http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11455-an-explanation

If it is so clearly not broken can you please refute my points made.

When the EQ was split the escape plan was allowed as a one-time only exception to the rule that items introduced during the season would be allowed. The quick fix had massive changes (all buffs) and was not banned despite there being precedent for the banning of weapons that received large buffs mid season. Massive weapon nerfs being equated to massive weapon buffs in terms of "anything that gets changed should be banned (no one is saying this)" is fucking stupid and I know you're smart enough that I don't have to spell that out to you.

Now because I feel like actually making a serious post again because the population of this forum has completely ignored my one-time attempt to not be an asshole (http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/11455-an-explanation), I'm going to go ahead and say that banning the weapon is totally fine, should have been done earlier, and anyone getting mad over it is dumb. If you'll notice in that explanation thread, we have someone I've never heard of saying that a ugc silver highlander engineer's opinion is as valuable as anyone else's here (and why I brought up the founding father's stance on democracy). This is objectively wrong and the opinion of either a sophist or a moron. If you were to say that Roger Federer's opinion on a rule change in tennis was as valuable as say Joey "Killing in the Name" Oksenhendler, you would probably be laughed out of any serious discussion about tennis. This is important because despite the massive UGC poster count here that thinks "the meta is stale", it is important to filter out uninformed opinions when making game defining decisions and killing's choice clearly reverberates with the point of view that most players and viewers assumed when actually having to watch the QF being used and not just theory-crafting after LAN for the forum shitstorm.

Now my point here is that no one with a respectable opinion has posted a response to my explanation in defense of the quick fix. Nobody here has explained how it has made the game faster, how it has made it better, or how its inclusion (the only differing factor between the previous lan and this) made LAN at all enjoyable to play or watch. Despite in previous years commanding the lion's share of the LAN viewers, we didn't have a fourth of what CSGO had. The players themselves at the LAN (if you read chat) clearly weren't all that excited either and the casters, stream chat, and viewer count all point to the fact that it was pretty shitty to watch.

I find it ironic that so many people tout the conch play as indicative that the quick fix is not over-powered despite the fact that it was a single 7 second play and then in the same breath decry the part of the community that they accuse of having a knee-jerk reaction to the quick fix because of one gullywash stalemate. Nevermind that there are BLUE NAMES saying that lan was shitty to watch even outside of that match, someone else with a BLUE NAME has said something that caters to my pre-judgements better so I'll ignore that other raff! I mean we have people like the illustrious r4pture here who apparently think that no one has ever complained about gullywash previous to this and that it is clearly indicative that everyone disagreeing with him is just bandwagoning on what slin said.

Healbot's question to enigma should be illuminating for most people, in that enigma is not trying to rally to unban the weapon, but simply state that there was an over-reaction and the way killing went about banning it was not the very best (fair point).

Highest I noticed view count ever hitting on esea orange stream was low 3k during upper bracket finals.

CSGO had 20k viewers. MUGEN had 6k.

It's actually not racist it at all, it's a fact that in 18th century america white, land-owning males were the only ones who were educated. If you think that's racist then you're digging pretty deep.

Why am I arguing about this with you anyway? My point was entirely about uneducated people participating in meaningful discussion and somehow you got that to be racist despite it being factually accurate.

Are there seriously people who don't understand that

white, land-owning males were the only people that could afford education in the 18th century

Or are you dumb enough to think that they were genuinely interested in true democracy? This is like middle school history seriously.

I'd like to observe for you, Mr. Man With No Name, that people like you are the reason the founding fathers only wanted white, land-owning males to vote.

Start up a saltybet-esque stream that allows players to bet on MGE matches.

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I tried to write an objective explanation of how the QF was bad for the game after realizing that people were writing off the hate as simply bandwagoning on slin (forming a counter-bandwagon bandwagon) and had a ugc silver HL engy say I was wrong because the QF uber was counter-able by laying down a sticky carpet in the middle of a fight and waiting for a medic to walk over it. Nevermind that this guy had never played sixes with anyone that wasn't sub-open quality, (and that his postulation was not only wrong but irrelevant to my argument) if I want to wear a banner of even-handedness I have to entertain even the most inept opinions possible.

I didn't even argue that the uber was broken as fuck, almost all of my observations were that outside of uber it's far better than any other medigun. Being tolerant and open to communication at no point actually requires you to entertain uneducated points that are objectively wrong or unrelated.

Having killing make a decision by throwing darts at a rotating board is preferable to patting the UGC children on the head and pretending that their steel highlander experience gives them serious input on how 6s functions.

I am totally fine with killing deciding to ban the quick fix unilaterally

If any of this fucking shitstorm has taught us anything it's that 95% of this community is too fucking stupid to form their own opinions and can't even hold a serious discussion. TLR completely reversed his position on the quick fix despite not even playing this season and got +fragged both times.

People in this community will +frag anything a blue name says, and the fact that people still parrot "the meta is stale, robin is right" line is a joke. Blaming the gullywash (still a shit map) match for the QF is reasonable, but the rest of LAN was pretty shit to watch as well.

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