TurySpeaking about sigafoo not liking stacked teams, he one time tried to get me and some other people banned from TF2center because of a stacked HL lobby.
https://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4282-honesty-steam-0152914633/#entry17742
I think the mod's response to his post sums up this whole thing pretty well
"you cant ban people for wanting to play with friends."
If you're going to attack me over something so inane, at least have your facts right. This was clearly not me reporting you for stacking, that happens. Whether you do it purposefully or not, rolls are going to happen. Dragging out a lobby that should have been done in under 10 minutes to take over 23 minutes. That's lame.
But let's just quote from the report, because it's pretty straightforward about what I was talking about.
"One of the problems that can happen with lobbies is stacking. Sometimes it's malicious, other times it's accidental. When it's malicious it's only truly bad when you purposely draw out the game and it creates an unfun environment.
Purposefully drawing out a game which is clearly one sided for your own benefit is rude and exploiting what the purpose of lobby is. [...]
Just looking at the logs from the game: http://logs.tf/724124
They out damaged us by over 50,000. They have over 200 kills more than us. Every person on our team has a negative K/D. Yet some how we were able to cap all four points? Just looking at the stats, that doesn't make any sense.
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Also to really just show how much they went out of their way to prolong the game on purpose.
The cart is so far back on the third point that they let overtime go on for 45 seconds. None of the 9 players on the defensive side even attempts to contest the cart. And if wasn't clear enough that they did nothing on purpose (to let us cap). As soon as the third point is capture (@ 1:48) the whole defense combo attacks the cart... "
gemmin eu when a hl lobby rolls most people let them cap so everyone gets more of a game and most people on the losing team are fine with that. it's not trying to roll people it's just trying to play more than 5 mins for a game that takes 30 to start
I agree that extending the game is not wrong if the game is even remotely close. Who doesn't want to play a good game? When they purposefully drag it out like this, it's more akin to a team who doesn't capture the point on koth and opts just to forward camp you to drag out the game for their fun. This wasn't just a little roll, the final score was 271 frags to 81. We didn't even break 100 kills after 24 minutes, whereas they almost broke 300.
I'd rather end the game, and move on to the next one than have to stay and play out such a terrible match.
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But either way, this thing is what? Over three years old. It wasn't a big deal, I brought up something I thought was not healthy for the lobby site. They said they're fine with this behavior on their site and the world moved on.
[quote=Tury]Speaking about sigafoo not liking stacked teams, he one time tried to get me and some other people banned from TF2center because of a stacked HL lobby.
https://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4282-honesty-steam-0152914633/#entry17742
I think the mod's response to his post sums up this whole thing pretty well
[i]"you cant ban people for wanting to play with friends."[/i][/quote]
If you're going to attack me over something so inane, at least have your facts right. This was clearly not me reporting you for stacking, that happens. Whether you do it purposefully or not, rolls are going to happen. Dragging out a lobby that should have been done in under 10 minutes to take over 23 minutes. That's lame.
But let's just quote from the report, because it's pretty straightforward about what I was talking about.
"One of the problems that can happen with lobbies is stacking. Sometimes it's malicious, other times it's accidental. When it's malicious [u]it's only truly bad when you purposely draw out the game[/u] and it creates an unfun environment.
Purposefully drawing out a game which is clearly one sided for your own benefit is rude and exploiting what the purpose of lobby is. [...]
Just looking at the logs from the game: [url=http://logs.tf/724124?highlight=76561197962684957]http://logs.tf/724124[/url]
They out damaged us by over 50,000. They have over 200 kills more than us. Every person on our team has a negative K/D. Yet some how we were able to cap all four points? Just looking at the stats, that doesn't make any sense.
[...]
Also to really just show how much they went out of their way to prolong the game on purpose.
The cart is so far back on the third point that they let overtime go on for 45 seconds. None of the 9 players on the defensive side even attempts to contest the cart. And if wasn't clear enough that they did nothing on purpose (to let us cap). As soon as the third point is capture (@ 1:48) the whole defense combo attacks the cart... "
[quote=gemm]in eu when a hl lobby rolls most people let them cap so everyone gets more of a game and most people on the losing team are fine with that. it's not trying to roll people it's just trying to play more than 5 mins for a game that takes 30 to start[/quote]
I agree that extending the game is not wrong if the game is even remotely close. Who doesn't want to play a good game? When they purposefully drag it out like this, it's more akin to a team who doesn't capture the point on koth and opts just to forward camp you to drag out the game for their fun. This wasn't just a little roll, the final score was 271 frags to 81. We didn't even break 100 kills after 24 minutes, whereas they almost broke 300.
I'd rather end the game, and move on to the next one than have to stay and play out such a terrible match.
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But either way, this thing is what? Over three years old. It wasn't a big deal, I brought up something I thought was not healthy for the lobby site. They said they're fine with this behavior on their site and the world moved on.
whats even happening in this thread anymore
whats even happening in this thread anymore
sigafooIt wasn't a big deal,
The essay you just posted suggests otherwise.
[quote=sigafoo]It wasn't a big deal,[/quote]
The essay you just posted suggests otherwise.
Tino_sigafooIt wasn't a big deal,
The essay you just posted suggests otherwise.
The situation wasn't a big deal, just calling out someone who's trying to twist the facts to attack me. Explaining why someone is lying often takes longer to explain than the lie itself.
crabfwhats even happening in this thread anymore
Good question.
[quote=Tino_][quote=sigafoo]It wasn't a big deal,[/quote]
The essay you just posted suggests otherwise.[/quote]
The situation wasn't a big deal, just calling out someone who's trying to twist the facts to attack me. Explaining why someone is lying often takes longer to explain than the lie itself.
[quote=crabf]whats even happening in this thread anymore[/quote]
Good question.
imagine responding to people who have very clearly given reasons as to why your decision was wrong, with no indication of changing, for a WEEK.
wtf are u even doing anymore man just let people talk
imagine responding to people who have very clearly given reasons as to why your decision was wrong, with no indication of changing, for a [b]WEEK[/b].
wtf are u even doing anymore man just let people talk
Sigafoo, please do yourself a massive favor and stop posting in this thread.
You're really not doing yourself any favors by "defending" yourself.
Sigafoo, please do yourself a massive favor and stop posting in this thread.
You're really not doing yourself any favors by "defending" yourself.
TurySpeaking about sigafoo not liking stacked teams, he one time tried to get me and some other people banned from TF2center because of a stacked HL lobby.
https://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4282-honesty-steam-0152914633/#entry17742
I think the mod's response to his post sums up this whole thing pretty well
"you cant ban people for wanting to play with friends."
taking that much time to listen to the mumble and that essay just to ban people for playing with friends fucking pathetic
[quote=Tury]Speaking about sigafoo not liking stacked teams, he one time tried to get me and some other people banned from TF2center because of a stacked HL lobby.
https://forums.tf2center.com/topic/4282-honesty-steam-0152914633/#entry17742
I think the mod's response to his post sums up this whole thing pretty well
[i]"you cant ban people for wanting to play with friends."[/i][/quote]
taking that much time to listen to the mumble and that essay just to ban people for playing with friends fucking pathetic