i think the intent of the rule is so people don't abuse pauses, if their players were dcing i don't think they were intentionally abusing pauses
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i think the intent of the rule is so people don't abuse pauses, if their players were dcing i don't think they were intentionally abusing pauses
boxcarAntimoonyou're not allowed to pause more than one time during a half and you're not allowed to bring a player in until after the first halfboxcaryou guys broke at least two rules during the matchWhich?
incorrect
also are you actually going to care that much abt winning an open match that ur gonna use those rules and force a 5v6 if they existed
if they were abusing pauses it's more understandable but it doesnt seem like the case here
e: after reading further
Infinity_We used our 2 legal pauses because of client issues and we were discussing what we wanted to do, and the other 2 were when laxon and sherwood disconnected;
yea 4 pauses is a bit excessive
[quote=boxcar][quote=Antimoon][quote=boxcar]you guys broke at least two rules during the match[/quote]
Which?[/quote]
you're not allowed to pause more than one time during a half and you're not allowed to bring a player in until after the first half[/quote]
incorrect
also are you actually going to care that much abt winning an open match that ur gonna use those rules and force a 5v6 if they existed
if they were abusing pauses it's more understandable but it doesnt seem like the case here
e: after reading further
[quote=Infinity_]
We used our 2 legal pauses because of client issues and we were discussing what we wanted to do, and the other 2 were when laxon and sherwood disconnected; [/quote]
yea 4 pauses is a bit excessive
Which?[/quote]
you're not allowed to pause more than one time during a half and you're not allowed to bring a player in until after the first half[/quote]
incorrect
also are you actually going to care that much abt winning an open match that ur gonna use those rules and force a 5v6 if they existed
if they were abusing pauses it's more understandable but it doesnt seem like the case here
e: after reading further
[quote=Infinity_]
We used our 2 legal pauses because of client issues and we were discussing what we wanted to do, and the other 2 were when laxon and sherwood disconnected; [/quote]
yea 4 pauses is a bit excessive
virgil
We definitely weren't abusing pauses. Impropah just got pissy because our med dced when it was even, and they were going to use that bullshit to push into last with full ad, but their med dropped to a trap LMAO (Also, they tried to call tri in to get us to forfeit because "we killed their med when he as afk which is against the rules")
Not to mention they failed to win a last push twice with full ad because our med dced again.
During the second half we swapped meds and our roamer was back down to 50 ping from 300, and then they rolled us pretty hard, fair and square, but the game definitely would have been much different if there wasn't any bullshit in the first half. GG Imporpah, just stop acting like a child by abusing client issues to win an esea open match that has 0 meaning, and then acting like we're in the wrong.
[quote=virgil] [/quote]
We definitely weren't abusing pauses. Impropah just got pissy because our med dced when it was even, and they were going to use that bullshit to push into last with full ad, but their med dropped to a trap LMAO (Also, they tried to call tri in to get us to forfeit because "we killed their med when he as afk which is against the rules")
Not to mention they failed to win a last push twice with full ad because our med dced again.
During the second half we swapped meds and our roamer was back down to 50 ping from 300, and then they rolled us pretty hard, fair and square, but the game definitely would have been much different if there wasn't any bullshit in the first half. GG Imporpah, just stop acting like a child by abusing client issues to win an esea open match that has 0 meaning, and then acting like we're in the wrong.
We definitely weren't abusing pauses. Impropah just got pissy because our med dced when it was even, and they were going to use that bullshit to push into last with full ad, but their med dropped to a trap LMAO (Also, they tried to call tri in to get us to forfeit because "we killed their med when he as afk which is against the rules")
Not to mention they failed to win a last push twice with full ad because our med dced again.
During the second half we swapped meds and our roamer was back down to 50 ping from 300, and then they rolled us pretty hard, fair and square, but the game definitely would have been much different if there wasn't any bullshit in the first half. GG Imporpah, just stop acting like a child by abusing client issues to win an esea open match that has 0 meaning, and then acting like we're in the wrong.
As much as I don’t care for Ted I will admit that they have a lot of good talent on this team.
As much as I don’t care for Ted I will admit that they have a lot of good talent on this team.
I would like to say I find it kind of ironic that Mr. Infinity has tried to call me out a few times over being childish and pissy even though I have not attempted to contact anyone on his team, tri, or post anything about his team in this forum since the match ended (in which we ended up deciding to play the second half anyways). If anything posting mad essays and trying to justify yourself to someone who isn't even on our roster, all while trying to call me out for something that's (not only false) but completely irrelevant is childish.
Ggs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.
Side note: Second pause was in the middle of our push, at the point where our medic would've popped. Our medic was paused right next to a trap, and because there was no warning of un-pause (or pause) our medic was tabbed out and dropped 2 seconds after they un-paused. Thought it was worth noting because Infinity thought it was pretty funny that our med dropped after their random un-pause.
I don't like typing mega nerd essays like this, but Infinity typing his lil heart out to boxcar about them doing nothing wrong is (not only p childish) but worth clearing up. GGs regardless and thanks to antlers for being cool about it through steam dm's the whole time.
I would like to say I find it kind of ironic that Mr. Infinity has tried to call me out a few times over being childish and pissy even though I have not attempted to contact anyone on his team, tri, or post anything about his team in this forum since the match ended (in which we ended up deciding to play the second half anyways). If anything posting mad essays and trying to justify yourself to someone who isn't even on our roster, all while trying to call me out for something that's (not only false) but completely irrelevant is childish.
Ggs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.
Side note: Second pause was in the middle of our push, at the point where our medic would've popped. Our medic was paused right next to a trap, and because there was no warning of un-pause (or pause) our medic was tabbed out and dropped 2 seconds after they un-paused. Thought it was worth noting because Infinity thought it was pretty funny that our med dropped after their random un-pause.
I don't like typing mega nerd essays like this, but Infinity typing his lil heart out to boxcar about them doing nothing wrong is (not only p childish) but worth clearing up. GGs regardless and thanks to antlers for being cool about it through steam dm's the whole time.
Ggs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.
Side note: Second pause was in the middle of our push, at the point where our medic would've popped. Our medic was paused right next to a trap, and because there was no warning of un-pause (or pause) our medic was tabbed out and dropped 2 seconds after they un-paused. Thought it was worth noting because Infinity thought it was pretty funny that our med dropped after their random un-pause.
I don't like typing mega nerd essays like this, but Infinity typing his lil heart out to boxcar about them doing nothing wrong is (not only p childish) but worth clearing up. GGs regardless and thanks to antlers for being cool about it through steam dm's the whole time.
sp0tGgs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.
Yo sorry for my teammates acting like literal retards, but just want to point out that we're not obligated to let you know that a pause is going to happen, and there's nothing wrong with switching out a player before the half. Our starting med was literally unable to play the game, so we had to bring in a sub, that's what they're for.
Also, your medic dropped after he came back into the game and walked forward into the trap, it's pretty clear that he wasn't AFK next to it in the esea stv demo, check around tick 87000.
[quote=sp0t]Ggs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.[/quote]
Yo sorry for my teammates acting like literal retards, but just want to point out that we're not obligated to let you know that a pause is going to happen, and there's nothing wrong with switching out a player before the half. Our starting med was literally unable to play the game, so we had to bring in a sub, that's what they're for.
Also, your medic dropped after he came back into the game and walked forward into the trap, it's pretty clear that he wasn't AFK next to it in the esea stv demo, check around tick 87000.
Yo sorry for my teammates acting like literal retards, but just want to point out that we're not obligated to let you know that a pause is going to happen, and there's nothing wrong with switching out a player before the half. Our starting med was literally unable to play the game, so we had to bring in a sub, that's what they're for.
Also, your medic dropped after he came back into the game and walked forward into the trap, it's pretty clear that he wasn't AFK next to it in the esea stv demo, check around tick 87000.
sp0tI would like to say I find it kind of ironic that Mr. Infinity has tried to call me out a few times over being childish and pissy even though I have not attempted to contact anyone on his team, tri, or post anything about his team in this forum since the match ended (in which we ended up deciding to play the second half anyways). If anything posting mad essays and trying to justify yourself to someone who isn't even on our roster, all while trying to call me out for something that's (not only false) but completely irrelevant is childish.
Ggs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.
Side note: Second pause was in the middle of our push, at the point where our medic would've popped. Our medic was paused right next to a trap, and because there was no warning of un-pause (or pause) our medic was tabbed out and dropped 2 seconds after they un-paused. Thought it was worth noting because Infinity thought it was pretty funny that our med dropped after their random un-pause.
I don't like typing mega nerd essays like this, but Infinity typing his lil heart out to boxcar about them doing nothing wrong is (not only p childish) but worth clearing up. GGs regardless and thanks to antlers for being cool about it through steam dm's the whole time.
Pausing needs to seriously be reviewed, with the whole uber can be built during pauses glitch and other questionable tactics that come with pausing. Honestly it seems that teams use pauses to their advantage rather than what they were actually intended for. I think there should be some sort of system where the other team has to agree to the pause, if not ESEA or someone in the TFtrue community needs to create a plugin that has big flashing text in the corner of the screen saying something along the lines of PAUSE INCOMING or some shit.
The first match of this season my team was victim to a team who paused at least 5 times in the first half due to "ping problems" on the 6th pause, right after that start of the second half (on rollout, they paused on rollout), their med shows up to mid with uber, ubers both scouts and obviously we lost the mid.
IMO they should have been held to 3 pauses. Every season I have run into teams where they pause just to throw of your team's tempo, and there isn't much you can do/
[quote=sp0t]I would like to say I find it kind of ironic that Mr. Infinity has tried to call me out a few times over being childish and pissy even though I have not attempted to contact anyone on his team, tri, or post anything about his team in this forum since the match ended (in which we ended up deciding to play the second half anyways). If anything posting mad essays and trying to justify yourself to someone who isn't even on our roster, all while trying to call me out for something that's (not only false) but completely irrelevant is childish.
Ggs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.
Side note: Second pause was in the middle of our push, at the point where our medic would've popped. Our medic was paused right next to a trap, and because there was no warning of un-pause (or pause) our medic was tabbed out and dropped 2 seconds after they un-paused. Thought it was worth noting because Infinity thought it was pretty funny that our med dropped after their random un-pause.
I don't like typing mega nerd essays like this, but Infinity typing his lil heart out to boxcar about them doing nothing wrong is (not only p childish) but worth clearing up. GGs regardless and thanks to antlers for being cool about it through steam dm's the whole time.[/quote]
Pausing needs to seriously be reviewed, with the whole [i]uber can be built during pauses[/i] glitch and other questionable tactics that come with pausing. Honestly it seems that teams use pauses to their advantage rather than what they were actually intended for. I think there should be some sort of system where the other team has to agree to the pause, if not ESEA or someone in the TFtrue community needs to create a plugin that has big flashing text in the corner of the screen saying something along the lines of [i]PAUSE INCOMING[/i] or some shit.
The first match of this season my team was victim to a team who paused at least 5 times in the first half due to "ping problems" on the 6th pause, right after that start of the second half (on rollout, they paused on rollout), their med shows up to mid with uber, ubers both scouts and obviously we lost the mid.
IMO they should have been held to 3 pauses. Every season I have run into teams where they pause just to throw of your team's tempo, and there isn't much you can do/
Ggs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.
Side note: Second pause was in the middle of our push, at the point where our medic would've popped. Our medic was paused right next to a trap, and because there was no warning of un-pause (or pause) our medic was tabbed out and dropped 2 seconds after they un-paused. Thought it was worth noting because Infinity thought it was pretty funny that our med dropped after their random un-pause.
I don't like typing mega nerd essays like this, but Infinity typing his lil heart out to boxcar about them doing nothing wrong is (not only p childish) but worth clearing up. GGs regardless and thanks to antlers for being cool about it through steam dm's the whole time.[/quote]
Pausing needs to seriously be reviewed, with the whole [i]uber can be built during pauses[/i] glitch and other questionable tactics that come with pausing. Honestly it seems that teams use pauses to their advantage rather than what they were actually intended for. I think there should be some sort of system where the other team has to agree to the pause, if not ESEA or someone in the TFtrue community needs to create a plugin that has big flashing text in the corner of the screen saying something along the lines of [i]PAUSE INCOMING[/i] or some shit.
The first match of this season my team was victim to a team who paused at least 5 times in the first half due to "ping problems" on the 6th pause, right after that start of the second half (on rollout, they paused on rollout), their med shows up to mid with uber, ubers both scouts and obviously we lost the mid.
IMO they should have been held to 3 pauses. Every season I have run into teams where they pause just to throw of your team's tempo, and there isn't much you can do/
Antimoonsp0tGgs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.Yo sorry for my teammates acting like literal retards, but just want to point out that we're not obligated to let you know that a pause is going to happen, and there's nothing wrong with switching out a player before the half. Our starting med was literally unable to play the game, so we had to bring in a sub, that's what they're for.
Also, your medic dropped after he came back into the game and walked forward into the trap, it's pretty clear that he wasn't AFK next to it in the esea stv demo, check around tick 87000.
Thanks. I understand that you`re not obligated to warn before a pause, but I believe (and I think most people would agree) its pretty basic etiquette for a team to warn before a pause and un-pause (especially for 4 pauses, when 'Teams are limited to 2 pause during regulation and 1 pause per each overtime set.')
As for styles dropping, I wasn't with combo when it happened, I was just quoting what I heard from teammates and I haven't even downloaded his pov or the stv. I totally believe what you referenced, just wanted to point out that there is a lot of general confusion for the other team when half their players aren't ready to un-pause, and (even though its literally impossible to tell) the drop would've been very easily avoided if styles didn't have food in one hand and no one knew what was happening.`
I think this whole thing is rly rly dumb and I originally just wanted to call out infinity for being dumb. Thanks for the apology and being cool Antimoon, good luck in the rest of this season :D
[quote=Antimoon][quote=sp0t]Ggs to 5 5ping but I hope they understand that 4 pauses (3 of which with zero warning of pause or un-pause, and a 4th with a steam dm before the un-pause only) is a little excessive, in addition to switching out a player before the half was finished.[/quote]
Yo sorry for my teammates acting like literal retards, but just want to point out that we're not obligated to let you know that a pause is going to happen, and there's nothing wrong with switching out a player before the half. Our starting med was literally unable to play the game, so we had to bring in a sub, that's what they're for.
Also, your medic dropped after he came back into the game and walked forward into the trap, it's pretty clear that he wasn't AFK next to it in the esea stv demo, check around tick 87000.[/quote]
Thanks. I understand that you`re not obligated to warn before a pause, but I believe (and I think most people would agree) its pretty basic etiquette for a team to warn before a pause and un-pause (especially for 4 pauses, when 'Teams are limited to 2 pause during regulation and 1 pause per each overtime set.')
As for styles dropping, I wasn't with combo when it happened, I was just quoting what I heard from teammates and I haven't even downloaded his pov or the stv. I totally believe what you referenced, just wanted to point out that there is a lot of general confusion for the other team when half their players aren't ready to un-pause, and (even though its literally impossible to tell) the drop would've been very easily avoided if styles didn't have food in one hand and no one knew what was happening.`
I think this whole thing is rly rly dumb and I originally just wanted to call out infinity for being dumb. Thanks for the apology and being cool Antimoon, good luck in the rest of this season :D
Yo sorry for my teammates acting like literal retards, but just want to point out that we're not obligated to let you know that a pause is going to happen, and there's nothing wrong with switching out a player before the half. Our starting med was literally unable to play the game, so we had to bring in a sub, that's what they're for.
Also, your medic dropped after he came back into the game and walked forward into the trap, it's pretty clear that he wasn't AFK next to it in the esea stv demo, check around tick 87000.[/quote]
Thanks. I understand that you`re not obligated to warn before a pause, but I believe (and I think most people would agree) its pretty basic etiquette for a team to warn before a pause and un-pause (especially for 4 pauses, when 'Teams are limited to 2 pause during regulation and 1 pause per each overtime set.')
As for styles dropping, I wasn't with combo when it happened, I was just quoting what I heard from teammates and I haven't even downloaded his pov or the stv. I totally believe what you referenced, just wanted to point out that there is a lot of general confusion for the other team when half their players aren't ready to un-pause, and (even though its literally impossible to tell) the drop would've been very easily avoided if styles didn't have food in one hand and no one knew what was happening.`
I think this whole thing is rly rly dumb and I originally just wanted to call out infinity for being dumb. Thanks for the apology and being cool Antimoon, good luck in the rest of this season :D
sp0tThanks for the apology and being cool Antimoon, good luck in the rest of this season :D
You too dude, and I agree that the whole thing is dumb. I just wish that we could have played without having any of the technical difficulties we did. It was pretty back and forth in the beginning, until we had to switch players and everyone just kinda lost focus or got mad. :\
MakyPausing needs to seriously be reviewed, with the whole uber can be built during pauses glitch and other questionable tactics that come with pausing. Honestly it seems that teams use pauses to their advantage rather than what they were actually intended for. I think there should be some sort of system where the other team has to agree to the pause, if not ESEA or someone in the TFtrue community needs to create a plugin that has big flashing text in the corner of the screen saying something along the lines of PAUSE INCOMING or some shit.
ESEA would just need to implement whatever the thing is in faceit that limits the number of pauses and has an auto countdown after each unpause.
[quote=sp0t]Thanks for the apology and being cool Antimoon, good luck in the rest of this season :D[/quote]
You too dude, and I agree that the whole thing is dumb. I just wish that we could have played without having any of the technical difficulties we did. It was pretty back and forth in the beginning, until we had to switch players and everyone just kinda lost focus or got mad. :\
[quote=Maky]Pausing needs to seriously be reviewed, with the whole [i]uber can be built during pauses[/i] glitch and other questionable tactics that come with pausing. Honestly it seems that teams use pauses to their advantage rather than what they were actually intended for. I think there should be some sort of system where the other team has to agree to the pause, if not ESEA or someone in the TFtrue community needs to create a plugin that has big flashing text in the corner of the screen saying something along the lines of [i]PAUSE INCOMING[/i] or some shit. [/quote]
ESEA would just need to implement whatever the thing is in faceit that limits the number of pauses and has an auto countdown after each unpause.
You too dude, and I agree that the whole thing is dumb. I just wish that we could have played without having any of the technical difficulties we did. It was pretty back and forth in the beginning, until we had to switch players and everyone just kinda lost focus or got mad. :\
[quote=Maky]Pausing needs to seriously be reviewed, with the whole [i]uber can be built during pauses[/i] glitch and other questionable tactics that come with pausing. Honestly it seems that teams use pauses to their advantage rather than what they were actually intended for. I think there should be some sort of system where the other team has to agree to the pause, if not ESEA or someone in the TFtrue community needs to create a plugin that has big flashing text in the corner of the screen saying something along the lines of [i]PAUSE INCOMING[/i] or some shit. [/quote]
ESEA would just need to implement whatever the thing is in faceit that limits the number of pauses and has an auto countdown after each unpause.
i had a dream that i got fired because i used one of my teammates as a professional refrence
i had a dream that i got fired because i used one of my teammates as a professional refrence
Does anyone want to sub for my team we need scout and a soldier we don't want to take more ffl's plz
Does anyone want to sub for my team we need scout and a soldier we don't want to take more ffl's plz
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just want to say connor isnt playing , he was just ringing for 2 matches its townze,skyrolla scout/air,griff solly/me demo/bereth medic. sorry for late clear up i just now looked at the open thread
[quote=Panda_RaceCar37][quote=Sharkitect][b]MID SEASON POWER RANKINGS[/b]
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*take discretion, this is only my second season of open and my knowledge of players is limited*[/quote]
Take my team out of power rankings.... NOW[/quote]
just want to say connor isnt playing , he was just ringing for 2 matches its townze,skyrolla scout/air,griff solly/me demo/bereth medic. sorry for late clear up i just now looked at the open thread
https://pastebin.com/SDJuukQs
*take discretion, this is only my second season of open and my knowledge of players is limited*[/quote]
Take my team out of power rankings.... NOW[/quote]
just want to say connor isnt playing , he was just ringing for 2 matches its townze,skyrolla scout/air,griff solly/me demo/bereth medic. sorry for late clear up i just now looked at the open thread
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