whyygive us some info @Mitch_ im curious
As I said in the original post, stay tuned to TFTV for further announcements. I literally woke up an hour ago to this so we're all pretty shaken.
ESEA to drop tf2 after season 31???
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[quote=whyy]give us some info @Mitch_ im curious[/quote]
As I said in the original post, stay tuned to TFTV for further announcements. I literally woke up an hour ago to this so we're all pretty shaken.
As I said in the original post, stay tuned to TFTV for further announcements. I literally woke up an hour ago to this so we're all pretty shaken.
everyone is so thirsty chill we have an entire season to figure this out
everyone is so thirsty chill we have an entire season to figure this out
Honestly didn't think UGC TF2 was going to outlast ESEA TF2 after the RGL switch for most of HL...
That being said I'm not surprised, and it was a bad deal for both sides. ESEA lost money on TF2 and the vast majority of players were losing money on ESEA cause it was a shit service with a client that did basically nothing but add a whole new layer of possible problems for playing a match.
The anti-cheat client hasn't caught a single ESEA player for any kind of cheating in years, the only ones I know of being manual bans and very likely retard CSGO players leaving the client open and cheating in pubs, considering the handful of players that got a "TF2" detection all had 0 seasons of experience in TF2 but had experience in CS or at least CS pugs. Worst part about it if you search really hard you can find evidence of cheat bans for CSS using a lot of the same kind of exploits currently being used in ESEA TF2 (seriously right down to the exact same file and equivalent install location).
Not to mention the massive amount of Bad PR ESEA has gotten over the years from a shitty owner and the whole bitcoin fiasco. Potential Players who heard about that had even less reason to try it, even if it's several years later.
That being said fuck Valve for shit support and shit MM next to no one wants to try competitive in a game were ELO based MM isn't really a thing, isn't balanced at all and hasn't received a balance update in over a year. While offering no money for tournaments like they do in CSGO and Dota and were going to do in Artifact.
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Sorry about my pessimism ESEA dropping TF2 just kinda adds fuel to the fire of how disappointed I am with how this game has progressed in the last 8 years I've been around.
Honestly didn't think UGC TF2 was going to outlast ESEA TF2 after the RGL switch for most of HL...
That being said I'm not surprised, and it was a bad deal for both sides. ESEA lost money on TF2 and the vast majority of players were losing money on ESEA cause it was a shit service with a client that did basically nothing but add a whole new layer of possible problems for playing a match.
The anti-cheat client hasn't caught a single ESEA player for any kind of cheating in years, the only ones I know of being manual bans and very likely retard CSGO players leaving the client open and cheating in pubs, considering the handful of players that got a "TF2" detection all had 0 seasons of experience in TF2 but had experience in CS or at least CS pugs. Worst part about it if you search really hard you can find evidence of cheat bans for CSS using a lot of the same kind of exploits currently being used in ESEA TF2 (seriously right down to the exact same file and equivalent install location).
Not to mention the massive amount of Bad PR ESEA has gotten over the years from a shitty owner and the whole bitcoin fiasco. Potential Players who heard about that had even less reason to try it, even if it's several years later.
That being said fuck Valve for shit support and shit MM next to no one wants to try competitive in a game were ELO based MM isn't really a thing, isn't balanced at all and hasn't received a balance update in over a year. While offering no money for tournaments like they do in CSGO and Dota and were going to do in Artifact.
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Sorry about my pessimism ESEA dropping TF2 just kinda adds fuel to the fire of how disappointed I am with how this game has progressed in the last 8 years I've been around.
That being said I'm not surprised, and it was a bad deal for both sides. ESEA lost money on TF2 and the vast majority of players were losing money on ESEA cause it was a shit service with a client that did basically nothing but add a whole new layer of possible problems for playing a match.
The anti-cheat client hasn't caught a single ESEA player for any kind of cheating in years, the only ones I know of being manual bans and very likely retard CSGO players leaving the client open and cheating in pubs, considering the handful of players that got a "TF2" detection all had 0 seasons of experience in TF2 but had experience in CS or at least CS pugs. Worst part about it if you search really hard you can find evidence of cheat bans for CSS using a lot of the same kind of exploits currently being used in ESEA TF2 (seriously right down to the exact same file and equivalent install location).
Not to mention the massive amount of Bad PR ESEA has gotten over the years from a shitty owner and the whole bitcoin fiasco. Potential Players who heard about that had even less reason to try it, even if it's several years later.
That being said fuck Valve for shit support and shit MM next to no one wants to try competitive in a game were ELO based MM isn't really a thing, isn't balanced at all and hasn't received a balance update in over a year. While offering no money for tournaments like they do in CSGO and Dota and were going to do in Artifact.
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Sorry about my pessimism ESEA dropping TF2 just kinda adds fuel to the fire of how disappointed I am with how this game has progressed in the last 8 years I've been around.
whyygive us some info @Mitch_ im curious
my man the announcement was just made today, hes not gonna have any details
[quote=whyy]give us some info @Mitch_ im curious[/quote]
my man the announcement was just made today, hes not gonna have any details
my man the announcement was just made today, hes not gonna have any details
ComangliaThat being said fuck Valve for shit support and shit MM next to no one wants to try competitive in a game were ELO based MM isn't really a thing, isn't balanced at all and hasn't received a balance update in over a year. While offering no money for tournaments like they do in CSGO and Dota and were going to do in Artifact.
But let's be cautious with hating on Valve, let's make sure we're hating the situation and not the devs themselves. Or, hate the higher level bosses/company culture etc, but remember the devs like Jill have wanted to do so much more, but just.. couldn't; no manpower, no help. There are indeed good people at Valve who did nothing wrong, and are as frustrated as many of us.
[quote=Comanglia]That being said fuck Valve for shit support and shit MM next to no one wants to try competitive in a game were ELO based MM isn't really a thing, isn't balanced at all and hasn't received a balance update in over a year. While offering no money for tournaments like they do in CSGO and Dota and were going to do in Artifact.[/quote]
But let's be cautious with hating on Valve, let's make sure we're hating the situation and not the devs themselves. Or, hate the higher level bosses/company culture etc, but remember the devs like Jill have wanted to do so much more, but just.. couldn't; no manpower, no help. There are indeed good people at Valve who did nothing wrong, and are as frustrated as many of us.
But let's be cautious with hating on Valve, let's make sure we're hating the situation and not the devs themselves. Or, hate the higher level bosses/company culture etc, but remember the devs like Jill have wanted to do so much more, but just.. couldn't; no manpower, no help. There are indeed good people at Valve who did nothing wrong, and are as frustrated as many of us.
Really unfortunate to happen at this moment to because I honestly feel like the community was picking up some internal momentum. A new map got added recently with many more potential ones looking good, the prize pool system was redistributed and all the community casts/ invite happenings videos have been nice to watch.
The good thing is that all of that was community driven, I just hope people still have a drive for doing it with whatever comes next.
Really unfortunate to happen at this moment to because I honestly feel like the community was picking up some internal momentum. A new map got added recently with many more potential ones looking good, the prize pool system was redistributed and all the community casts/ invite happenings videos have been nice to watch.
The good thing is that all of that was community driven, I just hope people still have a drive for doing it with whatever comes next.
The good thing is that all of that was community driven, I just hope people still have a drive for doing it with whatever comes next.
Taking applications for madmen tryouts. Need a big dick demo, a high flying super styling last of the roamers, and a medic who may or may not multi.
Taking applications for madmen tryouts. Need a big dick demo, a high flying super styling last of the roamers, and a medic who may or may not multi.
aratingaant man to save na tf2
perdido ai mens??
[quote=aratinga]ant man to save na tf2[/quote]
perdido ai mens??
perdido ai mens??
lucrativewhyygive us some info @Mitch_ im curious
my man the announcement was just made today, hes not gonna have any details
theyve made some posts before about the possibility of starting an esl league for tf2 and they had the survey or whatever so i mean they must already have some ideas on what they want to do. But im just prying lol.
[quote=lucrative][quote=whyy]give us some info @Mitch_ im curious[/quote]
my man the announcement was just made today, hes not gonna have any details[/quote]
theyve made some posts before about the possibility of starting an esl league for tf2 and they had the survey or whatever so i mean they must already have some ideas on what they want to do. But im just prying lol.
my man the announcement was just made today, hes not gonna have any details[/quote]
theyve made some posts before about the possibility of starting an esl league for tf2 and they had the survey or whatever so i mean they must already have some ideas on what they want to do. But im just prying lol.
bl4nkTaking applications for madmen tryouts. Need a big dick demo, a high flying super styling last of the roamers, and a medic who may or may not multi.
I formally submit my application
[quote=bl4nk]Taking applications for madmen tryouts. Need a big dick demo, a high flying super styling last of the roamers, and a medic who may or may not multi.[/quote]
I formally submit my application
I formally submit my application
YES! The CGA can rule the world now! EVERY ESEA MEMBER OR TF2 PLAYER KN GENERAL, JOIN THE CGA NOW!
https://discord.gg/46P2sPS
YES! The CGA can rule the world now! EVERY ESEA MEMBER OR TF2 PLAYER KN GENERAL, JOIN THE CGA NOW!
https://discord.gg/46P2sPS
https://discord.gg/46P2sPS
I swear if this game dies before I play in a comp season I'mma be SO pissed
I swear if this game dies before I play in a comp season I'mma be [b][u]SO[/u][/b] pissed
I feel like everyone saw this coming at some point. even without ESEA competitive TF2 will live on
I feel like everyone saw this coming at some point. even without ESEA competitive TF2 will live on
Fuck, I was so sure that after this season I was primed to get picked up and finally play invite
Fuck, I was so sure that after this season I was primed to get picked up and finally play invite
Just noticed...
Can we please get a different color for Mitch and ESL? This is way to hard to read...
Just noticed...
Can we please get a different color for Mitch and ESL? This is way to hard to read...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/jG5O7fv.png[/img]
Can we please get a different color for Mitch and ESL? This is way to hard to read...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/jG5O7fv.png[/img]
parkif banny wins the last season tf2 is dead
Its simple. We uh kill the b4n man.
[quote=park]if banny wins the last season tf2 is dead[/quote]
Its simple. We uh kill the b4n man.
Its simple. We uh kill the b4n man.
ComangliaJust noticed...
Can we please get a different color for Mitch and ESL? This is way to hard to read...
https://i.imgur.com/jG5O7fv.png
our colours are very... vibrant at the moment.
[quote=Comanglia]Just noticed...
Can we please get a different color for Mitch and ESL? This is way to hard to read...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/jG5O7fv.png[/img][/quote]
our colours are very... vibrant at the moment.
Can we please get a different color for Mitch and ESL? This is way to hard to read...
[img]https://i.imgur.com/jG5O7fv.png[/img][/quote]
our colours are very... vibrant at the moment.
This is far from the end of competitive TF2. My guess is an ESL or a ETF2L NA division. Either way, ESEA TF2 lasted for 10 years and that is quite the achievement.
This is far from the end of competitive TF2. My guess is an ESL or a ETF2L NA division. Either way, ESEA TF2 lasted for 10 years and that is quite the achievement.
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