year if our top athletes were focused on that sport.[/quote]
american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.
Even though USA Soccer is still growing, it will always suck that our more gifted athletes will always be drawn to other sports at young ages like Football/Baseball/Basketball. Our young athletes have so many options for sports compared to most other countries who focus everything on Soccer from a young age.
I don't think it would be a stretch of the imagination to say the USA would have one of the best worldwide soccer teams every year if our top athletes were focused on that sport.[/quote]
american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.
dot_american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.
think its do with size of pitches & equipment too - u dont really need a big place to play bball or expensive boots u wear once a week
[quote=dot_]american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.[/quote]
think its do with size of pitches & equipment too - u dont really need a big place to play bball or expensive boots u wear once a week
think its do with size of pitches & equipment too - u dont really need a big place to play bball or expensive boots u wear once a week
It also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".
It also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".
SpaceCadetIt also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.
[quote=SpaceCadet]It also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".[/quote]
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".[/quote]
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.
rocketslayPULISIC DOESN'T DESERVE THIS
he could have played for Croatia... but chose to play for the US. D:
[quote=rocketslay]PULISIC DOESN'T DESERVE THIS[/quote]
he could have played for Croatia... but chose to play for the US. D:
he could have played for Croatia... but chose to play for the US. D:
HildrethSpaceCadetIt also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.
Must be even more difficult considering your most recent World Cup performances. There is an English commentator who has the perfect voice and knowledge for the really big international matches that get shown on TV. I forget his name but he has been around forever and it always the go-to guy for any big matchup. Any chance you know who I am talking about?
Over time, I think the US team will continue to grow and learn. There are new soccer leagues popping up all over and its way more noticeable today than when I was a kid. That's some progress in the right direction, even if that is over 20 years ago.
For myself, Hockey will always be my #1 sport. I can watch it anytime and be involved in the game even if my team is not playing. Playoff hockey is on another level and the most exciting. Playoff Baseball is a close second in excitement, especially when your team is involved. You hang on every single pitch and the feeling is stretched out for such a long game. However, Soccer has grown on me in the past 10 years and I really enjoy watching the national teams duke it out, it doesn't even have to be the USA team for me to enjoy watching soccer.
The biggest problem I have with watching soccer here in the US, its the camera angles. When you watch the World Cup or Premier matches, the camera angles are very wide and cover the entire field from top to bottom. That means you can see a player making a run away from the ball on the far side and anticipate watching the entire play develop around that run. If you watch MLS soccer, the camera angles are more suited to American Football and they focus in on guy who has the ball. You cannot see the players on the far sides who are making runs and completely forget about trying to see an offside.
[quote=Hildreth][quote=SpaceCadet]It also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".[/quote]
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.[/quote]
Must be even more difficult considering your most recent World Cup performances. There is an English commentator who has the perfect voice and knowledge for the really big international matches that get shown on TV. I forget his name but he has been around forever and it always the go-to guy for any big matchup. Any chance you know who I am talking about?
Over time, I think the US team will continue to grow and learn. There are new soccer leagues popping up all over and its way more noticeable today than when I was a kid. That's some progress in the right direction, even if that is over 20 years ago.
For myself, Hockey will always be my #1 sport. I can watch it anytime and be involved in the game even if my team is not playing. Playoff hockey is on another level and the most exciting. Playoff Baseball is a close second in excitement, especially when your team is involved. You hang on every single pitch and the feeling is stretched out for such a long game. However, Soccer has grown on me in the past 10 years and I really enjoy watching the national teams duke it out, it doesn't even have to be the USA team for me to enjoy watching soccer.
The biggest problem I have with watching soccer here in the US, its the camera angles. When you watch the World Cup or Premier matches, the camera angles are very wide and cover the entire field from top to bottom. That means you can see a player making a run away from the ball on the far side and anticipate watching the entire play develop around that run. If you watch MLS soccer, the camera angles are more suited to American Football and they focus in on guy who has the ball. You cannot see the players on the far sides who are making runs and completely forget about trying to see an offside.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".[/quote]
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.[/quote]
Must be even more difficult considering your most recent World Cup performances. There is an English commentator who has the perfect voice and knowledge for the really big international matches that get shown on TV. I forget his name but he has been around forever and it always the go-to guy for any big matchup. Any chance you know who I am talking about?
Over time, I think the US team will continue to grow and learn. There are new soccer leagues popping up all over and its way more noticeable today than when I was a kid. That's some progress in the right direction, even if that is over 20 years ago.
For myself, Hockey will always be my #1 sport. I can watch it anytime and be involved in the game even if my team is not playing. Playoff hockey is on another level and the most exciting. Playoff Baseball is a close second in excitement, especially when your team is involved. You hang on every single pitch and the feeling is stretched out for such a long game. However, Soccer has grown on me in the past 10 years and I really enjoy watching the national teams duke it out, it doesn't even have to be the USA team for me to enjoy watching soccer.
The biggest problem I have with watching soccer here in the US, its the camera angles. When you watch the World Cup or Premier matches, the camera angles are very wide and cover the entire field from top to bottom. That means you can see a player making a run away from the ball on the far side and anticipate watching the entire play develop around that run. If you watch MLS soccer, the camera angles are more suited to American Football and they focus in on guy who has the ball. You cannot see the players on the far sides who are making runs and completely forget about trying to see an offside.
a population of 320 millions loses against some dude called Trinidad and his friend Tobago
a population of 320 millions loses against some dude called Trinidad and his friend Tobago
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dot_american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.
Yeah I agree, I play academy soccer and its very expensive going to different states for games and such. Thankfully I'm in a position where the money isn't really an issue but I definitely do know some people who could make it if it wasn't for such a shitty system and the costs
[quote=dot_]
american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.[/quote]
Yeah I agree, I play academy soccer and its very expensive going to different states for games and such. Thankfully I'm in a position where the money isn't really an issue but I definitely do know some people who could make it if it wasn't for such a shitty system and the costs
american soccer sucks because of how poor it's youth camps and systems are. In the US soccer is mostly for rich people, yearly traveling team fees are usually over like 15k. When you look at that vs. where most kids who grow up to be these nba and nfl stars are coming from its not a big surprise.[/quote]
Yeah I agree, I play academy soccer and its very expensive going to different states for games and such. Thankfully I'm in a position where the money isn't really an issue but I definitely do know some people who could make it if it wasn't for such a shitty system and the costs
HildrethSpaceCadetIt also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.
Perhaps paradoxically, I think there has also built up a kind of apathy to our national team.
We witnessed the golden generation do absolutely fuck all despite having maybe 4 or 5 world class players, and every team since has been pretty abject and dull. By now I think we're used to disappointment and we're starting to not care. I think the criticism is an almost loathing- we mock and chastise our team because of years of disappointment rather than just the current crop (even though our current crop is pap compared to previous)
...about the national team. We fucking love club football of course.
[quote=Hildreth][quote=SpaceCadet]It also has to do with the mentality of US sports fans in relation to soccer. It is basically treated as a win/win situation no matter what happens.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".[/quote]
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.[/quote]
Perhaps paradoxically, I think there has also built up a kind of apathy to our national team.
We witnessed the golden generation do absolutely fuck all despite having maybe 4 or 5 world class players, and every team since has been pretty abject and dull. By now I think we're used to disappointment and we're starting to not care. I think the criticism is an almost loathing- we mock and chastise our team because of years of disappointment rather than just the current crop (even though our current crop is pap compared to previous)
...about the national team. We fucking love club football of course.
If the USMNT wins, people become "big fans" and say stupid shit about how the USA can beat other countries in soccer when we don't really care about it or that its not our #1 sport.
If the USMNT losses, those same people say that "soccer sucks" or "Its only soccer, we don't care about that sport here".[/quote]
A country like USA is so different culturally when it comes to football. Looking over your team is a pretty average, still calling up Jonathon Spector, without Donovan / Dempsey I don't see where the quality is in that team - Though granted losing to Trinidad and Tobago probably should not happen.
For England it's different, football is part of our national identity as the inventors of Association Football, losing to Iceland was deemed a national embarrassment, even losing to USA in 1950 World Cup was deemed the worst result in English football history (prior to last year), our media hammers our National team on a consistent basis. I mean we managed to win our group as expected and the team gets criticized for not winning the group with style, there is very little pleasing our media and as a result, our national expectations are raised to an unprecedented level every year.[/quote]
Perhaps paradoxically, I think there has also built up a kind of apathy to our national team.
We witnessed the golden generation do absolutely fuck all despite having maybe 4 or 5 world class players, and every team since has been pretty abject and dull. By now I think we're used to disappointment and we're starting to not care. I think the criticism is an almost loathing- we mock and chastise our team because of years of disappointment rather than just the current crop (even though our current crop is pap compared to previous)
...about the national team. We fucking love club football of course.
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