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ETF2L Allow potential cheater to play in Playoffs
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TimTumwtzAlfieeveryone post all the dirt you have on ETF2LAlle in low
note: admins didn't actually make him stop
http://etf2l.org/matches/71821/
well after the third week they posted that he was only allowed to play medic for the rest of the season for that team, which is fair enough
admin told me that alle himself made this decision and not them but in what world would u let a prem player play in low on any class and take 3 weeks to realise how dumb it is
[quote=TimTum][quote=wtz][quote=Alfie]everyone post all the dirt you have on ETF2L[/quote]
Alle in low
note: admins didn't actually make him stop[/quote]
http://etf2l.org/matches/71821/
well after the third week they posted that he was only allowed to play medic for the rest of the season for that team, which is fair enough[/quote]
admin told me that alle himself made this decision and not them but in what world would u let a prem player play in low on any class and take 3 weeks to realise how dumb it is
Alle in low
note: admins didn't actually make him stop[/quote]
http://etf2l.org/matches/71821/
well after the third week they posted that he was only allowed to play medic for the rest of the season for that team, which is fair enough[/quote]
admin told me that alle himself made this decision and not them but in what world would u let a prem player play in low on any class and take 3 weeks to realise how dumb it is
"it would be fairer extending this ban to all dm-classes."
Clearly they haven't seen him try to play scout.
"it would be fairer extending this ban to all dm-classes."
Clearly they haven't seen him try to play scout.
Clearly they haven't seen him try to play scout.
You'd think that now when there's actual money on the line, bans on prem players would take immediate effect. As someone said earlier in the thread allowing a to be banned player to play all of playoffs in a cash-tournament seems fairly irresponsible.
You'd think that now when there's actual [i]money[/i] on the line, bans on prem players would take immediate effect. As someone said earlier in the thread allowing a to be banned player to play all of playoffs in a cash-tournament seems fairly irresponsible.
Good evening!
We will not ban the aforementioned player right away. We will apply the rules and policies on this case like we have done in the past and thus act consistent in our ruling. Our last banpost was published on 9th march, which is fairly recent. We will ban the player for almost the entirety of season 30.
Please note that this is no "special treatment" of anyone. On the contrary: If we were to ban him right now, that would be a special treatment.
The player in question cannot simply blatantly cheat in his remaining playoff games. There are other ways to prove someone is cheating than watching a POV, it just makes things much easier. Furthermore, if he fails to upload again (and lets be honest, there will be demorequests in playoffs) then we will ban him for a whole year.
Is our policy perfect? No, but it is what has been applied for years and we are not going to change the rules right now. You never change a rule in order to apply it immediately. That is arbitrary and absolutely leads to total chaos and individual targetting. That being said, interesting points have been raised during this discussion. We are already and will be discussing ways to handle this differently - better - in future seasons and competitions. So thank you! (:
Cu@, Stinson_Out
Good evening!
We will not ban the aforementioned player right away. We will apply the rules and policies on this case like we have done in the past and thus act consistent in our ruling. Our last banpost was published on 9th march, which is fairly recent. We will ban the player for almost the entirety of season 30.
Please note that this is no "special treatment" of anyone. On the contrary: If we were to ban him right now, that would be a special treatment.
The player in question cannot simply blatantly cheat in his remaining playoff games. There are other ways to prove someone is cheating than watching a POV, it just makes things much easier. Furthermore, if he fails to upload again (and lets be honest, there will be demorequests in playoffs) then we will ban him for a whole year.
Is our policy perfect? No, but it is what has been applied for years and we are not going to change the rules right now. You never change a rule in order to apply it immediately. That is arbitrary and absolutely leads to total chaos and individual targetting. That being said, interesting points have been raised during this discussion. We are already and will be discussing ways to handle this differently - better - in future seasons and competitions. So thank you! (:
Cu@, Stinson_Out
We will not ban the aforementioned player right away. We will apply the rules and policies on this case like we have done in the past and thus act consistent in our ruling. Our last banpost was published on 9th march, which is fairly recent. We will ban the player for almost the entirety of season 30.
Please note that this is no "special treatment" of anyone. On the contrary: If we were to ban him right now, that would be a special treatment.
The player in question cannot simply blatantly cheat in his remaining playoff games. There are other ways to prove someone is cheating than watching a POV, it just makes things much easier. Furthermore, if he fails to upload again (and lets be honest, there will be demorequests in playoffs) then we will ban him for a whole year.
Is our policy perfect? No, but it is what has been applied for years and we are not going to change the rules right now. You never change a rule in order to apply it immediately. That is arbitrary and absolutely leads to total chaos and individual targetting. That being said, interesting points have been raised during this discussion. We are already and will be discussing ways to handle this differently - better - in future seasons and competitions. So thank you! (:
Cu@, Stinson_Out
AndKennethI blame Permzilla.
somehow still feels like my fault
[quote=AndKenneth]I blame Permzilla.[/quote]
somehow still feels like my fault
somehow still feels like my fault
PermzillaAndKennethI blame Permzilla.
somehow still feels like my fault
I'd say letting 3 weeaboos take control of the league automatically puts the fault on the former admins
[quote=Permzilla][quote=AndKenneth]I blame Permzilla.[/quote]
somehow still feels like my fault[/quote]
I'd say letting 3 weeaboos take control of the league automatically puts the fault on the former admins
somehow still feels like my fault[/quote]
I'd say letting 3 weeaboos take control of the league automatically puts the fault on the former admins
wtzTimTumadmin told me that alle himself made this decision and not them but in what world would u let a prem player play in low on any class and take 3 weeks to realise how dumb it iswtzAlfieeveryone post all the dirt you have on ETF2LAlle in low
note: admins didn't actually make him stop
http://etf2l.org/matches/71821/
well after the third week they posted that he was only allowed to play medic for the rest of the season for that team, which is fair enough
apparently LEGO is also allowed to mainclass in div 2 after losing the second map of a playoffs game
Map 2 when people were still offclassing: http://logs.tf/1989042
Map 3: http://logs.tf/1989062 (sorex scout, Dr. Phil demo and cmd on medic)
[quote=wtz][quote=TimTum][quote=wtz][quote=Alfie]everyone post all the dirt you have on ETF2L[/quote]
Alle in low
note: admins didn't actually make him stop[/quote]
http://etf2l.org/matches/71821/
well after the third week they posted that he was only allowed to play medic for the rest of the season for that team, which is fair enough[/quote]
admin told me that alle himself made this decision and not them but in what world would u let a prem player play in low on any class and take 3 weeks to realise how dumb it is[/quote]
apparently LEGO is also allowed to mainclass in div 2 after losing the second map of a playoffs game
Map 2 when people were still offclassing: http://logs.tf/1989042
Map 3: http://logs.tf/1989062 (sorex scout, Dr. Phil demo and cmd on medic)
Alle in low
note: admins didn't actually make him stop[/quote]
http://etf2l.org/matches/71821/
well after the third week they posted that he was only allowed to play medic for the rest of the season for that team, which is fair enough[/quote]
admin told me that alle himself made this decision and not them but in what world would u let a prem player play in low on any class and take 3 weeks to realise how dumb it is[/quote]
apparently LEGO is also allowed to mainclass in div 2 after losing the second map of a playoffs game
Map 2 when people were still offclassing: http://logs.tf/1989042
Map 3: http://logs.tf/1989062 (sorex scout, Dr. Phil demo and cmd on medic)
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