I host west coast pugs every night at 12est/9 PST. We have people who come and willingly play with 80 ping. Currently it's probably the most active pug group that is an open group. You could also try and get into quindali pugs but I you need to know someone to get in.

hamaham: they are so free

CPG19 was the best overall LAN but I played the best and had the best team at Rewind 2

How about you just play for the team you are on rn as you def aren't the best player on that team and could probably do well learning and working with them. That assessment is purely made based on scrims I've had against your team.

Hi, I am trying to host west coast pugs.

This is not restricted to west coast gamers but the pugs will be run on a LA mumble and server. If you are a west coast player and want to play tf2 without 90-60 ping then this is the group for you.

Join here: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/WestCoastSanctuaryPugs

Im hoping to get regular pugs going but in order to do that I need enough members to be able to have players to keep pugs alive.

Only once, this happens all the time though with lots of people. Funny how reero donovin and dishsoap are posting in this thread considering all of them are in the ether mumble circlejerk. I'm pretty sure everyone kinda knows all of this already though. I'm gonna stop posting so we can get real stream highlights and not me ranting about tftv highschool.

Don't forget if a cirlejerk doesn't like you, thats A big source of downfrags. You could have a sick clip but if people don't like to see you doing well you could just as well have 30 downfrags. This is why noone should really care about downfrags, because this is literally on par with a highschool student government election.

Except for when it is, because the people who are cool self clip all the time and get upfrags.

Drshdwpuppet used to say this all the time in newbiemixes. If you are over the age of 18 and cant afford to pay for your own esea then you shouldnt be committing as many hours as you do to tf2 each week because you should have way bigger problems to solve with your life with the time you would be spending on esea

hp was on my team at copenhagen. He is definitely mid-high IM capable. On top of being sick at the game hes a cool dude as well. Highly recommend.

Lucrative is the only person who hosts new map pugs every week and invites all players to join providing good feedback to mapmakers. Many of those map makers actually come in and watch the pugs as they happen. he posts publicly on tftv asking people to join and playtest the pugs. after every map he asks the entire pug if anyone has feedback and then when he has a batch of solid maps he sends out a poll and has people vote on which ones they think are most competitive ready before presenting them to league admins and discussing what they should do with them going forward. i dont understand how this is someone with the loudest voice speaking... It looks to me like there are plenty of chances for the community to be taking part in map discussion but unfortunately people arent taking advantage of whats being provided.

I also think that you are trying to get people who never take part in map testing, who never put time in to do solid long term testing of weapons, to show up and voice their opinion completely ignorant of the other side. its one thing for someone to show up to the map pugs do the weapons testing, show up to the discussion and then voice an opinion that is against b4nny or luc or whoever else is there, its another to do nothing and expect to be invited to the discussion. people who played the non restriction sixes seriously all season long are probably way more informed on whats broken having tried it multiple times ingame than others who used it for a couple pugs one week during testing on pugchamp. If I remember correctly propoganda was played by multiple invite teams in a new map cup and got feedback, then improved on that feedback and was then allowed into esea. Before that it was played in quindali pugs for a while and given tons of feedback, going through multiple versions.

except legit is a pocket main.

10 dollars is 10 dollars

ban doughy

The system doesn't make it so new maps don't get played. The players ban those maps or try and coordinate bans with other teams and that's why the maps don't get played. Blaming the system because you and the other team decide to ban everything but process snake and gully isn't the systems fault.

If you want a successful system a few things could be improved, but adding more maps while keeping a 3 ban limit would inevitably get more maps played. Alternatively you could just not coordinate every ban to try and play the same 3 maps. The issue with what you are saying is that there are only 8 weeks, meaning that you have to remove maps to add new maps. Knowing this community people aren't going to remove a map from play for a new map that hasn't been played for 10 years.