Well that can't be an option for them, a service like Saloon is built on trust. As is, I'm not betting until this is resolved, and I recommend others consider doing the same. If people have to factor in the concern that they might never get their items back win or lose, the integrity of the system is undermined.

But what about the winnings for those who never recieved a payout option. Can't even get what I put up for a bet back...

Any update on this?

Same for me, although I only won ~7 refined.

It'll be me casting for Buick.

Can someone enlighten me what the "black" hammer/gavel icon on the team logo means? I know red means that team you bet on lost, I know green means the team you bet on won. What does black mean? I bet on TLR earlier for ~6 refined payback and I do not have a collect winnings button and I noticed the icon is black. Help?

Hmm, $9.99 to avoid doing what I can do by closing my eyes, or $9.99 to support 2 streamers on Twitch? Tough one.

"Luke, you are my father" - Kylo Ren

imagine?

Seems to me that the thinking was to recapture the novice vs. master dynamic from the original films with Luke vs. Vader. It does seem early here, but we don't know the context; he could pick up that saber from a fallen jedi he was just shadowing and feign to make a stand before being saved by something.

I think they are trying to alleviate the audience of the "magic jedi sword trick ninja" overload we saw in each of the prequels by returning the force to myth, and jedi's to legend. Not having the Solo twins does seem odd though. Maybe in later movies? Regardless, I am excited.

Of course the window for sniping is so small in matched competitive play, it would take a very long time to collect frags of this caliber, not merely because it is harder to do so against better teams, but because the opportunity to enact this level skill simply isn't there when your team needs a 2nd scout/2nd soldier. Any vid that wants to highlight sniping will run into this problem. It's why the -AA- vid took ages for Jh to make. And that was even when the map pool catered more to sniping and players then didn't respect snipers as they do today.

The footage is great, the skill is great, the editing is great, and that is good enough for me. 10/10

Indeed. But time will tell. If something like that can't be overcome then OW has a problem, but i'd imagine that is one of the things Blizzard is looking for when they launch beta.

The first look was from multi-game streamers and hardly a display of skill. The true test will be seeing what weighs more important: character ability or player skill, once talented FPS players get a hold of it. A balance between class ability and player skill is good. A tilt in skill's favor is more good. A tilt in hero ability is less good, but will still be interesting seeing how teams use the heroes like chess pieces.

That is the key no matter where the brunt of a heroes effectiveness lies. It really does seem that heroes can be swapped fluidly and repeatedly to force the meta. This is in complete contrast to TF2 and is a GOOD thing. Even when they were all playing the same hero, there didn't appear to be a crippling effect on the round, in fact it seemed to hurt the team by having a less dynamic makeup. If this equates to no class limits and a meta in which you really have unlimted freedom to create team builds, you will have infinite possibilities for team success when factoring in player skill.

I'm sure certain builds will end up being most powerful, but at least for now it seems there is always another hero you COULD play to throw a wrench that the opposing team's build. That is fantastic, and should player skill be as or near important to the game as in the major compeititve FPS titles, Overwatch will likely appeal to us all.

I was PogChamping hard during that.

really fantastic

Not a bad idea, but I wonder if it would look like the team on the right center of the map timer was out on an island, being that our current HUD stacks team tournament elements above eachother on the left side. From what I've seen, centered spec huds sort of "declare" sides for either team upon being centered, and that is not the case with what we currently use.