Didn't play that long but still had fun. GG's everyone go out with a bang

Welp guess I have to make a comeback. Sorry in advance

funny enough its being scheduled for next week!

All of the league organizers, UGC, RGL, TFCL, ESL, ESEA and more will be meeting up to discuss our plans to make sure the future of NA TF2 doesn't get ruined.

God bless.

Also speaking of league organizers / admins, I just wanna get this out right now but tri thank you so much for everything you've done. The man sacrificed countless hours into atleast making the league run well enough to ensure our satisfaction (to the best of his ability of course, he was the only tf2 admin iirc dealing with over 60+ teams over 3 divisions). I can't help but feel like without tri being the hokage from the shadows we couldve potentially had ESEA drop us sooner than they did. Just giving the credit where its due real shit

I also want to thank Tri for his dedication, my team messaged him countless times last season about broken servers and he was always fast to re-assign servers and fix our issues.

what have we done to deserve you

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I really miss the days of the old ESEA LANs from around the S6-S12 era.

actual facts

Newbie Mixes will continue with both of our Friday Night mixes to get new players into NA 6v6, and will also continue to do seasonal team drives for whatever league holds the premier competition in North America. We've done it for years with the intent of growing competitive 6v6 and empowering new players, and none of us see a reason to stop now, just because one league has dropped support.

We're also interested in doing collaborations with leagues for the events that we run to hopefully make transition from us to the leagues more intuitive.

And on a personal note, yes, thank you tri for putting up with all of that crap for years! You da best.

lol

gg it was a fun 10 years. glad to say I was part of 8 of them

I now work in three regions for four different organisations. Please help, and send coffee. (Also by the way without you guys and the rest of the community this could've gone very differently, so thanks everyone.)

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me pixel bomb. me roam.

IndustToday at 5:19 PM
@bl4nk One last hurrah? Defeatist

IndustToday at 5:20 PM
I'm still playing no matter the league

see this is why I chose to be born in europe

lft team to rosterride

On another note, I didnt even know this many leagues existed in NA for TF2.

one could even argue that thats part of the reason why esea died, because instead of everyone playing in one spot it was split among 5 or so places

we might have had enough teams to justify them keeping the league alive if every single 6s team played esea in NA but there's no use imagining what might have been at this point

Doubt people registering for a league like UGC or RGL want to pay to play ESEA, I also doubt the chances the potential 10 extra teams that would play ESEA if they had nowhere else to play would have saved the league - I genuinely believe community leagues are a gateway for people to play TF2 and then enter a league like ESEA, they probably did a lot more to help the league than damage them - Ask all the HL guys who went on to ESEA.

I got no proof of this, I just don't think there is any blame to be laid on free community leagues - Communities make the game the best game it can be, TF2 has been visibly losing numbers since well - Valve fucked over communities in TF2 in a variety of ways we all know about. That's harmed the game more than anything - ESEA supported TF2 for longer than it really should have, it's been a crazy ride and a lot of good times watching TF2 came from it.

I still want my £200 I invested trying to help ESEA EU grow way back btw....maybe not.

End of an era for TF2, I wonder where all the NA guys go now.

goodbye 2 halves

F

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I do understand your point, to do with having these many leagues may not have impacted TF2's ESEA survivability. But in my opinion I would still rather have every player in the same league and try to include all of them rather than having your numbers split between different leagues so that they "practice" for the main leagues when stuff like open (e.g. in ETF2L) already exists.

Because I believe part of the issue like many are arguing for is that all these different leagues don't boast only 2 teams competing against each other. There in fact is a larger portion of teams that haven't made their ways to the bigger leagues because they either haven't been exposed to them correctly or are just too scared when they shouldn't be.
Now imagine this scenario fractured between 5+ leagues.

I don't have any numbers to back up my claims so by all means I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain of my points.

No matter how you cut it. This is going to be a major blow for tf2. Personally my goal, and end game pretty much was to be able to receive an esea invite participant. I feel like that's the "you made it" point. You don't have to agree with that, but I don't really see a "goal" to reach anymore.

I feel like this emphasizes a point that I've been saying for over a year now. Although the competetive tf2 scene is thriving, and even growing as of now. There seems to be a sort of stigma around it. I feel like this shows that everyone that isn't in the tf2 community wants to just see the game die already. When they don't look into it they just see a 10 year old game with barely any value anymore. Of course this isn't true, but the more I see it, the more distain I see from people who think comp tf2 is a joke.

-------------^------------- i predicted it

lol

TF2 IS GONE