The reason the pistol is essential is because if you're beefing your scattergun shots you can use the automatic pistol to track your enemies and have more wiggle room to miss.
Your idea just gives more room to beef with the primary.

remove dmg boost on winger and add no spread

yeah let's make scout even better than he already is what a great concept

pretty much nobody likes playing against snipers but something completely accurate that you can spam a lot would need to get the treatment heavy gets against scoped snipers, at mid+ range make it so normal and scoped viewkick isnt a thing for it

it wouldnt be better thats the point of the thread itll just make sense. if u aim any wep in any fps game properly it should hit

and also most scouts hit 3/4 pistol anyway right now and wat is being suggested in this thread is basically a nerf because they would lose that damage they are already doing for acc they dont need

the reason the pistol is not overpowered is because it isn't accurate

It's not complicated, is it?

Multiply damage by current average pistol damage divided by (average bodyshot damage*%average bodyshot hit rate+average headshot damage*%average headshot hit rate). Use revolvers or whatever to get accuracy figures.

Of course it will only be balanced for the playerbase used to determine accuracy. But that's the point of making it accurate right?

i think if u aim the pistol in the middle of the model the spread doesnt even matter

if u trade less damage dor accuracy its not overpowered

give scout a lightning gun

nerf scout
buff demo

It's got to have a maximum range or else kritz pistol across the map would be a problem

problem is pistol is used after dumping ur scattergun clip. if ur not a shitter at scout (which i am lol) then you shouldn't need to hit someone for much more than half their health after shooting ur 6 scatter shots. 60 should be plenty to finish off someone.
if u give pistol perfect accuracy, after 1 clip your scout fight is over.
hm. might not be so "op", but still pretty fucking good IMO.

ppl use that same reasoning for not runnimg shotgun and i dont get it. ur shooting multiple ppl 6 shots isnt enough to kill 4 ppl thats why u need a secondary

i'm gonna need you to explain to me how the "use your secondary to finish off people if your primary isn't enough" a good reasoning to argue against secondaries, because i'm not sure i understand here

not finish ppl off but shoot more ppl

idk i think yr just confused idk how to be more clear

probably gonna get downfragged for this one but i think the pistol is fine the way it is

with that being said, it'd probably STILL be fine if you just lowered the damage output on it like others have mentioned

pistol is fine the way it is, I would just either reduce scattergun's firerate or reduce the clip to 4

it is fine the way it is this thread makes it sound like te spread is a bigger issue than it is but it would be nice to reliably have the same kind of success with any wep

is this satire

personally I dont think stock pistol should be changed but it would be cool to see a 100% accurate pistol.

he started the "you know they're a scout main" thread, so probably not

kill this awful thread

if this would be a thing they'd have to nerf damage or have damage fall off

getting pistol-spammed by retard scouts as a demo during mids is annoying enough already

this thread is almost as pointless as the nerf pyro threads that pop up every other month, if not every month
valve's not going to do anything that isn't absolute garbage (granted 100% accuracy pistol fits neatly into that category)

I just wish the pistol was improved just enough for it to be more reliable rng-wise, and whatever change to make it a bit more fair alternative for winger. Winger just gives you highgrounds for free making it even more aids for sollies/demos, since I assume we'll keep winger's highground bonuses, it would then be fair to buff pistol be better at damaging/rewarding good track.