The desire to win and respect for your opponents breeds good competition. Maybe some people in this community need a tangible incentive to want to win but I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of players who don't already have multiple series championships under their belt simply care more about proving themselves.

Any new league will only be taken as legitimately as we make it. If we have loads of teams offclassing it kills competition and breeds even more foolishness because winning the league (or division) no longer proves that you are the best.

Also plat, you seem to say that esea providing a lan directly drives the top NA team's determination to win, however you reference the summer of 2012 as the peak of american competition. Why would you say competition decreased after that? We still have had esea lan, and we knew a team would be going to i49. Especially knowing that most likely only the s13 winners would go to i49, shouldn't the push to win that season have been even higher? The fact that it wasn't is evidence that the desire for players to prove themselves VASTLY outweighs and tangible gains we get from winning. After i46 you already had your international championship title, so that raw desire to prove dominance was diminished.

However, the majority of us still have that desire, and this is what drives us to play this game seriously.

If that's your new definition of fun then there are hundreds of public servers that would be glad to have you fellas

http://www.enixorigin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Bravely-Default-Flying-Fairy1.jpg

If anybody posting here is actually affiliated with CEVO, UGC, or etf2l can you guys please identify yourselves and your relationship to the organizations? It'll help us know if these leagues are actually looking to put in work to expand and accommodate a huge influx of higher level players that expect fair division splits or if it's all just nobody's spouting hearsay.

With the exception of marxist's relationship to ugc, i have no clue if anybody else has any official connections at this point.

The same can be said for top main teams being competitive with lower invite teams, and top open teams being competitive with lower IM teams. There is never a large skill gap between the top and bottom of neighboring divisions.

Gonna be a big name soon. Unlike most open players he actually understands that teamwork and communication are important.

There is no tf2 police.

The only authority over esea is esea. If they don't ban him then he's free to play and that's that. Fog decides if he can play on his servers and Enigma decides if he can post on tf.tv. Outside of that, he just needs to find five people willing to play with a guy who hacked in CS:GO. Some people see this as something that destroys his credibility in tf2 and some people don't think it's a big deal at all. The bottom line is, unless you're one of the five other people he's trying to be on a team with, or hold power with esea, then your opinion doesn't really affect much.

Every time I open this thread and see a post about who got the most +frags ever instead of something about insom i am thoroughly fucking disappointed.

Radium's an absolute bro. Knows options for cooking eggs.

It's ok Mike, I'll be right there with you after I listen to all the shit I did wrong. Thanks in advance.

My scout pov of our scrim vs your team tonight on gully.
http://www.mediafire.com/?6femzh4gzbatw6a

It would be amazing to get your insight, having been on the other team. The demo starts a little after the first midfight because i forgot i had removed prec for esea.

Get those pictures uploaded

http://i.imgur.com/Rseh54u.jpg

me and Pun in the convention center.

I'd love to join you guys but I won't be rolling in till around 3. If you guys are meeting south of philly i can be there a bit earlier.

I'm on the edge of my seat.

I have room in my car leaving from College Park if it helps. Not sure if you're still on the eastern shore or not.