hopefully not another r8 at launch

can't wait to try this weapon

https://w1z0.xyz/i/ZBv9v4.png

just played with this in casual and it's actually really bad. i've seen it do as low as 52 damage with a headshot

yeah doesnt even need a nurf at this point LOL

I feel like they should've gone with an m4a1-s approach and made the mp5 do a little more damage, be more accurate, and have slightly better recoil, and have a smaller clip and full mag than the mp7. That way it gives both weapons a niche imo

how much does it cost cus it could be good against no armor

same as mp7, 1500

recoil kinda sucks and it does about as much damage as a mac-10, not a great addition but maybe it gets changed in the future?

Did the game really need another smg?

your title kinda looks like YOMPS written weirdly

mp7 is already the best gun in the game why did they have to put it in that slot

Too many SMGs in the game that I rarely use. But I had great fun during the 1.6/CS:S days using it

adding a new gun before a major
THE ULTIMATE RISK

I'm pretty sure you can't use it in a competitive match yet. Also it is shite apart from being able to shoot through smokes without tracers

What are the actual stats of the MP5?

From what I'm reading this weapon is useless and doesn't have any real niche.

MP5 vs MP7

Pluses

• Less noise
  
• Faster move speed (about 8% faster move speed)

Minuses

• Less Damage (27 vs 29)
  
• More Spread while moving possibly ingeneral (makes no sense at all the silenced weapons in the game have less spread... it will have the worst move spread of all SMGs...)

Same

• Cost
  
• Magazine Size and total ammo
  
• Kill Award
  
• Recoil (both say "85" which is pretty dumb I thought most silenced weapons had less recoil vs stock)
  
• Penetration
  
• "Stopping Power"

basically the MP5 forces you to play more like if you had an actual rifle with terrible damage. The only thing I could think of for usage is going for a "quiet" loadout or something that's just plain dumb.

this gun kinda blows