MR_SLINsorry yes vortex you're right it's not hard to prove that you're getting DDoSed but that's not what Toon Gang is asking. toon gang is saying prove it's one of us and we will do something about it.
also proving that you were DDoSed in an ESEA match won't overturn it or get it replayed because you can't prove that it was anyone on the other team.
however, that being said, bape is lying through his teeth and TWSS is being shady as fuck right now. we just need to keep a close eye on their matches/scrims.
the only reason that anyone should have any doubt right now is because bunny is on blacky's team, and even then this isn't the first case of bape. DDoS accusations don't come out of nowhere -- there's a reason people think it's bape.
just the fact that this has happened multiple times to toon gang's opponents is almost proof enough
i mean how many other esea teams have had this happen
[quote=MR_SLIN]sorry yes vortex you're right it's not hard to prove that you're getting DDoSed but that's not what Toon Gang is asking. toon gang is saying prove it's one of us and we will do something about it.
also proving that you were DDoSed in an ESEA match won't overturn it or get it replayed because you can't prove that it was anyone on the other team.
however, that being said, bape is lying through his teeth and TWSS is being shady as fuck right now. we just need to keep a close eye on their matches/scrims.
the only reason that anyone should have any doubt right now is because bunny is on blacky's team, and even then this isn't the first case of bape. DDoS accusations don't come out of nowhere -- there's a reason people think it's bape.[/quote]
just the fact that [i]this has happened multiple times to toon gang's opponents[/i] is almost proof enough
i mean how many other esea teams have had this happen
dashtmjust the fact that this has happened multiple times to toon gang's opponents is almost proof enough
"let me ddos the opponent of someone i hate so that people will think that he did it."
it's not "almost proof enough". people said they will find evidence. let's wait and see.
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just the fact that [i]this has happened multiple times to toon gang's opponents[/i] is almost proof enough[/quote]
"let me ddos the opponent of someone i hate so that people will think that he did it."
it's not "almost proof enough". people said they [b]will[/b] find evidence. let's wait and see.
hey guys before anyone goes too far remember that evidence is on a whole different level than just speculations/what people say. just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true obviously, for example although toon gang's opponents are being ddosed during matches does NOT mean that toon gang is doing the ddosing. i'm not defending anyone, just saying that association does not immediately mean truth. they could be being framed
hey guys before anyone goes too far remember that evidence is on a whole different level than just speculations/what people say. just because someone says something doesn't mean it's true obviously, for example although toon gang's opponents are being ddosed during matches does NOT mean that toon gang is doing the ddosing. i'm not defending anyone, just saying that association does not immediately mean truth. they could be being framed
dashtmjust the fact that this has happened multiple times to toon gang's opponents is almost proof enough
i mean how many other esea teams have had this happen
no. no no no no no no. anyone could be doing it, also knowing that toon gang has already lost a game earlier in playoffs they could be being set up. absolutely no proof here
[quote=dashtm]
just the fact that [i]this has happened multiple times to toon gang's opponents[/i] is almost proof enough
i mean how many other esea teams have had this happen[/quote]
no. no no no no no no. anyone could be doing it, also knowing that toon gang has already lost a game earlier in playoffs they could be being set up. absolutely no proof here
The fact that other people could be doing it /for/ the Toon Gang doesn't negate the fact that it makes any Toon Gang win in which someone got DDoS'd invalid.
The fact that other people could be doing it /for/ the Toon Gang doesn't negate the fact that it makes any Toon Gang win in which someone got DDoS'd invalid.
AoshimaThe fact that other people could be doing it /for/ the Toon Gang doesn't negate the fact that it makes any Toon Gang win in which someone got DDoS'd invalid.
nor does it make it any less ridiculously lame that they insisted on 5 minute pauses
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[quote=Aoshima]The fact that other people could be doing it /for/ the Toon Gang doesn't negate the fact that it makes any Toon Gang win in which someone got DDoS'd invalid.[/quote]
nor does it make it any less ridiculously lame that they insisted on 5 minute pauses
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ricrAoshimaThe fact that other people could be doing it /for/ the Toon Gang doesn't negate the fact that it makes any Toon Gang win in which someone got DDoS'd invalid.
nor does it make it any less ridiculously lame that they insisted on 5 minute pauses
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not defending anyone here. i don't give a shit and i have no clue what the situation is atm.
they were supposedly raging for most of the game. i would be very impatient if i was raging.
[quote=ricr][quote=Aoshima]The fact that other people could be doing it /for/ the Toon Gang doesn't negate the fact that it makes any Toon Gang win in which someone got DDoS'd invalid.[/quote]
nor does it make it any less ridiculously lame that they insisted on 5 minute pauses
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not defending anyone here. i don't give a shit and i have no clue what the situation is atm.
they were supposedly raging for most of the game. i would be very impatient if i was raging.
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When did TF2 become CS where we have to deal with stupid idiots DDOS'ing each other?
When did TF2 become CS where we have to deal with stupid idiots DDOS'ing each other?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/IA9wnyw.jpg[/img]
http://i.imgur.com/tVBnJgj.png
is that what it looks like when you get ddos'd?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/tVBnJgj.png[/img]
is that what it looks like when you get ddos'd?
im not even being rhetorical am i literally getting ddos'd
im not even being rhetorical am i literally getting ddos'd
Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.
Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.
starry-Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.
Dead IM teams
[quote=starry-]Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.[/quote]
Dead IM teams
starry-Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.
until IM actually has a stable amount of teams from season to season without the entire bottom half dropping out it makes sense to get as many open playoff teams into IM as possible
[quote=starry-]Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.[/quote]
until IM actually has a stable amount of teams from season to season without the entire bottom half dropping out it makes sense to get as many open playoff teams into IM as possible
mstarry-Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.
until IM actually has a stable amount of teams from season to season without the entire bottom half dropping out it makes sense to get as many open playoff teams into IM as possible
Which will probably never happen as long as the top open teams are as good as the bottom IM teams, and the top IM teams are in a division of their own.
[quote=m][quote=starry-]Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.[/quote]
until IM actually has a stable amount of teams from season to season without the entire bottom half dropping out it makes sense to get as many open playoff teams into IM as possible[/quote]
Which will probably never happen as long as the top open teams are as good as the bottom IM teams, and the top IM teams are in a division of their own.
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Now instead of being butthurt just ddos him back we can turn tf2 into a shittier game than it already is by ddosing everyone, itll be just like halo
But seriously gj whoever ddosed him just for a win, im proud of you
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Now instead of being butthurt just ddos him back we can turn tf2 into a shittier game than it already is by ddosing everyone, itll be just like halo
But seriously gj whoever ddosed him just for a win, im proud of you
synchroWhich will probably never happen as long as the top open teams are as good as the bottom IM teams, and the top IM teams are in a division of their own.
there will literally always be overlap, partially since esea doesn't do placement tourneys
not to mention the top of IM has been = or > the bottom of invite pretty much every season since its inception
its the same way in etf2l/csgo/1.6
[quote=synchro]
Which will probably never happen as long as the top open teams are as good as the bottom IM teams, and the top IM teams are in a division of their own.[/quote]
there will literally always be overlap, partially since esea doesn't do placement tourneys
not to mention the top of IM has been = or > the bottom of invite pretty much every season since its inception
its the same way in etf2l/csgo/1.6
yea synchro what you said doesn't make much sense
we just need to establish a culture of teams staying together.
anyways I talked to Alec and he wasn't hit by denial of service attack.
it lasts like 3-5 minutes so if its 30 seconds...just no
yea synchro what you said doesn't make much sense
we just need to establish a culture of teams staying together.
anyways I talked to Alec and he wasn't hit by denial of service attack.
it lasts like 3-5 minutes so if its 30 seconds...just no
MR_SLINyea synchro what you said doesn't make much sense
we just need to establish a culture of teams staying together.
anyways I talked to Alec and he wasn't hit by denial of service attack.
it lasts like 3-5 minutes so if its 30 seconds...just no
Correct me if I am wrong, which I very well could be since I have no clue about how to dos, but wouldn't it be as long as the user (person doing the ddos) would make it?
[quote=MR_SLIN]yea synchro what you said doesn't make much sense
we just need to establish a culture of teams staying together.
anyways I talked to Alec and he wasn't hit by denial of service attack.
it lasts like 3-5 minutes so if its 30 seconds...just no[/quote]
Correct me if I am wrong, which I very well could be since I have no clue about how to dos, but wouldn't it be as long as the user (person doing the ddos) would make it?
they're not that smart...they bought programs that cost a couple hundred dollars. we are talking about three 16 year olds here
they're not that smart...they bought programs that cost a couple hundred dollars. we are talking about three 16 year olds here
MR_SLINthey're not that smart...they bought programs that cost a couple hundred dollars. we are talking about three 16 year olds here
and yet they cant do anything better with that money
kids today
[quote=MR_SLIN]they're not that smart...they bought programs that cost a couple hundred dollars. we are talking about three 16 year olds here[/quote]
and yet they cant do anything better with that money
kids today
mstarry-Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.
until IM actually has a stable amount of teams from season to season without the entire bottom half dropping out it makes sense to get as many open playoff teams into IM as possible
That's understandable. How many teams would we actually want in IM anyways? I always felt like 20ish was a pretty nice size.
[quote=m][quote=starry-]Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.[/quote]
until IM actually has a stable amount of teams from season to season without the entire bottom half dropping out it makes sense to get as many open playoff teams into IM as possible[/quote]
That's understandable. How many teams would we actually want in IM anyways? I always felt like 20ish was a pretty nice size.
starry-Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.
don't think it's that big of a deal. if a team is going to live for more than one season and they are open playoff material, they deserve to advance. as for this team, the question is whether they ddosed or not.
[quote=starry-]Why is it that only 1 win required to move up to IM anyways? Seems like it should be at least 2 wins or something.[/quote]
don't think it's that big of a deal. if a team is going to [u]live for more than one season[/u] and they are open playoff material, they deserve to advance. as for this team, the question is whether they ddosed or not.
MR_SLINthey're not that smart...they bought programs that cost a couple hundred dollars. we are talking about three 16 year olds here
Judging by their lack of good booters they probably pay as little as 8 or 10 dollars a month. Hardly hundreds of dollars but yeah still incredibly pointless, and most timed booters these days use a gui on a webpage not programs.
[quote=MR_SLIN]they're not that smart...they bought programs that cost a couple hundred dollars. we are talking about three 16 year olds here[/quote]
Judging by their lack of good booters they probably pay as little as 8 or 10 dollars a month. Hardly hundreds of dollars but yeah still incredibly pointless, and most timed booters these days use a gui on a webpage not programs.
CHE_MR_SLINthey're not that smart...they bought programs that cost a couple hundred dollars. we are talking about three 16 year olds here
and yet they cant do anything better with that money
kids today
CHE, you gotta remember. Life is about games and being inside, it's the only way to have fun now
But seriously, money for programs like that are stupid ._.
[quote=CHE_][quote=MR_SLIN]they're not that smart...they bought programs that cost a couple hundred dollars. we are talking about three 16 year olds here[/quote]
and yet they cant do anything better with that money
kids today[/quote]
CHE, you gotta remember. [i]Life is about games and being inside, it's the only way to have fun now[/i]
But seriously, money for programs like that are stupid ._.
http://www.hackforums.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=107
I'm sorry but I am starting to feel like this thread is pointless. If someone has proof of what these people are doing, then report then to the correct channels. If they are actually really young, trying to go to their parents will do nothing for a few reasons;
1) Someone already said that they sent something to their parents, or threatened too, and it never went anywhere, so if it's that bad let them deal with fiscal and criminal issues. I know it sucks for those that are involved, but at the same time, I almost feel like this generation is giving people too many chances.
2) Those involved are not quitting, so I guess people should go up a notch.
3) Why is damned comp still cr
Basically, if you want to stop it, just tell your ISP and state/feds and problem will be stopped. Wasn't it like a month ago that another person that was DDOSing got 4 years in federal prison?
I'm sorry but I am starting to feel like this thread is pointless. If someone has proof of what these people are doing, then report then to the correct channels. If they are actually really young, trying to go to their parents will do nothing for a few reasons;
1) Someone already said that they sent something to their parents, or threatened too, and it never went anywhere, so if it's that bad let them deal with fiscal and criminal issues. I know it sucks for those that are involved, but at the same time, I almost feel like this generation is giving people too many chances.
2) Those involved are not quitting, so I guess people should go up a notch.
3) Why is damned comp still cr
Basically, if you want to stop it, just tell your ISP and state/feds and problem will be stopped. Wasn't it like a month ago that another person that was DDOSing got 4 years in federal prison?