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Yeah sure just because you are impeached doesn't mean you did anything and just because you didn't get impeached doesn't mean it didn't happen. The problem with the system is that if either party holds a majority truth goes out the window for feelings. #Trump2020
Down frag me. I don't care
Yeah sure just because you are impeached doesn't mean you did anything and just because you didn't get impeached doesn't mean it didn't happen. The problem with the system is that if either party holds a majority truth goes out the window for feelings. #Trump2020
Down frag me. I don't care
Down frag me. I don't care
seven1Yeah sure just because you are impeached doesn't mean you did anything and just because you didn't get impeached doesn't mean it didn't happen. The problem with the system is that if either party holds a majority truth goes out the window for feelings. #Trump2020
Down frag me. I don't care
nah ur right, holding a majority does mean the truth doesnt matter. just like how when this goes to the senate the republicans will vote it down regardless of the truth.
[quote=seven1]Yeah sure just because you are impeached doesn't mean you did anything and just because you didn't get impeached doesn't mean it didn't happen. The problem with the system is that if either party holds a majority truth goes out the window for feelings. #Trump2020
Down frag me. I don't care[/quote]
nah ur right, holding a majority does mean the truth doesnt matter. just like how when this goes to the senate the republicans will vote it down regardless of the truth.
Down frag me. I don't care[/quote]
nah ur right, holding a majority does mean the truth doesnt matter. just like how when this goes to the senate the republicans will vote it down regardless of the truth.
seven1Yeah sure just because you are impeached doesn't mean you did anything and just because you didn't get impeached doesn't mean it didn't happen. The problem with the system is that if either party holds a majority truth goes out the window for feelings. #Trump2020
Down frag me. I don't care
it seems like u think the argument for impeachment are "if the vote for impeachment passes that will prove he's done these acts". its not and are you honestly that ignorant to everything trump has done? or are u just lying about it because u don't care about his actions, u support him regardless. i mean, the man said it himself, he could literally shoot people and brainiacs like u would still support him
[quote=seven1]Yeah sure just because you are impeached doesn't mean you did anything and just because you didn't get impeached doesn't mean it didn't happen. The problem with the system is that if either party holds a majority truth goes out the window for feelings. #Trump2020
Down frag me. I don't care[/quote]
it seems like u think the argument for impeachment are "if the vote for impeachment passes that will prove he's done these acts". its not and are you honestly that ignorant to everything trump has done? or are u just lying about it because u don't care about his actions, u support him regardless. i mean, the man said it himself, he could literally shoot people and brainiacs like u would still support him
Down frag me. I don't care[/quote]
it seems like u think the argument for impeachment are "if the vote for impeachment passes that will prove he's done these acts". its not and are you honestly that ignorant to everything trump has done? or are u just lying about it because u don't care about his actions, u support him regardless. i mean, the man said it himself, he could literally shoot people and brainiacs like u would still support him
Collaideseven1Yeah sure just because you are impeached doesn't mean you did anything and just because you didn't get impeached doesn't mean it didn't happen. The problem with the system is that if either party holds a majority truth goes out the window for feelings. #Trump2020it seems like u think the argument for impeachment are "if the vote for impeachment passes that will prove he's done these acts". its not and are you honestly that ignorant to everything trump has done? or are u just lying about it because u don't care about his actions, u support him regardless. i mean, the man said it himself, he could literally shoot people and brainiacs like u would still support him
Down frag me. I don't care
Listen hear buddy,
Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this. If you care so much about election fixing I would look at the Dems trying to give ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (who are not and should not be given citizenship without going through proper procedures) the ability to vote.
But, with my support of Trump comes some conflict because I know the dude isn't perfect. But he is trying his best with what is given to him and what the Dems/Media say and do to him.
Go ahead and remove him and put Pence in charge. I'm more for that but I'm not removing someone from office because someone has their feelings hurt by words.
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Merry Christmas
*Edit 1* I support the dude because he IS the President. Doesn't matter if I voted for him or not. I supported Obama but I sure as hell wouldn't have voted for him. Not even once.
[quote=Collaide][quote=seven1]Yeah sure just because you are impeached doesn't mean you did anything and just because you didn't get impeached doesn't mean it didn't happen. The problem with the system is that if either party holds a majority truth goes out the window for feelings. #Trump2020
Down frag me. I don't care[/quote]
it seems like u think the argument for impeachment are "if the vote for impeachment passes that will prove he's done these acts". its not and are you honestly that ignorant to everything trump has done? or are u just lying about it because u don't care about his actions, u support him regardless. i mean, the man said it himself, he could literally shoot people and brainiacs like u would still support him[/quote]
Listen hear buddy,
Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this. If you care so much about election fixing I would look at the Dems trying to give ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (who are not and should not be given citizenship without going through proper procedures) the ability to vote.
But, with my support of Trump comes some conflict because I know the dude isn't perfect. But he is trying his best with what is given to him and what the Dems/Media say and do to him.
Go ahead and remove him and put Pence in charge. I'm more for that but I'm not removing someone from office because someone has their feelings hurt by words.
xXBenShapiroGamingXx Out,
Peace
Merry Christmas
*Edit 1* I support the dude because he IS the President. Doesn't matter if I voted for him or not. I supported Obama but I sure as hell wouldn't have voted for him. Not even once.
Down frag me. I don't care[/quote]
it seems like u think the argument for impeachment are "if the vote for impeachment passes that will prove he's done these acts". its not and are you honestly that ignorant to everything trump has done? or are u just lying about it because u don't care about his actions, u support him regardless. i mean, the man said it himself, he could literally shoot people and brainiacs like u would still support him[/quote]
Listen hear buddy,
Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this. If you care so much about election fixing I would look at the Dems trying to give ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (who are not and should not be given citizenship without going through proper procedures) the ability to vote.
But, with my support of Trump comes some conflict because I know the dude isn't perfect. But he is trying his best with what is given to him and what the Dems/Media say and do to him.
Go ahead and remove him and put Pence in charge. I'm more for that but I'm not removing someone from office because someone has their feelings hurt by words.
xXBenShapiroGamingXx Out,
Peace
Merry Christmas
*Edit 1* I support the dude because he IS the President. Doesn't matter if I voted for him or not. I supported Obama but I sure as hell wouldn't have voted for him. Not even once.
seven1Supporting anyone because they're in charge despite them possibly being a fascist to own the libs.
are you retarded???
[quote=seven1][b]Supporting anyone because they're in charge despite them possibly being a fascist to own the libs.[/b][/quote]
are you retarded???
are you retarded???
dishsoapseven1Supporting anyone because they're in charge despite them possibly being a fascist to own the libs.are you retarded???
But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.
[quote=dishsoap][quote=seven1][b]Supporting anyone because they're in charge despite them possibly being a fascist to own the libs.[/b][/quote]
are you retarded???[/quote]
But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.
are you retarded???[/quote]
But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.
seven1dishsoapBut he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.seven1Supporting anyone because they're in charge despite them possibly being a fascist to own the libs.are you retarded???
are u ignoring that he has called democratic representatives treasonous
[quote=seven1][quote=dishsoap][quote=seven1][b]Supporting anyone because they're in charge despite them possibly being a fascist to own the libs.[/b][/quote]
are you retarded???[/quote]
But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.[/quote]
are u ignoring that he has called democratic representatives treasonous
are you retarded???[/quote]
But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.[/quote]
are u ignoring that he has called democratic representatives treasonous
Spuseven1are u ignoring that he has called democratic representatives treasonousdishsoapBut he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.seven1Supporting anyone because they're in charge despite them possibly being a fascist to own the libs.are you retarded???
They are literally trying to remove the man from office because they don't like him. If that isn't treason against the American Republic I don't know what is
[quote=Spu][quote=seven1][quote=dishsoap][quote=seven1][b]Supporting anyone because they're in charge despite them possibly being a fascist to own the libs.[/b][/quote]
are you retarded???[/quote]
But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.[/quote]
are u ignoring that he has called democratic representatives treasonous[/quote]
They are literally trying to remove the man from office because they don't like him. If that isn't treason against the American Republic I don't know what is
are you retarded???[/quote]
But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.[/quote]
are u ignoring that he has called democratic representatives treasonous[/quote]
They are literally trying to remove the man from office because they don't like him. If that isn't treason against the American Republic I don't know what is
seven1
I think you could benefit from reading wikipedia pages from past impeachments of Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton. There are a lot of legal similarities from those two and trumps.
[quote=seven1] [/quote] I think you could benefit from reading wikipedia pages from past impeachments of Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton. There are a lot of legal similarities from those two and trumps.
seven1They are literally trying to remove the man from office because they don't like him. If that isn't treason against the American Republic I don't know what is
You're creating a poor argument and assuming bad faith. In a previous post, you said:
seven1Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this.
So you previously acknowledged the dems have an argument: Trump was trying to get dirt on the highest polling enemy candidate, even if you didn't think their argument was correct. But now you're saying they 'just don't like him'. Which is... frankly kind of weird. You can boil down any sort of criticisms into "YOU JUST HATE ME, DONT YOU"
>Sir, you robbed a popeyes. I do not like you.
>OH, SO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO JAIL BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE ME???
oh and since when is using a constitutionally provided method of checking the power on the president "treason"?
[quote=seven1]
They are literally trying to remove the man from office because they don't like him. If that isn't treason against the American Republic I don't know what is[/quote]
You're creating a poor argument and assuming bad faith. In a previous post, you said:
[quote=seven1]
Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this.[/quote]
So you previously acknowledged the dems have an argument: Trump was trying to get dirt on the highest polling enemy candidate, even if you didn't think their argument was correct. But now you're saying they 'just don't like him'. Which is... frankly kind of weird. You can boil down any sort of criticisms into "YOU JUST HATE ME, DONT YOU"
>Sir, you robbed a popeyes. I do not like you.
>OH, SO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO JAIL BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE ME???
oh and since when is using a constitutionally provided method of checking the power on the president "[url=https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec3.html]treason[/url]"?
They are literally trying to remove the man from office because they don't like him. If that isn't treason against the American Republic I don't know what is[/quote]
You're creating a poor argument and assuming bad faith. In a previous post, you said:
[quote=seven1]
Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this.[/quote]
So you previously acknowledged the dems have an argument: Trump was trying to get dirt on the highest polling enemy candidate, even if you didn't think their argument was correct. But now you're saying they 'just don't like him'. Which is... frankly kind of weird. You can boil down any sort of criticisms into "YOU JUST HATE ME, DONT YOU"
>Sir, you robbed a popeyes. I do not like you.
>OH, SO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO JAIL BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE ME???
oh and since when is using a constitutionally provided method of checking the power on the president "[url=https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec3.html]treason[/url]"?
CaptainZidgelseven1They are literally trying to remove the man from office because they don't like him. If that isn't treason against the American Republic I don't know what isYou're creating a poor argument and assuming bad faith. In a previous post, you said:seven1Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this.So you previously acknowledged the dems have an argument: Trump was trying to get dirt on the highest polling enemy candidate, even if you didn't think their argument was correct. But now you're saying they 'just don't like him'. Which is... frankly kind of weird. You can boil down any sort of criticisms into "YOU JUST HATE ME, DONT YOU"
>Sir, you robbed a popeyes. I do not like you.
>OH, SO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO JAIL BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE ME???
oh and since when is using a constitutionally provided method of checking the power on the president "treason"?
If you read into the New Ukrainian President, his entire campaign was based off of anti-corruption. When Trump called him to congratulate his victory he asked about specific things to look into for his anti-corruption campaign. It had NOTHING to do with getting dirt on the man. It was to find the truth for the Ukrainians.
Also removing the President from office is not checking his power. It is removing it.
[quote=CaptainZidgel][quote=seven1]
They are literally trying to remove the man from office because they don't like him. If that isn't treason against the American Republic I don't know what is[/quote]
You're creating a poor argument and assuming bad faith. In a previous post, you said:
[quote=seven1]
Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this.[/quote]
So you previously acknowledged the dems have an argument: Trump was trying to get dirt on the highest polling enemy candidate, even if you didn't think their argument was correct. But now you're saying they 'just don't like him'. Which is... frankly kind of weird. You can boil down any sort of criticisms into "YOU JUST HATE ME, DONT YOU"
>Sir, you robbed a popeyes. I do not like you.
>OH, SO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO JAIL BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE ME???
oh and since when is using a constitutionally provided method of checking the power on the president "[url=https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec3.html]treason[/url]"?[/quote]
If you read into the New Ukrainian President, his entire campaign was based off of anti-corruption. When Trump called him to congratulate his victory he asked about specific things to look into for his anti-corruption campaign. It had NOTHING to do with getting dirt on the man. It was to find the truth for the Ukrainians.
Also removing the President from office is not checking his power. It is removing it.
They are literally trying to remove the man from office because they don't like him. If that isn't treason against the American Republic I don't know what is[/quote]
You're creating a poor argument and assuming bad faith. In a previous post, you said:
[quote=seven1]
Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this.[/quote]
So you previously acknowledged the dems have an argument: Trump was trying to get dirt on the highest polling enemy candidate, even if you didn't think their argument was correct. But now you're saying they 'just don't like him'. Which is... frankly kind of weird. You can boil down any sort of criticisms into "YOU JUST HATE ME, DONT YOU"
>Sir, you robbed a popeyes. I do not like you.
>OH, SO YOU WANT ME TO GO TO JAIL BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE ME???
oh and since when is using a constitutionally provided method of checking the power on the president "[url=https://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A3Sec3.html]treason[/url]"?[/quote]
If you read into the New Ukrainian President, his entire campaign was based off of anti-corruption. When Trump called him to congratulate his victory he asked about specific things to look into for his anti-corruption campaign. It had NOTHING to do with getting dirt on the man. It was to find the truth for the Ukrainians.
Also removing the President from office is not checking his power. It is removing it.
seven1If you read into the New Ukrainian President, his entire campaign was based off of anti-corruption. When Trump called him to congratulate his victory he asked about specific things to look into for his anti-corruption campaign. It had NOTHING to do with getting dirt on the man. It was to find the truth for the Ukrainians.
Also removing the President from office is not checking his power. It is removing it.
1. Trump, famously selfless man, helpfully offers to have his personal attorney as well as the United States Attorney General assist Ukrainian corruption investigations that would totally not help Trump at all.
2. Removal is an appropriate escalation of a check on power if you determine the only way to stop a man from abusing power is to remove his power. "Doctor, I'd like you to check on my severe diarrhea but do not remove it, please. That would be unfair and treasonous to the diarrhea."
[quote=seven1]
If you read into the New Ukrainian President, his entire campaign was based off of anti-corruption. [b]When Trump called him to congratulate his victory he asked about specific things to look into for his anti-corruption campaign. It had NOTHING to do with getting dirt on the man.[/b] [b]It was to find the truth for the Ukrainians[/b].
Also removing the President from office is not checking his power. It is removing it.[/quote]
1. Trump, famously selfless man, helpfully offers to have his personal attorney as well as the United States Attorney General assist Ukrainian corruption investigations that would totally not help Trump at all.
2. Removal is an appropriate escalation of a check on power if you determine the only way to stop a man from abusing power is to remove his power. "Doctor, I'd like you to check on my severe diarrhea but do not remove it, please. That would be unfair and treasonous to the diarrhea."
If you read into the New Ukrainian President, his entire campaign was based off of anti-corruption. [b]When Trump called him to congratulate his victory he asked about specific things to look into for his anti-corruption campaign. It had NOTHING to do with getting dirt on the man.[/b] [b]It was to find the truth for the Ukrainians[/b].
Also removing the President from office is not checking his power. It is removing it.[/quote]
1. Trump, famously selfless man, helpfully offers to have his personal attorney as well as the United States Attorney General assist Ukrainian corruption investigations that would totally not help Trump at all.
2. Removal is an appropriate escalation of a check on power if you determine the only way to stop a man from abusing power is to remove his power. "Doctor, I'd like you to check on my severe diarrhea but do not remove it, please. That would be unfair and treasonous to the diarrhea."
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fondly remembering when Bill Clinton got impeached literally just because he lied about getting his dick sucked and what Trump has done in comparison
fondly remembering when Bill Clinton got impeached literally just because he lied about getting his dick sucked and what Trump has done in comparison
It’s just annoying knowing that this man is gunna be written in the textbooks 10 years from now
It’s just annoying knowing that this man is gunna be written in the textbooks 10 years from now
Covoofondly remembering when Bill Clinton got impeached literally just because he lied about getting his dick sucked and what Trump has done in comparison
The Clinton thing wasn't ALL about his getting sucked off by a secretary, it started due to a rape, harassment, and flashing charge from three different women, and the only reason his inappropriate behavior with the secretary mattered was it showed he engaged in sexually deviant behavior and lied about it, supporting the other claims and providing enough evidence to push the issue forward.
Bill Clinton was an (accused) Rapist. Nixon was an (accused) Spy. Trump... Withheld aid in exchange for a favor. Except the aid was delivered, and the favor was never performed. Even the Ukrainian president is opposing the grounds of impeachment. In fact, Trump has provided more support for Ukraine than any other president EVER (He sent them fucking TOMOHAWKS). Also the claim of "obstruction of congress for refusing subpeonas" is horseshit. Appealing to the judiciary regarding congressional subpoenas is his right, is with absolute precedent (every administration that was ever served a congressional subpoena has done so), and it was something that his administration was in the process of doing. So, the Democrats (Every single vote in the house that voted yes for impeachment was a Democrat, not a single Republican voted yes) impeached a president for following the constitution and appealing to the judiciary.
History will not judge this partisan attack on the constitution of the United States kindly.
[quote=Covoo]fondly remembering when Bill Clinton got impeached literally just because he lied about getting his dick sucked and what Trump has done in comparison[/quote]
The Clinton thing wasn't ALL about his getting sucked off by a secretary, it started due to a rape, harassment, and flashing charge from three different women, and the only reason his inappropriate behavior with the secretary mattered was it showed he engaged in sexually deviant behavior and lied about it, supporting the other claims and providing enough evidence to push the issue forward.
Bill Clinton was an (accused) Rapist. Nixon was an (accused) Spy. Trump... Withheld aid in exchange for a favor. Except the aid was delivered, and the favor was never performed. Even the Ukrainian president is opposing the grounds of impeachment. In fact, Trump has provided more support for Ukraine than any other president EVER (He sent them fucking TOMOHAWKS). Also the claim of "obstruction of congress for refusing subpeonas" is horseshit. Appealing to the judiciary regarding congressional subpoenas is his right, is with absolute precedent (every administration that was ever served a congressional subpoena has done so), and it was something that his administration was in the process of doing. So, the Democrats (Every single vote in the house that voted yes for impeachment was a Democrat, not a single Republican voted yes) impeached a president for following the constitution and appealing to the judiciary.
History will not judge this partisan attack on the constitution of the United States kindly.
The Clinton thing wasn't ALL about his getting sucked off by a secretary, it started due to a rape, harassment, and flashing charge from three different women, and the only reason his inappropriate behavior with the secretary mattered was it showed he engaged in sexually deviant behavior and lied about it, supporting the other claims and providing enough evidence to push the issue forward.
Bill Clinton was an (accused) Rapist. Nixon was an (accused) Spy. Trump... Withheld aid in exchange for a favor. Except the aid was delivered, and the favor was never performed. Even the Ukrainian president is opposing the grounds of impeachment. In fact, Trump has provided more support for Ukraine than any other president EVER (He sent them fucking TOMOHAWKS). Also the claim of "obstruction of congress for refusing subpeonas" is horseshit. Appealing to the judiciary regarding congressional subpoenas is his right, is with absolute precedent (every administration that was ever served a congressional subpoena has done so), and it was something that his administration was in the process of doing. So, the Democrats (Every single vote in the house that voted yes for impeachment was a Democrat, not a single Republican voted yes) impeached a president for following the constitution and appealing to the judiciary.
History will not judge this partisan attack on the constitution of the United States kindly.
Americans are funny. You have two parties with nearly equally as corrupt people as the other. Both exposed as scammers and liars. And you have to choose between the two and tell yourself you have a choice. Land of the free.
Americans are funny. You have two parties with nearly equally as corrupt people as the other. Both exposed as scammers and liars. And you have to choose between the two and tell yourself you have a choice. Land of the free.
This shitshow is just a cover for the lithium wars brewing in Bolivia, the high level pedos running the two party system, and the fact that China owns the rights to it all anyway.
Good thing I love eating mandarins, should probably start apologizing in greater earnest to that one chick I ditched for being too clingy lol
If only I could stop being such a lazy shut in like I was this past summer and start learning how to farm potatoes instead of frags.
This shitshow is just a cover for the lithium wars brewing in Bolivia, the high level pedos running the two party system, and the fact that China owns the rights to it all anyway.
Good thing I love eating mandarins, should probably start apologizing in greater earnest to that one chick I ditched for being too clingy lol
If only I could stop being such a lazy shut in like I was this past summer and start learning how to farm potatoes instead of frags.
Good thing I love eating mandarins, should probably start apologizing in greater earnest to that one chick I ditched for being too clingy lol
If only I could stop being such a lazy shut in like I was this past summer and start learning how to farm potatoes instead of frags.
seven1Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this. If you care so much about election fixing I would look at the Dems trying to give ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (who are not and should not be given citizenship without going through proper procedures) the ability to vote.
Trump has committed several things worthy of impeachment, caging kids, taking saudi bribes, now this, failing to help puerto rico and probably more things ive forgotten. if he is so concerned about the corruption of joe bidens family or whatever, how comes he has his PERSONAL lawyer to take care of it? the call isn't the only proof u know, it sounds like thats the only thing u know about. u are aware theres been hearings in the congress right? those shed more light on it.
And yes why not throw the blatantly false and RACIST talking point that illegal migrants are voting
seven1But, with my support of Trump comes some conflict because I know the dude isn't perfect. But he is trying his best with what is given to him and what the Dems/Media say and do to him.
I've heard this type of statementt a lot but what actually is "Trying hard?". Trying hard to invade more countries, find new interesting ways to discriminate against minorities, and take away health care from peopl?e?
terabyteHistory will not judge this partisan attack on the constitution of the United States kindly.
do u really think trumps going down as a hero
seven1If you read into the New Ukrainian President, his entire campaign was based off of anti-corruption. When Trump called him to congratulate his victory he asked about specific things to look into for his anti-corruption campaign. It had NOTHING to do with getting dirt on the man. It was to find the truth for the Ukrainians.
Also removing the President from office is not checking his power. It is removing it.
Wait they removed him from power? i thought he got impeached. do u even know how this process works?
at what point do u think a president should get impeached tho, when they drop a nuke on an american town or what?
seven1But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.
A wise man once said "You are not truly a nazi until you have killed 13 million jews".
Another wise man once said "If you are caught in a criminal act you are not a criminal , since you didn't fully complete it.".
[quote=seven1]Even before this president was in office the Dems were saying he needs to be impeached. They tried to get the public onboard with the Russia crap, but that turned out to backfire on them. Now they are on this. I've read the manuscripts of the call. I personally DO NOT BELIEVE that the purpose of it was to "get the scoop on Biden for the election" like the Dems say. I believe that it was apart of the anti-corruption acts that the new Ukrainian President said he would enact, and Trump just wanted him to look into this. If you care so much about election fixing I would look at the Dems trying to give ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS (who are not and should not be given citizenship without going through proper procedures) the ability to vote.[/quote]
Trump has committed several things worthy of impeachment, caging kids, taking saudi bribes, now this, failing to help puerto rico and probably more things ive forgotten. if he is so concerned about the corruption of joe bidens family or whatever, how comes he has his PERSONAL lawyer to take care of it? the call isn't the only proof u know, it sounds like thats the only thing u know about. u are aware theres been hearings in the congress right? those shed more light on it.
And yes why not throw the blatantly false and RACIST talking point that illegal migrants are voting
[quote=seven1]But, with my support of Trump comes some conflict because I know the dude isn't perfect. But he is trying his best with what is given to him and what the Dems/Media say and do to him.[/quote]
I've heard this type of statementt a lot but what actually is "Trying hard?". Trying hard to invade more countries, find new interesting ways to discriminate against minorities, and take away health care from peopl?e?
[quote=terabyte]History will not judge this partisan attack on the constitution of the United States kindly.[/quote]
do u really think trumps going down as a hero
[quote=seven1]If you read into the New Ukrainian President, his entire campaign was based off of anti-corruption. When Trump called him to congratulate his victory he asked about specific things to look into for his anti-corruption campaign. It had NOTHING to do with getting dirt on the man. It was to find the truth for the Ukrainians.
Also removing the President from office is not checking his power. It is removing it.[/quote]
Wait they removed him from power? i thought he got impeached. do u even know how this process works?
at what point do u think a president should get impeached tho, when they drop a nuke on an american town or what?[quote=seven1]But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.[/quote]
A wise man once said "You are not truly a nazi until you have killed 13 million jews".
Another wise man once said "If you are caught in a criminal act you are not a criminal , since you didn't fully complete it.".
Trump has committed several things worthy of impeachment, caging kids, taking saudi bribes, now this, failing to help puerto rico and probably more things ive forgotten. if he is so concerned about the corruption of joe bidens family or whatever, how comes he has his PERSONAL lawyer to take care of it? the call isn't the only proof u know, it sounds like thats the only thing u know about. u are aware theres been hearings in the congress right? those shed more light on it.
And yes why not throw the blatantly false and RACIST talking point that illegal migrants are voting
[quote=seven1]But, with my support of Trump comes some conflict because I know the dude isn't perfect. But he is trying his best with what is given to him and what the Dems/Media say and do to him.[/quote]
I've heard this type of statementt a lot but what actually is "Trying hard?". Trying hard to invade more countries, find new interesting ways to discriminate against minorities, and take away health care from peopl?e?
[quote=terabyte]History will not judge this partisan attack on the constitution of the United States kindly.[/quote]
do u really think trumps going down as a hero
[quote=seven1]If you read into the New Ukrainian President, his entire campaign was based off of anti-corruption. When Trump called him to congratulate his victory he asked about specific things to look into for his anti-corruption campaign. It had NOTHING to do with getting dirt on the man. It was to find the truth for the Ukrainians.
Also removing the President from office is not checking his power. It is removing it.[/quote]
Wait they removed him from power? i thought he got impeached. do u even know how this process works?
at what point do u think a president should get impeached tho, when they drop a nuke on an american town or what?[quote=seven1]But he isn't a fascist. A real fascist wouldnt let you call them a fascist without then throwing you in jail. He has done nothing that aligns with the NAZI fascism or Italian Fascismo. Both align more with Dems than Repubs.[/quote]
A wise man once said "You are not truly a nazi until you have killed 13 million jews".
Another wise man once said "If you are caught in a criminal act you are not a criminal , since you didn't fully complete it.".
CollaideTrump has committed several things worthy of impeachment, caging kids, taking saudi bribes, now this, failing to help puerto rico and probably more things ive forgotten
He did nothing different in terms of illegal immigration compared to Obama. Plus he isn't the one saying kids. That is ICE.
For the Saudi Arabia thing are you talking about the lobbyists who stayed at the hotel? Because I really don't know what you mean by bribes. When him and the Saudi government talked they payed the Gov Not Trump for what they did to help stabilize the area (don't really know too much about it).
As for the whole Puerto Rico thing, I don't agree with it all myself but I don't know if it is an Impeachable thing in itself.
CollaideI've heard this type of statementt a lot but what actually is "Trying hard?". Trying hard to invade more countries, find new interesting ways to discriminate against minorities, and take away health care from peopl?e?
Trying to keep America safe. How is he discriminating against minorities? His economic policies have literally been helping minorities better than any Dem head ever done in recent years.
Taking Healthcare away? Now don't be foolish. He's taking public healthcare away but not private health care. Public health care is making money bleed from tax payer pockets. That's why he's trying to get rid of it.
CollaideWait they removed him from power? i thought he got impeached. do u even know how this process works?
at what point do u think a president should get impeached tho, when they drop a nuke on an american town or what?
I was talking about how the Dems want him removed from power. Impeachment really doesn't do anything if we are being honest. It only opens up the possibility of being removed if the Senate votes on it. Either that or acquittal.
He should be impeached when he actually does an Impeachable offense.
See that's the thing. No matter what I say you will never believe that what he did is not Impeachable. The same goes for you. No matter what you say I won't believe it is Impeachable. We just go around in circles.
CollaideAnd yes why not throw the blatantly false and RACIST talking point that illegal migrants are voting
Some Dems are for this, which is wrong. I will say I was wrong to say that the Dems in general are trying this. But how is it racist to say that Illegal Immigrants should not be given the power to vote in elections? There are proper ways to get into the country and then be allowed to vote. I'm for that. Not giving citizenship to every single person that crosses that border.
[quote=Collaide]
Trump has committed several things worthy of impeachment, caging kids, taking saudi bribes, now this, failing to help puerto rico and probably more things ive forgotten [/quote]
He did nothing different in terms of illegal immigration compared to Obama. Plus he isn't the one saying kids. That is ICE.
For the Saudi Arabia thing are you talking about the lobbyists who stayed at the hotel? Because I really don't know what you mean by bribes. When him and the Saudi government talked they payed the Gov Not Trump for what they did to help stabilize the area (don't really know too much about it).
As for the whole Puerto Rico thing, I don't agree with it all myself but I don't know if it is an Impeachable thing in itself.
[quote=Collaide]
I've heard this type of statementt a lot but what actually is "Trying hard?". Trying hard to invade more countries, find new interesting ways to discriminate against minorities, and take away health care from peopl?e?
[/quote]
Trying to keep America safe. How is he discriminating against minorities? His economic policies have literally been helping minorities better than any Dem head ever done in recent years.
Taking Healthcare away? Now don't be foolish. He's taking public healthcare away but not private health care. Public health care is making money bleed from tax payer pockets. That's why he's trying to get rid of it.
[quote=Collaide]
Wait they removed him from power? i thought he got impeached. do u even know how this process works?
at what point do u think a president should get impeached tho, when they drop a nuke on an american town or what?
[/quote]
I was talking about how the Dems want him removed from power. Impeachment really doesn't do anything if we are being honest. It only opens up the possibility of being removed if the Senate votes on it. Either that or acquittal.
He should be impeached when he actually does an Impeachable offense.
See that's the thing. No matter what I say you will never believe that what he did is not Impeachable. The same goes for you. No matter what you say I won't believe it is Impeachable. We just go around in circles.
[quote=Collaide]
And yes why not throw the blatantly false and RACIST talking point that illegal migrants are voting
[/quote]
Some Dems are for this, which is wrong. I will say I was wrong to say that the Dems in general are trying this. But how is it racist to say that Illegal Immigrants should not be given the power to vote in elections? There are proper ways to get into the country and then be allowed to vote. I'm for that. Not giving citizenship to every single person that crosses that border.
Trump has committed several things worthy of impeachment, caging kids, taking saudi bribes, now this, failing to help puerto rico and probably more things ive forgotten [/quote]
He did nothing different in terms of illegal immigration compared to Obama. Plus he isn't the one saying kids. That is ICE.
For the Saudi Arabia thing are you talking about the lobbyists who stayed at the hotel? Because I really don't know what you mean by bribes. When him and the Saudi government talked they payed the Gov Not Trump for what they did to help stabilize the area (don't really know too much about it).
As for the whole Puerto Rico thing, I don't agree with it all myself but I don't know if it is an Impeachable thing in itself.
[quote=Collaide]
I've heard this type of statementt a lot but what actually is "Trying hard?". Trying hard to invade more countries, find new interesting ways to discriminate against minorities, and take away health care from peopl?e?
[/quote]
Trying to keep America safe. How is he discriminating against minorities? His economic policies have literally been helping minorities better than any Dem head ever done in recent years.
Taking Healthcare away? Now don't be foolish. He's taking public healthcare away but not private health care. Public health care is making money bleed from tax payer pockets. That's why he's trying to get rid of it.
[quote=Collaide]
Wait they removed him from power? i thought he got impeached. do u even know how this process works?
at what point do u think a president should get impeached tho, when they drop a nuke on an american town or what?
[/quote]
I was talking about how the Dems want him removed from power. Impeachment really doesn't do anything if we are being honest. It only opens up the possibility of being removed if the Senate votes on it. Either that or acquittal.
He should be impeached when he actually does an Impeachable offense.
See that's the thing. No matter what I say you will never believe that what he did is not Impeachable. The same goes for you. No matter what you say I won't believe it is Impeachable. We just go around in circles.
[quote=Collaide]
And yes why not throw the blatantly false and RACIST talking point that illegal migrants are voting
[/quote]
Some Dems are for this, which is wrong. I will say I was wrong to say that the Dems in general are trying this. But how is it racist to say that Illegal Immigrants should not be given the power to vote in elections? There are proper ways to get into the country and then be allowed to vote. I'm for that. Not giving citizenship to every single person that crosses that border.
Doom1Americans are funny. You have two parties with nearly equally as corrupt people as the other. Both exposed as scammers and liars. And you have to choose between the two and tell yourself you have a choice. Land of the free.
Does't matter who wins the jews control everything.
[quote=Doom1]Americans are funny. You have two parties with nearly equally as corrupt people as the other. Both exposed as scammers and liars. And you have to choose between the two and tell yourself you have a choice. Land of the free.[/quote]
Does't matter who wins the jews control everything.
Does't matter who wins the jews control everything.
DerfelDoom1Americans are funny. You have two parties with nearly equally as corrupt people as the other. Both exposed as scammers and liars. And you have to choose between the two and tell yourself you have a choice. Land of the free.
Does't matter who wins the jews control everything.
Was schlagen Sie dann mit den Juden vor?
[quote=Derfel][quote=Doom1]Americans are funny. You have two parties with nearly equally as corrupt people as the other. Both exposed as scammers and liars. And you have to choose between the two and tell yourself you have a choice. Land of the free.[/quote]
Does't matter who wins the jews control everything.[/quote]
Was schlagen Sie dann mit den Juden vor?
Does't matter who wins the jews control everything.[/quote]
Was schlagen Sie dann mit den Juden vor?
At the level of power these guys have, the law is only ever applied selectively. Everyone knows Donald Trump himself tried to get Epstein indicted for child prostitution in the 90s. Nothing happened because few wanted to oppose Epstein, and because other, more powerful people had an interest in protecting him. So the question I can't shake is "why this billionaire, and why now?"
I'm willing to buy that Trump did impeachable things, and I'm willing to buy that the Democrats are jumping on this train in order to further their careers, but neither of these things really explain the intensity of opposition this guy has received from the political establishment since *before* he ever set foot in the White House. The Clinton comparison is wrong. Donald Trump is being impeached because he is a nationalist who is too rich to be bought off. The positions he's taken on immigration, media, war, and trade, whether you agree with them or not, are all in direct opposition to the interests of the financial and industrial powers that be. Our rulers are attempting to veto the "will of the people" as expressed in 2016.
And, as depressed as it makes me to say it, supporting the rule of law as a weapon for people far more cruel and corrupt than Trump is supporting no rule of law at all. If he's guilty, it's just a shame he gave his opponents the opening.
At the level of power these guys have, the law is only ever applied selectively. Everyone knows Donald Trump himself tried to get Epstein indicted for child prostitution in the 90s. Nothing happened because few wanted to oppose Epstein, and because other, more powerful people had an interest in protecting him. So the question I can't shake is "why this billionaire, and why now?"
I'm willing to buy that Trump did impeachable things, and I'm willing to buy that the Democrats are jumping on this train in order to further their careers, but neither of these things really explain the intensity of opposition this guy has received from the political establishment since *before* he ever set foot in the White House. The Clinton comparison is wrong. Donald Trump is being impeached because he is a nationalist who is too rich to be bought off. The positions he's taken on immigration, media, war, and trade, whether you agree with them or not, are all in direct opposition to the interests of the financial and industrial powers that be. Our rulers are attempting to veto the "will of the people" as expressed in 2016.
And, as depressed as it makes me to say it, supporting the rule of law as a weapon for people far more cruel and corrupt than Trump is supporting no rule of law at all. If he's guilty, it's just a shame he gave his opponents the opening.
I'm willing to buy that Trump did impeachable things, and I'm willing to buy that the Democrats are jumping on this train in order to further their careers, but neither of these things really explain the intensity of opposition this guy has received from the political establishment since *before* he ever set foot in the White House. The Clinton comparison is wrong. Donald Trump is being impeached because he is a nationalist who is too rich to be bought off. The positions he's taken on immigration, media, war, and trade, whether you agree with them or not, are all in direct opposition to the interests of the financial and industrial powers that be. Our rulers are attempting to veto the "will of the people" as expressed in 2016.
And, as depressed as it makes me to say it, supporting the rule of law as a weapon for people far more cruel and corrupt than Trump is supporting no rule of law at all. If he's guilty, it's just a shame he gave his opponents the opening.
KikiThe positions he's taken on immigration, media, war, and trade, whether you agree with them or not, are all in direct opposition to the interests of the financial and industrial powers that be.
Yeah, him continuing abusive immigration control, ramping up the drone strikes, continuing the Afghanistan war of Bush and Obama are opposed to the financial and industrial powers that be. Sure buddy. Oh, and I don't think the media really minds his attacks.
Our rulers are attempting to veto the "will of the people" as expressed in 2016.
A minority of voters voted for Trump in 2016. The congress is more or less democratically elected (well, not the Senate) so their actions can be said to at least represent some portion of the people's wills. Oh, and if Trump is removed his vice president becomes president, which doesn't really sound like it's vetoing an election, does it?
[quote=Kiki]The positions he's taken on immigration, media, war, and trade, whether you agree with them or not, are all in direct opposition to the interests of the financial and industrial powers that be.[/quote]
Yeah, him continuing abusive immigration control, ramping up the drone strikes, continuing the Afghanistan war of Bush and Obama are opposed to the financial and industrial powers that be. Sure buddy. Oh, and I don't think the [url=https://www.aol.com/article/2016/05/04/trump-may-be-bad-for-america-but-hes-great-for-cnn/21370270/]media [/url]really minds his attacks.
[quote]Our rulers are attempting to veto the "will of the people" as expressed in 2016.[/quote]
A [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election]minority of voters [/url]voted for Trump in 2016. The congress is more or less democratically elected (well, not the Senate) so their actions can be said to at least represent some portion of the people's wills. Oh, and if Trump is removed his vice president becomes president, which doesn't really sound like it's vetoing an election, does it?
Yeah, him continuing abusive immigration control, ramping up the drone strikes, continuing the Afghanistan war of Bush and Obama are opposed to the financial and industrial powers that be. Sure buddy. Oh, and I don't think the [url=https://www.aol.com/article/2016/05/04/trump-may-be-bad-for-america-but-hes-great-for-cnn/21370270/]media [/url]really minds his attacks.
[quote]Our rulers are attempting to veto the "will of the people" as expressed in 2016.[/quote]
A [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election]minority of voters [/url]voted for Trump in 2016. The congress is more or less democratically elected (well, not the Senate) so their actions can be said to at least represent some portion of the people's wills. Oh, and if Trump is removed his vice president becomes president, which doesn't really sound like it's vetoing an election, does it?
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