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Serious suggestion about the jumper weapons
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#1
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I believe they should have knock back on enemies. There is no real way to abuse this since they are just like their counterparts in every stat but damage (there's clipsize but that doesnt matter). It would be fun as hell. All these things are self evident. Discuss

I believe they should have knock back on enemies. There is no real way to abuse this since they are just like their counterparts in every stat but damage (there's clipsize but that doesnt matter). It would be fun as hell. All these things are self evident. Discuss
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#2
24 Frags +

sounds great

https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/contact?recipient=TF+Team

sounds great

https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/contact?recipient=TF+Team
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#3
1 Frags +

I had this idea before too, should be cool

I had this idea before too, should be cool
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#4
10 Frags +

Knockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.

Knockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.
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#5
4 Frags +

fuck off

fuck off
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#6
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MakKnockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.

u mean rules as in what the game engine allows? cuz the shortstop has a shove which deals no damage lmao it's useless

[quote=Mak]Knockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.[/quote]
u mean rules as in what the game engine allows? cuz the shortstop has a shove which deals no damage lmao it's useless
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#7
27 Frags +
hamahamMakKnockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.u mean rules as in what the game engine allows? cuz the shortstop has a shove which deals no damage lmao it's useless

it actually does 1 damage

[quote=hamaham][quote=Mak]Knockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.[/quote]
u mean rules as in what the game engine allows? cuz the shortstop has a shove which deals no damage lmao it's useless[/quote]
it actually does 1 damage
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#8
-9 Frags +
hamahamu mean rules as in what the game engine allows? cuz the shortstop has a shove which deals no damage lmao it's useless

yeah and I think the same thing about that weapon lmfao. Fuck unlocks

[quote=hamaham]
u mean rules as in what the game engine allows? cuz the shortstop has a shove which deals no damage lmao it's useless[/quote]

yeah and I think the same thing about that weapon lmfao. Fuck unlocks
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#9
5 Frags +

i'm not a fan

i'm not a fan
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#10
39 Frags +
MakKnockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.

u know thats essentially what the pyro class does right

[quote=Mak]Knockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.[/quote]
u know thats essentially what the pyro class does right
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#11
-2 Frags +
Spuu know thats essentially what the pyro class does right

First of all airblast os obviously different to the concept proposed here, second of all, I think airblast is retarded too. See ym response to the shortstop. I don't really see what's so wild about the point I'm making that people wanna poke holes in it.

[quote=Spu]
u know thats essentially what the pyro class does right[/quote]

First of all airblast os obviously different to the concept proposed here, second of all, I think airblast is retarded too. See ym response to the shortstop. I don't really see what's so wild about the point I'm making that people wanna poke holes in it.
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#12
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What would you do with it? Besides being like those dopey pyros on hightower who wait around the corner for 5 minutes to airblast somebody off the cliff.

What would you do with it? Besides being like those dopey pyros on hightower who wait around the corner for 5 minutes to airblast somebody off the cliff.
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#13
-2 Frags +

1- Airblast is easy to use, but really hard to master (even tho that's not the point)
2- i think that if you add a knockback thing on the jumper weapons, it would be useless because the weapons are already well balanced, as a reminder, it only gives free massive mobility for the cost of no damage dealt by the weapon, but this mobility is insane enough to make those buffs, that would make the weapon just better, just like the cow mangler buff.

1- Airblast is easy to use, but really hard to master (even tho that's not the point)
2- i think that if you add a knockback thing on the jumper weapons, it would be useless because the weapons are already well balanced, as a reminder, it only gives free massive mobility for the cost of no damage dealt by the weapon, but this mobility is insane enough to make those buffs, that would make the weapon just better, just like the cow mangler buff.
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#14
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MakKnockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.

Obviously OP's idea is bad from a balance perspective, however from a coherency of design/universe perspective, how in hell does a sticky jumper sticky propel you but noone else? What magical force is this?

[quote=Mak]Knockback is tied to damage tho this basically goes against all the rules of the game. Fair enough for the individual using the weapon, the whole point of the gun is you still have self knockback but dont do damage to others. For enemies to take knockback from a gun that does no damage is stupid as fuck.[/quote]

Obviously OP's idea is bad from a balance perspective, however from a coherency of design/universe perspective, how in hell does a sticky jumper sticky propel you but noone else? What magical force is this?
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#15
14 Frags +
Olgha1- Airblast is easy to use, but really hard to master (even tho that's not the point)

its easy to use and takes 5 minutes to master

Olgha2- i think that if you add a knockback thing on the jumper weapons, it would be useless because the weapons are already well balanced, as a reminder, it only gives free massive mobility for the cost of no damage dealt by the weapon, but this mobility is insane enough to make those buffs, that would make the weapon just better, just like the cow mangler buff.

While it does what its supposed to do (which is be a fucking meme weapon to fly around with) idk if you could call it ''balanced''. No one would ever use a rocket launcher that doesnt do damage if you're even remotely trying its not like you can ''abuse'' it in pubs its just straight up a bad weapon.

IMO it wouldn't be necessary cause the concept of the weapon is a meme and there wouldn't be a way to make weapons like it viable. But at the same time I would find it funny to hit a 0 damage quad airshot.

[quote=Olgha]1- Airblast is easy to use, but really hard to master (even tho that's not the point)
[/quote]
its easy to use and takes 5 minutes to master
[quote=Olgha]2- i think that if you add a knockback thing on the jumper weapons, it would be useless because the weapons are already well balanced, as a reminder, it only gives free massive mobility for the cost of no damage dealt by the weapon, but this mobility is insane enough to make those buffs, that would make the weapon just better, just like the cow mangler buff.[/quote]
While it does what its supposed to do (which is be a fucking meme weapon to fly around with) idk if you could call it ''balanced''. No one would ever use a rocket launcher that doesnt do damage if you're even remotely trying its not like you can ''abuse'' it in pubs its just straight up a bad weapon.

IMO it wouldn't be necessary cause the concept of the weapon is a meme and there wouldn't be a way to make weapons like it viable. But at the same time I would find it funny to hit a 0 damage quad airshot.
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#16
3 Frags +
Spuu know thats essentially what the pyro class does right

implying that airblast itself isnt stupid as fuck

[quote=Spu]
u know thats essentially what the pyro class does right[/quote]

implying that airblast itself isnt stupid as fuck
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#17
1 Frags +

Its really easy to tell the difference between someone who just offclasses to pyro out of necessity and someone who actually plays the class when u have to play against them.

The class is retarded but it def does not take 5 min to master

JORDYOlgha1- Airblast is easy to use, but really hard to master (even tho that's not the point)its easy to use and takes 5 minutes to masterOlgha2- i think that if you add a knockback thing on the jumper weapons, it would be useless because the weapons are already well balanced, as a reminder, it only gives free massive mobility for the cost of no damage dealt by the weapon, but this mobility is insane enough to make those buffs, that would make the weapon just better, just like the cow mangler buff.While it does what its supposed to do (which is be a fucking meme weapon to fly around with) idk if you could call it ''balanced''. No one would ever use a rocket launcher that doesnt do damage if you're even remotely trying its not like you can ''abuse'' it in pubs its just straight up a bad weapon.

IMO it wouldn't be necessary cause the concept of the weapon is a meme and there wouldn't be a way to make weapons like it viable. But at the same time I would find it funny to hit a 0 damage quad airshot.
Its really easy to tell the difference between someone who just offclasses to pyro out of necessity and someone who actually plays the class when u have to play against them.

The class is retarded but it def does not take 5 min to master[quote=JORDY][quote=Olgha]1- Airblast is easy to use, but really hard to master (even tho that's not the point)
[/quote]
its easy to use and takes 5 minutes to master
[quote=Olgha]2- i think that if you add a knockback thing on the jumper weapons, it would be useless because the weapons are already well balanced, as a reminder, it only gives free massive mobility for the cost of no damage dealt by the weapon, but this mobility is insane enough to make those buffs, that would make the weapon just better, just like the cow mangler buff.[/quote]
While it does what its supposed to do (which is be a fucking meme weapon to fly around with) idk if you could call it ''balanced''. No one would ever use a rocket launcher that doesnt do damage if you're even remotely trying its not like you can ''abuse'' it in pubs its just straight up a bad weapon.

IMO it wouldn't be necessary cause the concept of the weapon is a meme and there wouldn't be a way to make weapons like it viable. But at the same time I would find it funny to hit a 0 damage quad airshot.[/quote]
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#18
-8 Frags +

@Jordy From a player that does 4k as pocket every scrim, you should stop talking about things you don't comprehend, and think about using it, with that weapon you don't have to aim at people and you get more survivability, a thing that you seem to struggle with.

nothing against you, just the fact that you get to prem with your level showst that this game has issues

@Jordy From a player that does 4k as pocket every scrim, you should stop talking about things you don't comprehend, and think about using it, with that weapon you don't have to aim at people and you get more survivability, a thing that you seem to struggle with.

nothing against you, just the fact that you get to prem with your level showst that this game has issues
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#19
13 Frags +
Olgha@Jordy From a player that does 4k as pocket every scrim, you should stop talking about things you don't comprehend, and think about using it, with that weapon you don't have to aim at people and you get more survivability, a thing that you seem to struggle with.

nothing against you, just the fact that you get to prem with your level showst that this game has issues

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[quote=Olgha]@Jordy From a player that does 4k as pocket every scrim, you should stop talking about things you don't comprehend, and think about using it, with that weapon you don't have to aim at people and you get more survivability, a thing that you seem to struggle with.

nothing against you, just the fact that you get to prem with your level showst that this game has issues[/quote]
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#20
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#21
2 Frags +
Olgha@Jordy From a player that does 4k as pocket every scrim, you should stop talking about things you don't comprehend, and think about using it, with that weapon you don't have to aim at people and you get more survivability, a thing that you seem to struggle with.

nothing against you, just the fact that you get to prem with your level showst that this game has issues

fee fi fo fum i smell the blood of a retarded one
silly human how dare you insult the child progidy of all that is tf2
he is bred from the genes of banny himself and possess the knowledge of the great gay furry tuggernaug

u do not know the fury that you will unleash upon your silly life pitiful human!!!!!!

[quote=Olgha]@Jordy From a player that does 4k as pocket every scrim, you should stop talking about things you don't comprehend, and think about using it, with that weapon you don't have to aim at people and you get more survivability, a thing that you seem to struggle with.

nothing against you, just the fact that you get to prem with your level showst that this game has issues[/quote]

fee fi fo fum i smell the blood of a retarded one
silly human how dare you insult the child progidy of all that is tf2
he is bred from the genes of banny himself and possess the knowledge of the great gay furry tuggernaug

u do not know the fury that you will unleash upon your silly life pitiful human!!!!!!
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#22
1 Frags +

why is this garnering discussion
are you guys really debating whether giving a weapon that gives you incredible mobility and survivability and a 200% ammo increase the ability to stuff ubers and blast people around thats just absolutely retarded

why is this garnering discussion
are you guys really debating whether giving a weapon that gives you incredible mobility and survivability and a 200% ammo increase the ability to stuff ubers and blast people around thats just absolutely retarded
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#23
-4 Frags +

is NOT TAKING DAMAGE FROM ROCKETS AND BEING ABLE TO BE EXTREMELY MOBILE ON AN ALREADY MOBILE CLASS not enough for you?

is NOT TAKING DAMAGE FROM ROCKETS AND BEING ABLE TO BE EXTREMELY MOBILE ON AN ALREADY MOBILE CLASS not enough for you?
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#24
3 Frags +

ya but u cant do damage so its fair

ya but u cant do damage so its fair
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#25
3 Frags +

Even if knocback got added to the jumpers they still probably wouldn’t be used seriously, nobody is gonna sacrifice all of their damage for more mobility

Even if knocback got added to the jumpers they still probably wouldn’t be used seriously, nobody is gonna sacrifice all of their damage for more mobility
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#26
6 Frags +
Olgha@Jordy From a player that does 4k as pocket every scrim, you should stop talking about things you don't comprehend, and think about using it, with that weapon you don't have to aim at people and you get more survivability, a thing that you seem to struggle with.

nothing against you, just the fact that you get to prem with your level showst that this game has issues

i have no idea what you just even fucking said but everything about this post seems like a personal attack to me and not a single thing about the topic at hand.

also 4k what? i'd assume damage but i outdamaged you in 3 out of 4 maps in the officials we played and the 1 map where you outdamaged me my pc shit the bed and i started off the game going 0:13 anyway so you're just fucking stupid.

[quote=Olgha]@Jordy From a player that does 4k as pocket every scrim, you should stop talking about things you don't comprehend, and think about using it, with that weapon you don't have to aim at people and you get more survivability, a thing that you seem to struggle with.

nothing against you, just the fact that you get to prem with your level showst that this game has issues[/quote]
i have no idea what you just even fucking said but everything about this post seems like a personal attack to me and not a single thing about the topic at hand.

also 4k what? i'd assume damage but i outdamaged you in 3 out of 4 maps in the officials we played and the 1 map where you outdamaged me my pc shit the bed and i started off the game going 0:13 anyway so you're just fucking stupid.
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#27
refresh.tf
5 Frags +

Jordy... Just play like MGEMike bro and get 450 dpm... Honestly

Jordy... Just play like MGEMike bro and get 450 dpm... Honestly
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